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Kaaya/Heaps

It's going to be Heaps. Duke somewhat alluded to it in a subtle manner when he was comparing the two. Not necessarily a bad thing. I will say that if Heaps ***** the bed, then I wouldn't mind Kaaya getting out there and getting real game reps. It will help tremendously going into next year.
 
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If it's even or close, start Heaps, bring in Kaaya if he struggles and in garbage time. It will be hard for Williams to play his way back on the field.
 
If a 5th year senior cant blow away a freshman. then something is wrong with the senior. Golden as said if its dead even then he goes with experience. Coley has said its base off a point system that we dont know everything it consist of. Golden also just stated the players will choose the QB so its all over the place. Player talk way more about Kayaa then heaps from interviews but the media could be asking Kayaa specific questions so that's still an unknown.

I believe Golden is going to go with experience even if Coley wants to take a chance on Kayaa. Kayaa should start. but i think Golden wants Heaps to start due the fact that he knows its his last chance to make into the NFL and have a life for his family.
 
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850Cane said:
If a 5th year senior cant blow away a freshman. then something is wrong with the senior. Golden as said if its dead even then he goes with experience. Coley has said its base off a point system that we dont know everything it consist of. Golden also just stated the players will choose the QB so its all over the place. Player talk way more about Kayaa then heaps from interviews but the media could be asking Kayaa specific questions so that's still an unknown.

I believe Golden is going to go with experience even if Coley wants to take a chance on Kayaa. Kayaa should start. but i think Golden wants Heaps to start due the fact that he knows its his last chance to make into the NFL and have a life for his family.
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It has to factor in all the time Golden and Coley spent recruiting Kaaya and his family. This staff has no ties or loyalty to Jake Heaps. Both parties are using eachother. Kaaya was recruited and bonds were formed, there's just no way to me that the people that think the deck is stacked in Heaps' favor are correct. If Heaps beats him out, then he won the job. It's not just because he was a senior.
 
The point system has to do with a matrix, not actual points scored on a football field. I am sure that is involved, but I believe he mentioned several things go into the point system.
 
I'm still thinking it'll probably be Heaps but I'm personally of the mindset that experience should be the tiebreaker- in Kaaya's favor. If you're a 12th year senior, 35 years old and married with 3 kids as Heaps is then you should blow away a kid that has only legally been able to operate a motor vehicle for 2 years.

That aside, I cannot think of anything more beautiful than a Kaaya induced meltdown on the Lou-vuhhhl sideline. Petrino having to be restrained from his DC and a drunk Papa John seen trying to chase down their AD as their clown fans pour out of Garlic Sauce Stadium.
 
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Yup, more affirmations based on the incomplete and the unknown. On that same foundation of empirical knowledge I will declare Isaac Hoza to be our starting QB in Louisville! But, I don't know what I don't know.

Whoever starts I wish him the best, whoever watches from the sideline I hope comes in to mop up in the fourth quarter with the Canes holding an insurmountable lead. And, I hope the position is not relinquished through injury but by more excellent performance.
 
That also left room for Kaaya to lose points as well that could have hurt him. But I say go with Kaaya it sends future prospects the right msg in terms of if you're better then you will play putting all politics aside. It makes all the sense to go with him he has an insurance policy in Heaps if he struggles but when you think about who ran the offense last year how could you be worried about this young man not at the minimum matching a 9-4 record. Time to build on to this future we have and if he doesn't pan out oh well we have more talent coming in but I have faith that this kid will be okay back there.
 
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I think he STARTS Heaps, but if there is any struggle at all, he pulls him for Kaaya. One thing is certain, he has an eye on the future, not just today. It's why he let the D take a beating to implement the D he wants. He believes the D will be better when the guys are older, more experienced, and more talent arrives. Of course, not everyone shares that view, but not everyone is making the decisions. For this reason, I wouldn't be surprised if he starts Kaaya knowing he is the future. He knew Olsen wasn't, but he has to know Kaaya is. He also knows Jake Allison is coming in a couple years, so there's no need in redshirting Kaaya.

