2024 Jeremiah Smith 2.0 ,,, Signs with Taint

[Caneofcanes]

So he said everything anybody with a clue has been telling you for months.

The kid has top of round 1 talent and he’s not willing to jeopardize it playing in a trash scheme. Show me you can take my god given ability and develop it into a round 1 pick and I’ll consider your school. Go to 7 overtimes to beat Virginia 5-3 again, and you can kick rocks.

Not sure how anyone can be upset with this approach. If it was my kid, he’d go to Miami or he’d be disowned. But I’m a psychotic Miami fan. These people aren’t. It’s ok.

I hear you and very valid points, but whats the difference between. What Howard was selling? To what Mario is selling? Meaning that class took a chance on Howard and created history. Now we need these guys to take that same chance on Mario. I’m not saying blindly go in because it’s the home team. I’m saying believe in the message that Mario can do what Howard, Jimmy, Dennis Butch/Coker did.

 

[pacusmc]

Well said. The transformation will happen. They are putting too much resources and attention to every aspect of the program. Only question is when will it happen.

It will happen sooner than later. Preparation and teamwork make sht happen. The only thing left is the continued influx of talent.

 

[Cane&Abel]

“Be the change you want to see”… that’s all good night !

 

[CT Cane 44]

I mean if Dawson calls plays at a high level and we seem to be building an elite Oline, we have a great young group of RBs and we are loaded at TE, do we really need a bunch of 5 star receivers running around the field to win games? Sure no one will turn away a talent like him and he certainly makes things easier but we should be fine with the group we have and continue to add good ones to the mix like Ray Ray, Chance, etc. Getting a player like JS is just extra credit on top of a grade that should be an A either way.

This is Miami! The fact that Miami or UF or FSU ever had bad receivers or no playmakers is ridiculous. You do need stud receivers on the outside. I just don’t care if it’s Smith or not. This staff and these players need to win games.

 

[JustAFanHTX]

If talent is based on NFL draft, what have Mario’s classes amounted to draft wise?

We know it guys like a Sewell and Thibs, but have those classes produced NFL Draft talent?

I’m curious but haven’t done the homework

I’ll actually look up his Oregon stint tonight and get back to you. Off the top of my head tho he’s gotten some underrated guys drafted.

 

[SayWhat]

I understand what you’re saying. But at some point someone has to take a leap of faith. Just like all the other um players did for coaches that hadn’t won sht and they became legends.
This talk about wins and product is all just more excuses.
Mario and the staff and the recruits he’s brought along have enough imo for a kid to pull the trigger.

The “show me an offense” is just spin to a kid who’s already committed and is showing all the typical talk of someone who isn’t coming.
You want to know what’s another unknown? Where hartline will be coaching in 12 months and I guarantee that’s more of an unknown than what Miami will look like in 12 months.
The only guarantee is that osu will at the very least (unless there is an implosion) will be at a New Year’s Day bowl.
And Miami will hope to win more than 8 games.
But that’s just one year from now and not 2 or 3.
The team Ed reed committed to wasn’t the same team 3 years later.

The other guarantee is that Mario loves this U and this city more than anyone at that sockeye staff loves that team or Columbus.

And he sure as Fck is gonna do everything in his power to make sure that any player gets the best coaching and opportunities to succeed.

As a parent or a player you either believe or or you don’t.
And if you’re gonna compare manny, the chain and loafer boy to mario zo and Rad then go ahead and take off.
But don’t bore us with the “offense with a pulse” bs unless you have specific numbers or exact expectations so we can check receipts.

Regardless of what we do on offense you can always say it just wasn’t enough.

You want a brand new oc with a bunch of new recruits and transfers to perform at the level of an established hc and oc with a bunch elite 5 stars on that offense then good luck in ohio.

Just like last year there will still be growing pains and dudes on here and the opps and the haters will jump on the negativity as soon as any smell of struggle happens.

Be part of the transformation or not. Regardless it’s gonna happen with or without you.

I hear you on all of that, but that last line, that's an opinion and it's his job to sell it.

