JC JACKSON!

[fortheu22]

soooo reading through that cluster f*ck , what are the chances with JC?

 

[Cubana]

You gave no stats. You gave your opinion with tostones over your eyes again as usual.

Artie Burns had 5 INTs last season in the same defense. Corn has 2 In 3 years. Tbuck was a 1st round pick in year 3. Corn was told he wasn't going in the 1st 2 rounds in his yr 3 or he would've bolted himself.

Tbuck had 4 Tds as a returner and corn has 2.

Tbuck won the Thorpe award as the best CB in CFB in yr 3. Most CFB fans have never heard of Corn outside of Miami or Duke.

Tbuck is the all time leader at FSU in INTs

Seriously, please realize how foolish you sound. These are facts.

Dummy, You never knew or mentioned T-Buck until I brought him up to discredit your dumb ***.

As usual you are proving my point that if Corn was groomed in the same favorable system as T-Buck which fits his skill set he would have put up the same stats because he has the tools to do so.

Are you denying the fact that Corn played in a bad defensive system which did not use his talents correctly?

And, to mention what Burns did is totally different. That's like comparing apples to oranges so stay on topic. Besides, Bruns only played boundary.

Go watch the cincy game late in the 4th. Watch corn matched up in man coverage outside and look at what happens to him.

Now that you should have a little bit more knowledge about how schemes work. You go back and break down that series and see if the defense was using the best scheme schematically to defend against those plays? If you can do that then you will see why Corn was or was not successful in defending that play. Dummy.

 

[Cubana]

You gave no stats. You gave your opinion with tostones over your eyes again as usual.

Artie Burns had 5 INTs last season in the same defense. Corn has 2 In 3 years. Tbuck was a 1st round pick in year 3. Corn was told he wasn't going in the 1st 2 rounds in his yr 3 or he would've bolted himself.

Tbuck had 4 Tds as a returner and corn has 2.

Tbuck won the Thorpe award as the best CB in CFB in yr 3. Most CFB fans have never heard of Corn outside of Miami or Duke.

Tbuck is the all time leader at FSU in INTs

Seriously, please realize how foolish you sound. These are facts.

Dummy, You never knew or mentioned T-Buck until I brought him up to discredit your dumb ***.

As usual you are proving my point that if Corn was groomed in the same favorable system as T-Buck which fits his skill set he would have put up the same stats because he has the tools to do so.

Are you denying the fact that Corn played in a bad defensive system which did not use his talents correctly?

And, to mention what Burns did is totally different. That's like comparing apples to oranges so stay on topic. Besides, Bruns only played boundary.

Go watch the cincy game late in the 4th. Watch corn matched up in man coverage outside and look at what happens to him.

Now that you should have a little bit more knowledge about how schemes work. You go back and break down that series and see if the defense was using the best scheme schematically to defend against those plays? If you can do that then you will see why Corn was or was not successful in defending that play. Dummy.

It’s 2nd down and 7, 8:38 in the 4th, MIA is down by 4. Do you see the coverage? What’s wrong with the coverage? Where are your safety’s lined up? You have one lined up on the far hash and the other inside the box playing the run. Is this by design or is this a blown coverage?



The first thing you notice is the safety playing play side is still playing the run while the ball is already in the air. Where is the help to the CB play side? Is this by design or blown coverage?



The WR is 18 yrds down the field before the safety play side realizes he should be helping the CB over the top. Is this by design or a blown coverage?



The WR is out of bounds inside the 25 before any safety comes in range to help the CB. Is this by design or a blown coverage?

See you Dummy's don't know a **** thing about football. Just stay at home and watch the game and cheer with your ol lady when we score.

 

[Pentagon Cane]

This shytting all over Elder is ridiculous. He is a very good player and to argue that he's only okay is nonsense. He easily led Miami in PBUs with 11. He led the corners in tackles, tackles for a loss and sacks. He was better in run support than Artie in my opinion. In Diaz's 2-read coverage, the question is can Corn set the edge at times because corners have to do so? Corn is more than capable to excel in Cvr4, Cvr2 and man in Diaz's defense. I think the NFL shied away because last year was his first year where he played considerably. He had 7 starts. His size is an issue so he needs a larger portfolio for NFL scouts. With a very good season, he is going to play at the next level. He's got elite speed and he closes well.

 

[252cane]

This shytting all over Elder is ridiculous. He is a very good player and to argue that he's only okay is nonsense. He easily led Miami in PBUs with 11. He led the corners in tackles, tackles for a loss and sacks. He was better in run support than Artie in my opinion. In Diaz's 2-read coverage, the question is can Corn set the edge at times because corners have to do so? Corn is more than capable to excel in Cvr4, Cvr2 and man in Diaz's defense. I think the NFL shied away because last year was his first year where he played considerably. He had 7 starts. His size is an issue so he needs a larger portfolio for NFL scouts. With a very good season, he is going to play at the next level. He's got elite speed and he closes well.

He runs a high 4.4 that's not elite.