One thing to consider is this. How did Heaps actually do when he played in hostile environments? If memory serves me correctly, it wasn't so good. So maybe, just maybe, Heaps is just an insurance policy for Kaaya. Better than an injured Williams who can't play, and better than Olsen who won't work.
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Against top 25 teams

2010

#17 FSU 15-31 114 yds 1-0
#11 Nevada 24-45 229 yds 0-0
#28 SDSU 15-22 126 yds 0-1
#2 TCU 14-30 91 yds 0-2
#26 Utah 22-37 228 yds 1-1

2011

#30 Texas 22-38 192 yds 1-2

2013

#6 Oklahoma 5-13 16 yds 1-0
#13 Baylor 7-19 85 yds 1-0

Though the stats are not pretty, he's got a ton of experience and he didn't have nearly the ****nol of weapons as he's got now.....
I believe you start with the experienced player and if it's not working bring in Kaaya
 
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It seems that neither Heaps nor Kaaya have really made a lasting impression.....


Matt Porter Posted: 11:47 am Friday, August 22nd, 2014

Should be OK at QB. There will be ups and downs, because right now, neither Brad Kaaya nor Jake Heaps screams “Heisman contender.” But it could be a lot worse. A true freshman, and a fifth-year grad student on his third program, could have come in and completely bombed. That wasn’t the case. Both Heaps and Kaaya showed the ability to run the offense and make the needed throws, though neither has the cannon Stephen Morris had. But with the array of weapons around them – one of the nation’s best tailbacks and a deep fleet of receivers – they will need to play smart and in control. If they can’t, Ryan Williams hopes to return by October. The expectation is that UM’s quarterback, whoever it is, will be average. Which, again, might just be good enough.
 
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sitzee said:
ThomasM said:
I think he STARTS Heaps, but if there is any struggle at all, he pulls him for Kaaya. One thing is certain, he has an eye on the future, not just today. It's why he let the D take a beating to implement the D he wants. He believes the D will be better when the guys are older, more experienced, and more talent arrives. Of course, not everyone shares that view, but not everyone is making the decisions. For this reason, I wouldn't be surprised if he starts Kaaya knowing he is the future. He knew Olsen wasn't, but he has to know Kaaya is. He also knows Jake Allison is coming in a couple years, so there's no need in redshirting Kaaya.

One thing to consider is this. How did Heaps actually do when he played in hostile environments? If memory serves me correctly, it wasn't so good. So maybe, just maybe, Heaps is just an insurance policy for Kaaya. Better than an injured Williams who can't play, and better than Olsen who won't work.
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Against top 25 teams

2010

#17 FSU 15-31 114 yds 1-0
#11 Nevada 24-45 229 yds 0-0
#28 SDSU 15-22 126 yds 0-1
#2 TCU 14-30 91 yds 0-2
#26 Utah 22-37 228 yds 1-1

2011

#30 Texas 22-38 192 yds 1-2

2013

#6 Oklahoma 5-13 16 yds 1-0
#13 Baylor 7-19 85 yds 1-0

Though the stats are not pretty, he's got a ton of experience and he didn't have nearly the ****nol of weapons as he's got now.....
I believe you start with the experienced player and if it's not working bring in Kaaya
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Some quick math from those 8 games...

124-235 (52.7 completion percentage)
1,081 yards
5 touchdowns
6 interceptions

Saying the stats aren't pretty from that sample size is an understatement, but we already knew his numbers and performance were awful during his prior stints at BYU/Kansas. Experience shouldn't be viewed as some overwhelmingly deciding factor in Heaps' favor when that experience was disastrous.
 
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The reference to snicker's "cannon" is completely irrelevant. It's not about how long a QB can throw, it's about how long he can keep the sticks moving and then scoring.
 
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