Last year, after what went down and the firings that occurred should be a red flag to any recruit. Sure, they're gone, but it took him how long to assemble that staff and those results occured.

That's a reason to pause right there. Staff part two, I don't blame them for taking a wait and see approach. Gotta give them something. You wouldn't have come for the last staff had they stayed. This staff is mostly small school coaches trying to come up, you wouldn't want to see how it works out?

When people say the wait and see approach is horse****, I really try and figure what's going on in their head to say that. Would you buy into a product that on its trial run crashed and burned big time? Your other choice is an established product that has been delivering for years. You're sold the dream on that first product, but is it enough to go that route? For some it is, most others though, **** no. Now if you can get them to wait, keep them on the hook or close, show them your product is worth it. Then maybe you get them to buy in.

 

[bobbydigius]

I hear you on all of that, but that last line, that's an opinion and it's his job to sell it.

Last year, after what went down and the firings that occurred should be a red flag to any recruit. Sure, they're gone, but it took him how long to assemble that staff and those results occured.

That's a reason to pause right there. Staff part two, I don't blame them for taking a wait and see approach. Gotta give them something. You wouldn't have come for the last staff had they stayed. This staff is mostly small school coaches trying to come up, you wouldn't want to see how it works out?

When people say the wait and see approach is horse****, I really try and figure what's going on in their head to say that. Would you buy into a product that on its trial run crashed and burned big time? Your other choice is an established product that has been delivering for years. You're sold the dream on that first product, but is it enough to go that route? For some it is, most others though, **** no. Now if you can get them to wait, keep them on the hook or close, show them your product is worth it. Then maybe you get them to buy in.

I just looked at it and while not horrible it isn’t great. He had 5 guys drafted in 21 and only 1 in 22. He also had 4 drafted in 20.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

I hear you and very valid points, but whats the difference between. What Howard was selling? To what Mario is selling? Meaning that class took a chance on Howard and created history. Now we need these guys to take that same chance on Mario. I’m not saying blindly go in because it’s the home team. I’m saying believe in the message that Mario can do what Howard, Jimmy, Dennis Butch/Coker did.

This is just one kid. Plenty of kids are taking a chance on Mario. About 60 of them or so have taken that chance since he was hired. Smith is not yet convinced. Everybody is different. So I’m not disagreeing with you or arguing in the least, I see your point. But this is one kid who isn’t convinced yet. I’m just saying it shouldn’t be so mind-blowing to people as to why there’b be kids who felt this way.

 

[BS85]

Nah leaving the door cracked open ever so slightly

 

[Scorpioncane]

This is the first time I would've loved to see some sunshine!

 

[skyman]

I mean if Dawson calls plays at a high level and we seem to be building an elite Oline, we have a great young group of RBs and we are loaded at TE, do we really need a bunch of 5 star receivers running around the field to win games? Sure no one will turn away a talent like him and he certainly makes things easier but we should be fine with the group we have and continue to add good ones to the mix like Ray Ray, Chance, etc. Getting a player like JS is just extra credit on top of a grade that should be an A either way.

YES, YES WE DO! There is a reason the top teams have been stockpiling elite WR the last few years.. To win big and get to elite level you need multiple explosive elite WRs..

 

[Dwinstitles]

YES, YES WE DO! There is a reason the top teams have been stockpiling elite WR the last few years.. To win big and get to elite level you need multiple explosive elite WRs..

u need elite everything then the QBs come after.

 

[E1k]

I hear you and very valid points, but whats the difference between. What Howard was selling? To what Mario is selling? Meaning that class took a chance on Howard and created history. Now we need these guys to take that same chance on Mario. I’m not saying blindly go in because it’s the home team. I’m saying believe in the message that Mario can do what Howard, Jimmy, Dennis Butch/Coker did.

40 years lol

 

[GojiraCane]

This is Miami! The fact that Miami or UF or FSU ever had bad receivers or no playmakers is ridiculous. You do need stud receivers on the outside. I just don’t care if it’s Smith or not. This staff and these players need to win games.