 

[Cubana]

This shytting all over Elder is ridiculous. He is a very good player and to argue that he's only okay is nonsense. He easily led Miami in PBUs with 11. He led the corners in tackles, tackles for a loss and sacks. He was better in run support than Artie in my opinion. In Diaz's 2-read coverage, the question is can Corn set the edge at times because corners have to do so? Corn is more than capable to excel in Cvr4, Cvr2 and man in Diaz's defense. I think the NFL shied away because last year was his first year where he played considerably. He had 7 starts. His size is an issue so he needs a larger portfolio for NFL scouts. With a very good season, he is going to play at the next level. He's got elite speed and he closes well.

He runs a high 4.4 that's not elite.

You are such an idiot. I just gave you the sources for low 4.38 and 4.42. Your dumb *** is still throwing sh** on the wall hoping that it sticks. What a DUMMY you are! lol

 

[252cane]

You gave no stats. You gave your opinion with tostones over your eyes again as usual.

Artie Burns had 5 INTs last season in the same defense. Corn has 2 In 3 years. Tbuck was a 1st round pick in year 3. Corn was told he wasn't going in the 1st 2 rounds in his yr 3 or he would've bolted himself.

Tbuck had 4 Tds as a returner and corn has 2.

Tbuck won the Thorpe award as the best CB in CFB in yr 3. Most CFB fans have never heard of Corn outside of Miami or Duke.

Tbuck is the all time leader at FSU in INTs

Seriously, please realize how foolish you sound. These are facts.

Dummy, You never knew or mentioned T-Buck until I brought him up to discredit your dumb ***.

As usual you are proving my point that if Corn was groomed in the same favorable system as T-Buck which fits his skill set he would have put up the same stats because he has the tools to do so.

Are you denying the fact that Corn played in a bad defensive system which did not use his talents correctly?

And, to mention what Burns did is totally different. That's like comparing apples to oranges so stay on topic. Besides, Bruns only played boundary.

Go watch the cincy game late in the 4th. Watch corn matched up in man coverage outside and look at what happens to him.

Now that you should have a little bit more knowledge about how schemes work. You go back and break down that series and see if the defense was using the best scheme schematically to defend against those plays? If you can do that then you will see why Corn was or was not successful in defending that play. Dummy.

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It’s 2nd down and 7, 8:38 in the 4th, MIA is down by 4. Do you see the coverage? What’s wrong with the coverage? Where are your safety’s lined up? You have one lined up on the far hash and the other inside the box playing the run. Is this by design or is this a blown coverage?

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The first thing you notice is the safety playing play side is still playing the run while the ball is already in the air. Where is the help to the CB play side? Is this by design or blown coverage?

View attachment 35672

The WR is 18 yrds down the field before the safety play side realizes he should be helping the CB over the top. Is this by design or a blown coverage?

View attachment 35673

The WR is out of bounds inside the 25 before any safety comes in range to help the CB. Is this by design or a blown coverage?

See you Dummy's don't know a **** thing about football. Just stay at home and watch the game and cheer with your ol lady when we score.

Don't know football? Lol. There was no blown coverage. You don't always get help over the top in man coverage. That's why they call it being on a island.

Corn was destroyed off the line of scrimmage. That has nothing to do with safety help. If he can't man up with some below average wr without help then that is a big problem.

 

[Canefam]

I know I would feel a lot better going into the season having him and elder locking down the corners. I can't imagine the coaches wouldn't feel the same way. If I had to guess, 55% Miami 45% SC.

 

[252cane]

This shytting all over Elder is ridiculous. He is a very good player and to argue that he's only okay is nonsense. He easily led Miami in PBUs with 11. He led the corners in tackles, tackles for a loss and sacks. He was better in run support than Artie in my opinion. In Diaz's 2-read coverage, the question is can Corn set the edge at times because corners have to do so? Corn is more than capable to excel in Cvr4, Cvr2 and man in Diaz's defense. I think the NFL shied away because last year was his first year where he played considerably. He had 7 starts. His size is an issue so he needs a larger portfolio for NFL scouts. With a very good season, he is going to play at the next level. He's got elite speed and he closes well.

He runs a high 4.4 that's not elite.

You are such an idiot. I just gave you the sources for low 4.38 and 4.42. Your dumb *** is still throwing sh** on the wall hoping that it sticks. What a DUMMY you are! lol

Go pull up the teams 40 times from the summer dumb *****. Grace had the fastest 40 out of all the defensive players.

 

[GoldCane]

Well has JC committed yet? ........I think this thread has been thoroughly ruined and has run its coarse

 

[Cubana]

Dummy, You never knew or mentioned T-Buck until I brought him up to discredit your dumb ***.

As usual you are proving my point that if Corn was groomed in the same favorable system as T-Buck which fits his skill set he would have put up the same stats because he has the tools to do so.

Are you denying the fact that Corn played in a bad defensive system which did not use his talents correctly?

And, to mention what Burns did is totally different. That's like comparing apples to oranges so stay on topic. Besides, Bruns only played boundary.

