Jedd

[bathtubgin]

It's not Fisch's fault Morris can't make reads worth a ****. How many times a game do we have to see a big third down fail only to have the replay show at least one receiver glaringly wide open to realize it was the right play call, but the wrong read by the QB?

 

[riceman]

Ignoring the poor execution at times, I disagree with a few of the calls. The wildcat ****? Stop that cute crap. We left a wide *** open duke hanging and tried to go for the gusto resulting in 3 points vs 7. Junk.

Not long after we do some halfback option voodoo and throw to our starting qb, who has already been injured just a few weeks prior, making him a receiving target to hit for defenses. Really? It worked this time, but we were already in the red, why get cute? What if it didn't work, or he got hurt again? Junk.

 

[bathtubgin]

Ignoring the poor execution at times, I disagree with a few of the calls. The wildcat ****? Stop that cute crap. We left a wide *** open duke hanging and tried to go for the gusto resulting in 3 points vs 7. Junk.

Not long after we do some halfback option voodoo and throw to our starting qb, who has already been injured just a few weeks prior, making him a receiving target to hit for defenses. Really? It worked this time, but we were already in the red, why get cute? What if it didn't work, or he got hurt again? Junk.

I'm not a fan of the wildcat stuff either, but the missed throw to Duke is on Dallas. He tried to thread the needle and make a highlight play rather than make the right read, and safe play, by tossing it to Duke.

 

[Consigliere]

I think it is partly on Jedd, partly on execution.

In the red-zone he gets too cute, I hate that. Some of his plays do work in the redzone (that Crawford play) except the players get to greedy or make a poor decision.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

I think it is partly on Jedd, partly on execution.

In the red-zone he gets too cute, I hate that. Some of his plays do work in the redzone (that Crawford play) except the players get to greedy or make a poor decision.

Again, maybe if we had a consistent running game, Fisch wouldn't have to get cute with his play calling. But our running game and rush blocking is so hit-and-miss that it can't be depended upon. And Morris is erratic as all ****, so we can't always depend on that either. So sometimes you have to get creative, hope you confuse the D, and hope that your boys can execute a trick play.

 

[RaiseCane]

I think it is partly on Jedd, partly on execution.

In the red-zone he gets too cute, I hate that. Some of his plays do work in the redzone (that Crawford play) except the players get to greedy or make a poor decision.

Again, maybe if we had a consistent running game, Fisch wouldn't have to get cute with his play calling. But our running game and rush blocking is so hit-and-miss that it can't be depended upon. And Morris is erratic as all ****, so we can't always depend on that either. So sometimes you have to get creative, hope you confuse the D, and hope that your boys can execute a trick play.

Agreed. I have been relatively unhappy with Fisch's lack of commitment to the run, but last night, it seemed to me more that our running game was getting blown up. It annoys me when, like against FSU, we're getting 3-4 yds a carry and then we abandon the run at times, but last night, we were getting shut down for 1 yd and negative runs. I thought that we had several plays set up well for Morris to succeed, but between his happy feet and his inaccuracy last night, he was unreliable too. When he made the right reads and the accurate throws, we were able to move the ball.

As for the wildcat play, I also usually hate the cute, gimmicky stuff that Fisch uses, but honestly, I didn't hate that call. Crawford can both throw it and run it (unlike Mike James, who can't throw), and if Crawford had either run it or thrown it to Duke, we would have got at least 5 yds, and probably more. That play has a chance of being successful in the future and being a weapon. I like that much more than lining up OL out with the WRs and throwing WR screens or using Mike James in the wildcat.

 

[epsilon06]

Morris hasn't been able to hit his targets these past two games. He's had guys open for several tds and he under throws or over throws them all the time!!

 

[umhurricano]

I don't understand how anyone comes away from last night's game thinking we abandoned the run by choice or never tried to establish it. We tried to run on first and second down, but a) you need some balance so you have to pass sometimes, b) we had several false starts, and c) many of our runs went nowhere, either because someone slipped or we didn't open holes. Combine that with the fact that we converted no third downs and there is no chance to establish a running game. How is that his fault when all of those problems are execution issues?

As for the trick plays, the wildcat put Dallas Crawford in a position to run or pass for a touchdown. The throwback to Morris got us some crucial yardage, and Fisch set that up with the first play of the game, which should have gone for big yardage if Hurns holds his block. His trick plays result in guys being wide-open. A young team isn't going to execute all of this, but I don't blame the scheme and I think we will be much better by staying aggressive on offense and growing into the scheme, which, when you think about it, is the exact thing people were complaining about on defense. Sometimes you can't win with our fan base.

 

[SFbayCane]

Im on the other side of the OP's argument: I think Jedd Fisch has done wonders with the offense given our lack of a quality quarterback. Stephen Morris has a very limited range of makable throws. Coach Fisch was able to work with that and had some success until enough teams got it on film. The notre dame game was the very moment when every other DC on our schedule figured out that morris has severe limitations. I cannot put any of our offensive woes on coach Fisch.

 

[DaU83]

Been saying it all year as he is killing us in by putting us in 3rd and long all year. 0-9 at one point of the game is unaccpetable. Made up for it with the trickery to Morris but we just have to be able to move the ball better and keep that D off the field

people have been *****ing about our run game.. he finally tries to run more etc.. and now we're *****ing about 3rd and long? We ran early a bunch, only to get stuffed.. then we'd have a bad pass on second down, or a dropped ball or whatever.. and that leaves us in 3rd and long.. i'm not a believer in the "run it for the sake of running it" mantra.. we did yesterday and it was mostly ineffective.

 

[FreePawn]

He went away from the run totally in the 3rd and it made us look awful. He needs to stick with the run more. The time of possession will kill us again.

Even if it had been three and out. At least we would have killed some clock. And those fat OLs get a chance to try and wear the defense down.

 

[Biscuits]

I'll question that desire, at least as it pertains to this game.

Look, through 3 quarters, we had virtually no rushing game. Duke had run the ball 7 times. 1 of those went for 65 yards, the other 6 went for -1 yard. James had carried the ball 6 times and gained a total of 7 yards. Taken together, that's 12 rushes for a total of 6 yards, and 1 rush for 65 yards. You can't build an offensive game plan around that type of rushing game.

Through 3 quarters, we had 11 called runs. How the **** are you supposed to establish a running game with 11 plays?

DB - My point is this. When you KNOW your QB is a 56% guy who has a book out on him, why are you throwing as much as running? When you KNOW your guy struggles with the second read, why are you throwing a lot? You pound the rock for lots of reasons. To run clock with a gassed D. To wear on the other's team's front 7. To give your dynamic playmaker the ball as much as possible. Fisch almost never calls a run on first and second down. Oddly, the rare times he did last night made no sense. On first and 15. And second down after first didn't do much.

The idea that our OL got obliterated is flat out wrong. We gave our TBs the ball 26 times. 4 times went for negative yardage. Probably another 4 went for no gain. I think that ratio is OK. That's a **** of a lot better than 13/28. Oddly, three of the four negative plays were on first down.

We actually ran the ball more on first down than we passed. Six times, this went for more than five yards. Three went for a loss.

We passed the ball nine times on first down. Four went incomplete or for a loss. Four went for more than five yards. That's a very, very bad percentage of successful plays for first down passing, and every good play was accompanied by a bad one.

E - Finally, and this will sound odd, but this wasn't Jedd's worst game. Hard to do much when your QB goes for worse than 50%.