Larry Coker recruited something like two wide receivers in three season. He had a national championship contending team and got (in terms of three stars and above) Lance Leggett and Sam Shields between 2004 and 2006. That’s it. We lost people to FSU and even lowly Syracuse of all places.

Sometimes skill position players can be talked into not playing for Miami.

 

[TruCane81]

He could easily say I got Ty Hilton drafted. U right Ray Ray is a notch below those special talents. I just think people tie Mario to wins or improvement like it effects his recruiting. Just cause one recruit uses that narrative that doesn't mean that's how it works. Can he secure a better relationship than Hartline is the question. If he can't do that he doesn't have a chance.

You got to see it like jelly beans in a jar.

Every school has different attributes that attract players. For every positive trait is like a jelly bean.Each school is a jar and you through jellybeans in the jar. The school with the most jelly beans in the jar wins. Miami is very different from most other big time football schools and has fewer jelly beans in some areas than those schools.

Miami needs wins to help make our jar more equal to the other schools. The more we win, the better our classes.

Winning isn’t the end all and a good recruiter will recruit. Still, those wins matter in the decision making process. If we were a state school that pulled 90,000 every week in a football obsesses town, wins wouldn’t be as important. But we lack some of those traditional qualities and for the serious alpha dog, football- first ballers we want, it is a factor.

The biggest problem we have is that we JUST NOW started taking football seriously. For those other programs, they may have sucked before they got their ace recruiter coach, but no one believed it was because they were not invested in winning. Miami does have that perception and they are going to have to show they are serious about winning with the product on the field. This team has shown it cannnot expect the benefit of the doubt as after so much squandered opportunity.

The more we win, the better the classes.

 

[TRick72]

They both came down to workout with Swasey…. Right???

Multiple reports from trusted sources that Swasey was seen standing outside the IPF peaking in through the windows on their workout

 

[Calinative]

Brah thats why im praying to the red god, the lord of the 7, the drown god, jesus and yahweh, vishnu and Krishna also budda and rasta to get Drelon Miller. I love when they talk about we need to send 1st round draft picks to the league. Saban said it, Mario knows it. U dont make 1st round draft picks, u recruit them. Its a circular logic for these people.

Dawson has the track record and we gonna turn up.

Listing those 3 and not the Old Gods? If we don't get him we know who to blame.

 

[Brooklyndee]

I bet he’s gotten his return on his investment ten times over by now to bad we didn’t have anyone who loved Miami back then bankrolling these kids 7on7 tours we really allowed the enemies to come set up shop in our backyard and cherry pick our best players because of lack of effort and foresight

I'm sorry but I don't think allot of y'all are aware of the climate we live in. Even on a team we funds we got duasso who plays both sides of the coin & the head trainer has no affiliation one way or the other. In our own backyard our alumni base is not local. That's why when y'all say nil sets up perfectly for us so we can compete(without the basis we developed) you're not realizing how many snakes we got in our own garden. We've developed a **** of a network for this which WILL ALLOW US TO COMPETE MOVING FORWARD but we're just as new as the coaching staff while these other people been planted weeds.

 

[canesbaby]

I'm sorry but I don't think allot of y'all are aware of the climate we live in. Even on a team we funds we got duasso who plays both sides of the coin & the head trainer has no affiliation one way or the other. In our own backyard our alumni base is not local. That's why when y'all say nil sets up perfectly for us so we can compete(without the basis we developed) you're not realizing how many snakes we got in our own garden. We've developed a **** of a network for this which WILL ALLOW US TO COMPETE MOVING FORWARD but we're just as new as the coaching staff while these other people been planted weeds.

Are you or the opinion that we will get there eventually or are the snakes so far embedded in the culture that even Mario has no chance to change it at this point?

 

[Brooklyndee]

Are you or the opinion that we will get there eventually or are the snakes so far embedded in the culture that even Mario has no chance to change it at this point?

Will definitely get there cause it's all a money game. Combine that with results and it makes things easy. Just gotta remember all this is a long term play. Youth league, camps, etc all designed for results down the road. Not day 1.