Go watch the cincy game late in the 4th. Watch corn matched up in man coverage outside and look at what happens to him.

Now that you should have a little bit more knowledge about how schemes work. You go back and break down that series and see if the defense was using the best scheme schematically to defend against those plays? If you can do that then you will see why Corn was or was not successful in defending that play. Dummy.

View attachment 35670

It’s 2nd down and 7, 8:38 in the 4th, MIA is down by 4. Do you see the coverage? What’s wrong with the coverage? Where are your safety’s lined up? You have one lined up on the far hash and the other inside the box playing the run. Is this by design or is this a blown coverage?

View attachment 35671

The first thing you notice is the safety playing play side is still playing the run while the ball is already in the air. Where is the help to the CB play side? Is this by design or blown coverage?

View attachment 35672

The WR is 18 yrds down the field before the safety play side realizes he should be helping the CB over the top. Is this by design or a blown coverage?

View attachment 35673

The WR is out of bounds inside the 25 before any safety comes in range to help the CB. Is this by design or a blown coverage?

See you Dummy's don't know a **** thing about football. Just stay at home and watch the game and cheer with your ol lady when we score.

Don't know football? Lol. There was no blown coverage. You don't always get help over the top in man coverage. That's why they call it being on a island.

Corn was destroyed off the line of scrimmage. That has nothing to do with safety help. If he can't man up with some below average wr without help then that is a big problem.

So you're saying that this coverage was by design. Well, the WR had an option to run a post or a slant on this same play. My question is would the results have been the same had the WR ran a slant instead of the post? The point is either way the CB could not defend either route successfully because the coverage schematically was all wrong for the down, distance and situation. DUMMY.

I believe your Granny could have been successful running either route against that coverage.

As I said, you don't know sh** about football.

Also, it's not that we don't have CBs that can play, but rather, this is a classic example of the DC not putting his players in the best position to be successful.

 

[brock]

Y'all love to bash our players and put players not on the team on a pedestal

 

[Cribby]

Well has JC committed yet? ........I think this thread has been thoroughly ruined and has run its coarse

Yep.

I'll just wait for the welcome to the U. There's some real *****es in this thread

 

[Bennubird]

Agreed Pentagon Cane, Corn is a dynamic CB of the variety that we have not had in some time. What you say about him is true and his 4.4 speed is plenty fast enough for this level and the next. What I see is a young man that makes plays whether it's in playing good aggressive defense or in returning kicks.

This shytting all over Elder is ridiculous. He is a very good player and to argue that he's only okay is nonsense. He easily led Miami in PBUs with 11. He led the corners in tackles, tackles for a loss and sacks. He was better in run support than Artie in my opinion. In Diaz's 2-read coverage, the question is can Corn set the edge at times because corners have to do so? Corn is more than capable to excel in Cvr4, Cvr2 and man in Diaz's defense. I think the NFL shied away because last year was his first year where he played considerably. He had 7 starts. His size is an issue so he needs a larger portfolio for NFL scouts. With a very good season, he is going to play at the next level. He's got elite speed and he closes well.

 

[Foreman]

Y'all love to bash our players and put players not on the team on a pedestal

pedal stool

 

[plantcity3]

Y'all love to bash our players and put players not on the team on a pedestal

pedal stool

Lmao i see he looked it up this time....

 

[fresssh]

Well has JC committed yet? ........I think this thread has been thoroughly ruined and has run its coarse

Yep.

I'll just wait for the welcome to the U. There's some real *****es in this thread

Would have biggest impact for this years recruits. We got to get him. Id be so hyped and hopeful that this defense can be elite. Might sound overly optimistic, but with the new staff and talent, i think its more then reasonable. I just want him and Corn on the field together. Dont care about #1 #2 .

 

[Pentagon Cane]

This shytting all over Elder is ridiculous. He is a very good player and to argue that he's only okay is nonsense. He easily led Miami in PBUs with 11. He led the corners in tackles, tackles for a loss and sacks. He was better in run support than Artie in my opinion. In Diaz's 2-read coverage, the question is can Corn set the edge at times because corners have to do so? Corn is more than capable to excel in Cvr4, Cvr2 and man in Diaz's defense. I think the NFL shied away because last year was his first year where he played considerably. He had 7 starts. His size is an issue so he needs a larger portfolio for NFL scouts. With a very good season, he is going to play at the next level. He's got elite speed and he closes well.

He runs a high 4.4 that's not elite.

Like **** it isn't. A 4.42 would have put in 8th fastest time any position in the 2015 NFL combine. Out of 30 defensive backs who ran only Ronald Darby and Trae Waynes ran sub 4.4.

 

[Tad Footeball]

So if I read this thread correctly we've cooled on JC Jackson but might be interested in Terrell Buckley. Sweeeet!

 

[brock]

Y'all love to bash our players and put players not on the team on a pedestal

pedal stool

Lmao i see he looked it up this time....

You **** right , I knew someone was going to say something lol