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[TheMatador]

When Richt retires .... Bring Back Butch!!!!







Just kidding

He'll be dead

when richt retires, manny diaz will still be young enough to take over.

Yes, but Butch will be dead

How old is Butch now, early '60's? He's already survived cancer, as I recall. He could live another 20 years, but who knows how long he can coach? Joe Paterno was one of the oldest who was still coaching but I remember the speech he gave to a crowd right after he was let go by the trustees. He sounded like he was totally out of it, talking about "we have so much to do..", etc. I don't even know if he understood the situation. He looked wooden and pasty....I've seen that in other older people. I see that in John Kerry, who rambles on about something that obsesses him. He's totally useless, just causes trouble internationally with his OCD. Howard Shnellenberger didn't sound too great when I saw him interviewed. It figures, he must be in his '80's. Unfortunately, some people are too functional and still stir up trouble--Jimmy Carter is one who comes to mind.

I like Butch, but I have no idea how long he'll be a functional coach. Heck, I'm probably older than he is. I still have my alert moments (now is one) other times, I feel like sleeping. (Trump was right about Hillary--I recognize her characteristics and symptoms).

What's it like to around 70 and be a coach? What happens if you have a bladder condition, like many in their 70's do. I guess you wear Depends while you're out coaching. What happens if you have an accident? Leave the sideliine and run to the locker room during a critical set of downs?

I remember Bobby Bowden in his final years....age spots, confusion and the 100 yard stare. Thought his son was fired as an assistant coach on EBay. Heck, I might not understand everything, like Instagram, Imgur, etc., but I do understand Twitter, Facebook, and a few of the others. I know they don't sell live coaches on EBay.

****, the only thing I've noticed is I'm ready to **** more than I ever was, but all the women close to me in age are not terribly attractive...droopy, muffin top bellies, saggy upper arms, and some are even going bald! That's the worst!

Richt won't retire for another 20 years, but Butch is not a likely candidate. Hate to say it, but you really can't be a great coach past your sixties, in most cases.

 

[Odin]

Someone on TOS wrote that Harley said on his snapchat "There might be a flip, I don't know", TIFWIW

I think the kid's genuinely conflicted. He's torn. If we had left him alone after he said he's "shutting down" his recruitment, he'd be gone. Our coaches wouldn't take no for an answer and kept pushing. They probably sowed some doubt in his mind, told him what he'd be missing, and perhaps worked his mom (and other close people) as well.

I wish we'd been on him a little bit earlier, because it might have prevented the development of the relationships he built with the WVA staff. I guess coaches loved his speed, but saw some drawbacks, probably his size and he probably didn't show some of the innate football talent that some other receivers (like Thomas) have. Still, given the fact two (Holloman, Jeudy) of our top three ended up not coming, and the third (Smith) might be very dicey, the second tier, including Pouncey and Harley, move up the board. Different kids react differently. Pouncey was only too happy to untie himself from Notre Dame, Harley is having a much harder time working through any issues. Who knows what they are. I think he must truly have a very tight bond with at least somebody on the WVA staff. The problem is, there is so much turnover on college football staffs that the guy who you bonded with so tightly might be gone after a year or two. Hard realities of life haven't always sunk in for kids still in their teens. It happens with girlfriends, other friends, coaches and people who might mentor you at work.

Also, sometimes the coach you bonded with might not turn out to be such a great guy when you end up in his program.

I think Harley is working through this and I believe he is genuinely trying to figure out the situation. I still think his heart is WVA for some reason but he also knows what it would be like to forsake the U and south Florida for the relative obscurity of the West Virginia hill country.

I don't think it's the school he is attached to as much as the coach Seider. I think it's hard to build these relationships and then tell a coach thanks but I'm not coming anymore.


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Latrell Williams had no problem doing that to Dugans.

 

[Angry Ibis]

When Richt retires .... Bring Back Butch!!!!







Just kidding

He'll be dead

when richt retires, manny diaz will still be young enough to take over.

Yes, but Butch will be dead

How old is Butch now, early '60's? He's already survived cancer, as I recall. He could live another 20 years, but who knows how long he can coach? Joe Paterno was one of the oldest who was still coaching but I remember the speech he gave to a crowd right after he was let go by the trustees. He sounded like he was totally out of it, talking about "we have so much to do..", etc. I don't even know if he understood the situation. He looked wooden and pasty....I've seen that in other older people. I see that in John Kerry, who rambles on about something that obsesses him. He's totally useless, just causes trouble internationally with his OCD. Howard Shnellenberger didn't sound too great when I saw him interviewed. It figures, he must be in his '80's. Unfortunately, some people are too functional and still stir up trouble--Jimmy Carter is one who comes to mind.

I like Butch, but I have no idea how long he'll be a functional coach. Heck, I'm probably older than he is. I still have my alert moments (now is one) other times, I feel like sleeping. (Trump was right about Hillary--I recognize her characteristics and symptoms).

What's it like to around 70 and be a coach? What happens if you have a bladder condition, like many in their 70's do. I guess you wear Depends while you're out coaching. What happens if you have an accident? Leave the sideliine and run to the locker room during a critical set of downs?

I remember Bobby Bowden in his final years....age spots, confusion and the 100 yard stare. Thought his son was fired as an assistant coach on EBay. Heck, I might not understand everything, like Instagram, Imgur, etc., but I do understand Twitter, Facebook, and a few of the others. I know they don't sell live coaches on EBay.

****, the only thing I've noticed is I'm ready to **** more than I ever was, but all the women close to me in age are not terribly attractive...droopy, muffin top bellies, saggy upper arms, and some are even going bald! That's the worst!

Richt won't retire for another 20 years, but Butch is not a likely candidate. Hate to say it, but you really can't be a great coach past your sixties, in most cases.

Is that you John Kerry?

 

[TheMatador]

I just moved with my family from Germantown to NC.

[MENTION=608]MedleyCane[/MENTION] [MENTION=9338]RVACane[/MENTION]
I forget, where are you guys at in mont co? I'm in Gaithersburg.

I'm close to you with my kids who live in Bethesda though I live in Richmond. Medley is in Annapolis I believe.

Didn't realize there were so many Canes fans here in the D.C. area. Probably a lot more. They've got a good alumni group now, very good. I am not an alum, but helped start the alumni group here in the '80's and it was so hard to find UM fans to show up at a Hurricane Watch party. We started out holding them at the great, but now gone, sports bar in Georgetown, Champions. Why they closed, I don't know. It was legendary.

 

[wherrera8]

Someone on TOS wrote that Harley said on his snapchat "There might be a flip, I don't know", TIFWIW

I think the kid's genuinely conflicted. He's torn. If we had left him alone after he said he's "shutting down" his recruitment, he'd be gone. Our coaches wouldn't take no for an answer and kept pushing. They probably sowed some doubt in his mind, told him what he'd be missing, and perhaps worked his mom (and other close people) as well.

I wish we'd been on him a little bit earlier, because it might have prevented the development of the relationships he built with the WVA staff. I guess coaches loved his speed, but saw some drawbacks, probably his size and he probably didn't show some of the innate football talent that some other receivers (like Thomas) have. Still, given the fact two (Holloman, Jeudy) of our top three ended up not coming, and the third (Smith) might be very dicey, the second tier, including Pouncey and Harley, move up the board. Different kids react differently. Pouncey was only too happy to untie himself from Notre Dame, Harley is having a much harder time working through any issues. Who knows what they are. I think he must truly have a very tight bond with at least somebody on the WVA staff. The problem is, there is so much turnover on college football staffs that the guy who you bonded with so tightly might be gone after a year or two. Hard realities of life haven't always sunk in for kids still in their teens. It happens with girlfriends, other friends, coaches and people who might mentor you at work.

Also, sometimes the coach you bonded with might not turn out to be such a great guy when you end up in his program.

I think Harley is working through this and I believe he is genuinely trying to figure out the situation. I still think his heart is WVA for some reason but he also knows what it would be like to forsake the U and south Florida for the relative obscurity of the West Virginia hill country.

I don't think it's the school he is attached to as much as the coach Seider. I think it's hard to build these relationships and then tell a coach thanks but I'm not coming anymore.


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Latrell Williams had no problem doing that to Dugans.

I mean not all kids have an issue with that. I'm just saying this could be a case of that.


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[TheMatador]

Someone on TOS wrote that Harley said on his snapchat "There might be a flip, I don't know", TIFWIW

I think the kid's genuinely conflicted. He's torn. If we had left him alone after he said he's "shutting down" his recruitment, he'd be gone. Our coaches wouldn't take no for an answer and kept pushing. They probably sowed some doubt in his mind, told him what he'd be missing, and perhaps worked his mom (and other close people) as well.

I wish we'd been on him a little bit earlier, because it might have prevented the development of the relationships he built with the WVA staff. I guess coaches loved his speed, but saw some drawbacks, probably his size and he probably didn't show some of the innate football talent that some other receivers (like Thomas) have. Still, given the fact two (Holloman, Jeudy) of our top three ended up not coming, and the third (Smith) might be very dicey, the second tier, including Pouncey and Harley, move up the board. Different kids react differently. Pouncey was only too happy to untie himself from Notre Dame, Harley is having a much harder time working through any issues. Who knows what they are. I think he must truly have a very tight bond with at least somebody on the WVA staff. The problem is, there is so much turnover on college football staffs that the guy who you bonded with so tightly might be gone after a year or two. Hard realities of life haven't always sunk in for kids still in their teens. It happens with girlfriends, other friends, coaches and people who might mentor you at work.

Also, sometimes the coach you bonded with might not turn out to be such a great guy when you end up in his program.

I think Harley is working through this and I believe he is genuinely trying to figure out the situation. I still think his heart is WVA for some reason but he also knows what it would be like to forsake the U and south Florida for the relative obscurity of the West Virginia hill country.

I don't think it's the school he is attached to as much as the coach Seider. I think it's hard to build these relationships and then tell a coach thanks but I'm not coming anymore.


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That's what I suspected. It's usually a coach. They bond with a coach and it's hard to let go. I don't recall reading about how and when he bonded with a WVU assistant, but that might be what happens sometimes when you get into the game late, as I guess we did with Harley. I have a recollection of the name Seider. I'll have to look up his background and I wonder how long he might even be there. A lot of assistants leave after a few years. It's amazing, all of a sudden a guy whose name I know turns up somewhere else. How many places has Jed Fisch been? Now he's at UCLA? That's why I could never be a coach. You have to really love it more than anything else.

 

[Astcloud11]

Someone on TOS wrote that Harley said on his snapchat "There might be a flip, I don't know", TIFWIW

I think the kid's genuinely conflicted. He's torn. If we had left him alone after he said he's "shutting down" his recruitment, he'd be gone. Our coaches wouldn't take no for an answer and kept pushing. They probably sowed some doubt in his mind, told him what he'd be missing, and perhaps worked his mom (and other close people) as well.

I wish we'd been on him a little bit earlier, because it might have prevented the development of the relationships he built with the WVA staff. I guess coaches loved his speed, but saw some drawbacks, probably his size and he probably didn't show some of the innate football talent that some other receivers (like Thomas) have. Still, given the fact two (Holloman, Jeudy) of our top three ended up not coming, and the third (Smith) might be very dicey, the second tier, including Pouncey and Harley, move up the board. Different kids react differently. Pouncey was only too happy to untie himself from Notre Dame, Harley is having a much harder time working through any issues. Who knows what they are. I think he must truly have a very tight bond with at least somebody on the WVA staff. The problem is, there is so much turnover on college football staffs that the guy who you bonded with so tightly might be gone after a year or two. Hard realities of life haven't always sunk in for kids still in their teens. It happens with girlfriends, other friends, coaches and people who might mentor you at work.

Also, sometimes the coach you bonded with might not turn out to be such a great guy when you end up in his program.

I think Harley is working through this and I believe he is genuinely trying to figure out the situation. I still think his heart is WVA for some reason but he also knows what it would be like to forsake the U and south Florida for the relative obscurity of the West Virginia hill country.

I don't think it's the school he is attached to as much as the coach Seider. I think it's hard to build these relationships and then tell a coach thanks but I'm not coming anymore.


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That's what I suspected. It's usually a coach. They bond with a coach and it's hard to let go. I don't recall reading about how and when he bonded with a WVU assistant, but that might be what happens sometimes when you get into the game late, as I guess we did with Harley. I have a recollection of the name Seider. I'll have to look up his background and I wonder how long he might even be there. A lot of assistants leave after a few years. It's amazing, all of a sudden a guy whose name I know turns up somewhere else. How many places has Jed Fisch been? Now he's at UCLA? That's why I could never be a coach. You have to really love it more than anything else.

JJ Seider spent 7 years coaching in South Florida. He was at Glades Central, PB Lakes, and Lake Worth before he started coaching under Dana Holgorsen

 

[TheMatador]

Someone on TOS wrote that Harley said on his snapchat "There might be a flip, I don't know", TIFWIW

I think the kid's genuinely conflicted. He's torn. If we had left him alone after he said he's "shutting down" his recruitment, he'd be gone. Our coaches wouldn't take no for an answer and kept pushing. They probably sowed some doubt in his mind, told him what he'd be missing, and perhaps worked his mom (and other close people) as well.

I wish we'd been on him a little bit earlier, because it might have prevented the development of the relationships he built with the WVA staff. I guess coaches loved his speed, but saw some drawbacks, probably his size and he probably didn't show some of the innate football talent that some other receivers (like Thomas) have. Still, given the fact two (Holloman, Jeudy) of our top three ended up not coming, and the third (Smith) might be very dicey, the second tier, including Pouncey and Harley, move up the board. Different kids react differently. Pouncey was only too happy to untie himself from Notre Dame, Harley is having a much harder time working through any issues. Who knows what they are. I think he must truly have a very tight bond with at least somebody on the WVA staff. The problem is, there is so much turnover on college football staffs that the guy who you bonded with so tightly might be gone after a year or two. Hard realities of life haven't always sunk in for kids still in their teens. It happens with girlfriends, other friends, coaches and people who might mentor you at work.

Also, sometimes the coach you bonded with might not turn out to be such a great guy when you end up in his program.

I think Harley is working through this and I believe he is genuinely trying to figure out the situation. I still think his heart is WVA for some reason but he also knows what it would be like to forsake the U and south Florida for the relative obscurity of the West Virginia hill country.

I don't think it's the school he is attached to as much as the coach Seider. I think it's hard to build these relationships and then tell a coach thanks but I'm not coming anymore.


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That's what I suspected. It's usually a coach. They bond with a coach and it's hard to let go. I don't recall reading about how and when he bonded with a WVU assistant, but that might be what happens sometimes when you get into the game late, as I guess we did with Harley. I have a recollection of the name Seider. I'll have to look up his background and I wonder how long he might even be there. A lot of assistants leave after a few years. It's amazing, all of a sudden a guy whose name I know turns up somewhere else. How many places has Jed Fisch been? Now he's at UCLA? That's why I could never be a coach. You have to really love it more than anything else.

JJ Seider spent 7 years coaching in South Florida. He was at Glades Central, PB Lakes, and Lake Worth before he started coaching under Dana Holgorsen

Thanks! I actually looked him up on WVU's website. Played at FAMU, from Belle Glade, but got his degrees at WVU. He's spent a great deal of his career at WVU. Probably not going anywhere soon. Sounds like a WVU institution, like Kehoe was at UM, but with ability to recruit. Sounds like Harley really loves this guy. Hope we can sell him on other opportunities at UM. Can understand how a kid does not want to **** on the coach and school that showed him love from the beginning, and we came in late.

This is what recruiting is all about. I've gone through this with the program (as a fan) now for about thirty years. During the JJ years in particular we were fighting hard for some blue chippers to the very end. Lost some to Notre Dame, a lot to FSU, and got some. I think we might actually be doing better, although we don't have any five stars but that doesn't make a difference. We need some speed and playmaking on the outside. Guys who can stretch defenses and can take it to the house from anywhere. I'd love to get both Harley and Thomas, but realistically, we might just get Thomas (which is great). Hope we don't strike out completely.

 

[RVACane]

When Richt retires .... Bring Back Butch!!!!







Just kidding

He'll be dead

when richt retires, manny diaz will still be young enough to take over.

Yes, but Butch will be dead

How old is Butch now, early '60's? He's already survived cancer, as I recall. He could live another 20 years, but who knows how long he can coach? Joe Paterno was one of the oldest who was still coaching but I remember the speech he gave to a crowd right after he was let go by the trustees. He sounded like he was totally out of it, talking about "we have so much to do..", etc. I don't even know if he understood the situation. He looked wooden and pasty....I've seen that in other older people. I see that in John Kerry, who rambles on about something that obsesses him. He's totally useless, just causes trouble internationally with his OCD. Howard Shnellenberger didn't sound too great when I saw him interviewed. It figures, he must be in his '80's. Unfortunately, some people are too functional and still stir up trouble--Jimmy Carter is one who comes to mind.

I like Butch, but I have no idea how long he'll be a functional coach. Heck, I'm probably older than he is. I still have my alert moments (now is one) other times, I feel like sleeping. (Trump was right about Hillary--I recognize her characteristics and symptoms).

What's it like to around 70 and be a coach? What happens if you have a bladder condition, like many in their 70's do. I guess you wear Depends while you're out coaching. What happens if you have an accident? Leave the sideliine and run to the locker room during a critical set of downs?

I remember Bobby Bowden in his final years....age spots, confusion and the 100 yard stare. Thought his son was fired as an assistant coach on EBay. Heck, I might not understand everything, like Instagram, Imgur, etc., but I do understand Twitter, Facebook, and a few of the others. I know they don't sell live coaches on EBay.

****, the only thing I've noticed is I'm ready to **** more than I ever was, but all the women close to me in age are not terribly attractive...droopy, muffin top bellies, saggy upper arms, and some are even going bald! That's the worst!

Richt won't retire for another 20 years, but Butch is not a likely candidate. Hate to say it, but you really can't be a great coach past your sixties, in most cases.

I'm 50. You're depressing me. Glad I'm leaving Bethesda this morning. I don't want to catch whatever it is you've got being that you may be near here as You are in MD, if I recall. You need a happy hobby. I need one too.

 

[RVACane]

I think the kid's genuinely conflicted. He's torn. If we had left him alone after he said he's "shutting down" his recruitment, he'd be gone. Our coaches wouldn't take no for an answer and kept pushing. They probably sowed some doubt in his mind, told him what he'd be missing, and perhaps worked his mom (and other close people) as well.

I wish we'd been on him a little bit earlier, because it might have prevented the development of the relationships he built with the WVA staff. I guess coaches loved his speed, but saw some drawbacks, probably his size and he probably didn't show some of the innate football talent that some other receivers (like Thomas) have. Still, given the fact two (Holloman, Jeudy) of our top three ended up not coming, and the third (Smith) might be very dicey, the second tier, including Pouncey and Harley, move up the board. Different kids react differently. Pouncey was only too happy to untie himself from Notre Dame, Harley is having a much harder time working through any issues. Who knows what they are. I think he must truly have a very tight bond with at least somebody on the WVA staff. The problem is, there is so much turnover on college football staffs that the guy who you bonded with so tightly might be gone after a year or two. Hard realities of life haven't always sunk in for kids still in their teens. It happens with girlfriends, other friends, coaches and people who might mentor you at work.

Also, sometimes the coach you bonded with might not turn out to be such a great guy when you end up in his program.

I think Harley is working through this and I believe he is genuinely trying to figure out the situation. I still think his heart is WVA for some reason but he also knows what it would be like to forsake the U and south Florida for the relative obscurity of the West Virginia hill country.

I don't think it's the school he is attached to as much as the coach Seider. I think it's hard to build these relationships and then tell a coach thanks but I'm not coming anymore.


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That's what I suspected. It's usually a coach. They bond with a coach and it's hard to let go. I don't recall reading about how and when he bonded with a WVU assistant, but that might be what happens sometimes when you get into the game late, as I guess we did with Harley. I have a recollection of the name Seider. I'll have to look up his background and I wonder how long he might even be there. A lot of assistants leave after a few years. It's amazing, all of a sudden a guy whose name I know turns up somewhere else. How many places has Jed Fisch been? Now he's at UCLA? That's why I could never be a coach. You have to really love it more than anything else.

JJ Seider spent 7 years coaching in South Florida. He was at Glades Central, PB Lakes, and Lake Worth before he started coaching under Dana Holgorsen

Thanks! I actually looked him up on WVU's website. Played at FAMU, from Belle Glade, but got his degrees at WVU. He's spent a great deal of his career at WVU. Probably not going anywhere soon. Sounds like a WVU institution, like Kehoe was at UM, but with ability to recruit. Sounds like Harley really loves this guy. Hope we can sell him on other opportunities at UM. Can understand how a kid does not want to **** on the coach and school that showed him love from the beginning, and we came in late.

This is what recruiting is all about. I've gone through this with the program (as a fan) now for about thirty years. During the JJ years in particular we were fighting hard for some blue chippers to the very end. Lost some to Notre Dame, a lot to FSU, and got some. I think we might actually be doing better, although we don't have any five stars but that doesn't make a difference. We need some speed and playmaking on the outside. Guys who can stretch defenses and can take it to the house from anywhere. I'd love to get both Harley and Thomas, but realistically, we might just get Thomas (which is great). Hope we don't strike out completely.

I've been talking about JaJuan Seider for awhile. I think an SEC school like BAMA will grab him at some point, maybe after signing day. With Cristoballs gone, Saban could use a Florida guy. Could you imagine if Harley signs on NSD only to learn shortly after that the coach he loves so much who he followed to WVU is going elsewhere? Gonna be a long 4 years Mikey.

 

[TheMatador]

I don't think it's the school he is attached to as much as the coach Seider. I think it's hard to build these relationships and then tell a coach thanks but I'm not coming anymore.


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That's what I suspected. It's usually a coach. They bond with a coach and it's hard to let go. I don't recall reading about how and when he bonded with a WVU assistant, but that might be what happens sometimes when you get into the game late, as I guess we did with Harley. I have a recollection of the name Seider. I'll have to look up his background and I wonder how long he might even be there. A lot of assistants leave after a few years. It's amazing, all of a sudden a guy whose name I know turns up somewhere else. How many places has Jed Fisch been? Now he's at UCLA? That's why I could never be a coach. You have to really love it more than anything else.

JJ Seider spent 7 years coaching in South Florida. He was at Glades Central, PB Lakes, and Lake Worth before he started coaching under Dana Holgorsen

Thanks! I actually looked him up on WVU's website. Played at FAMU, from Belle Glade, but got his degrees at WVU. He's spent a great deal of his career at WVU. Probably not going anywhere soon. Sounds like a WVU institution, like Kehoe was at UM, but with ability to recruit. Sounds like Harley really loves this guy. Hope we can sell him on other opportunities at UM. Can understand how a kid does not want to **** on the coach and school that showed him love from the beginning, and we came in late.

This is what recruiting is all about. I've gone through this with the program (as a fan) now for about thirty years. During the JJ years in particular we were fighting hard for some blue chippers to the very end. Lost some to Notre Dame, a lot to FSU, and got some. I think we might actually be doing better, although we don't have any five stars but that doesn't make a difference. We need some speed and playmaking on the outside. Guys who can stretch defenses and can take it to the house from anywhere. I'd love to get both Harley and Thomas, but realistically, we might just get Thomas (which is great). Hope we don't strike out completely.

I've been talking about JaJuan Seider for awhile. I think an SEC school like BAMA will grab him at some point, maybe after signing day. With Cristoballs gone, Saban could use a Florida guy. Could you imagine if Harley signs on NSD only to learn shortly after that the coach he loves so much who he followed to WVU is going elsewhere? Gonna be a long 4 years Mikey.

That's what I'm thinking. As you get older, you go in and out of relationships, and I'm not talking just about with the opposite ***. It happens with friends, co-workers, mentors, bosses, and of course, women.

The kid needs to see the big picture and know that there's got to be more for him than just Seider. Needs to look at the rest of the staff, the players, the school, its students, location.

Outside of Seider, I've got to think that there's much more to offer him at the U. Of course, I don't even know how good he is. I did look at a few highlights, and I was impressed, but it's always that way with highlights of the better HS players.

Somebody mentioned Latrell Williams. Completely forgot about him. I don't think he played this past year at Tennessee. Wonder what they sold him. I don't know how often it's a duffle bag even with the SEC. I don't know if it's only the most highly recruited or everybody.

 

[TheMatador]

He'll be dead

when richt retires, manny diaz will still be young enough to take over.

Yes, but Butch will be dead

How old is Butch now, early '60's? He's already survived cancer, as I recall. He could live another 20 years, but who knows how long he can coach? Joe Paterno was one of the oldest who was still coaching but I remember the speech he gave to a crowd right after he was let go by the trustees. He sounded like he was totally out of it, talking about "we have so much to do..", etc. I don't even know if he understood the situation. He looked wooden and pasty....I've seen that in other older people. I see that in John Kerry, who rambles on about something that obsesses him. He's totally useless, just causes trouble internationally with his OCD. Howard Shnellenberger didn't sound too great when I saw him interviewed. It figures, he must be in his '80's. Unfortunately, some people are too functional and still stir up trouble--Jimmy Carter is one who comes to mind.

I like Butch, but I have no idea how long he'll be a functional coach. Heck, I'm probably older than he is. I still have my alert moments (now is one) other times, I feel like sleeping. (Trump was right about Hillary--I recognize her characteristics and symptoms).

What's it like to around 70 and be a coach? What happens if you have a bladder condition, like many in their 70's do. I guess you wear Depends while you're out coaching. What happens if you have an accident? Leave the sideliine and run to the locker room during a critical set of downs?

I remember Bobby Bowden in his final years....age spots, confusion and the 100 yard stare. Thought his son was fired as an assistant coach on EBay. Heck, I might not understand everything, like Instagram, Imgur, etc., but I do understand Twitter, Facebook, and a few of the others. I know they don't sell live coaches on EBay.

****, the only thing I've noticed is I'm ready to **** more than I ever was, but all the women close to me in age are not terribly attractive...droopy, muffin top bellies, saggy upper arms, and some are even going bald! That's the worst!

Richt won't retire for another 20 years, but Butch is not a likely candidate. Hate to say it, but you really can't be a great coach past your sixties, in most cases.

I'm 50. You're depressing me. Glad I'm leaving Bethesda this morning. I don't want to catch whatever it is you've got being that you may be near here as You are in MD, if I recall. You need a happy hobby. I need one too.

Don't get depressed...I wrote that stuff mainly tongue-in-cheek. I'm always making fun of older people, and a lot of them are no older than I am. I'm a heck of a lot older than you are. I've got plenty to keep me busy, and I'm not usually depressed. I'm in Rockville, what they sometimes like to call North Bethesda.

I've been following the Canes since about 1955. I think I attended a UM-Alabama game in the OB that year. I think we won, too. Alabama was not too good then.

I call myself the Matador because I loved George Mira. Remember them good old days in the OB. If we went 7-3 we had a good season. Almost never went to a bowl because there weren't that many of them.

Football was very, very different. Recruited a lot of working class white kids many with ethnic backgrounds, from Maryland, WVA, western Pennsylvania, western NY, industrial parts of Indiana, Ohio. We didn't have as many scholarships as some of the bigger schools. We'd get some top tier players, but not enough. We also recruited Wisconsin because Walt Kichefski, the real institution at UM, and he did a lot of our recruiting, was from Rhinelander, WI. He got guys like Pete Banaszak, and maybe Jim Otto from Wisconsin, although I can't remember where Otto was from. Kichefski also recruited a lot in western Pennsylvania, because his NFL career was with the Steelers, I think. Maryland was very different. Cumberland in the northwest tip of the state had powerhouse HS football. We recruited a lot up there. We used to go to the Buffalo area. We got all-time great Don Bosseler from a smaller town in western NY. Smail town in upstate NY produced some great players, like Ernie Davis, the Elmira Express. I remember him gashing us in the OB one year. Big and fast.

 

[RVACane]

when richt retires, manny diaz will still be young enough to take over.

Yes, but Butch will be dead

How old is Butch now, early '60's? He's already survived cancer, as I recall. He could live another 20 years, but who knows how long he can coach? Joe Paterno was one of the oldest who was still coaching but I remember the speech he gave to a crowd right after he was let go by the trustees. He sounded like he was totally out of it, talking about "we have so much to do..", etc. I don't even know if he understood the situation. He looked wooden and pasty....I've seen that in other older people. I see that in John Kerry, who rambles on about something that obsesses him. He's totally useless, just causes trouble internationally with his OCD. Howard Shnellenberger didn't sound too great when I saw him interviewed. It figures, he must be in his '80's. Unfortunately, some people are too functional and still stir up trouble--Jimmy Carter is one who comes to mind.

I like Butch, but I have no idea how long he'll be a functional coach. Heck, I'm probably older than he is. I still have my alert moments (now is one) other times, I feel like sleeping. (Trump was right about Hillary--I recognize her characteristics and symptoms).

What's it like to around 70 and be a coach? What happens if you have a bladder condition, like many in their 70's do. I guess you wear Depends while you're out coaching. What happens if you have an accident? Leave the sideliine and run to the locker room during a critical set of downs?

I remember Bobby Bowden in his final years....age spots, confusion and the 100 yard stare. Thought his son was fired as an assistant coach on EBay. Heck, I might not understand everything, like Instagram, Imgur, etc., but I do understand Twitter, Facebook, and a few of the others. I know they don't sell live coaches on EBay.

****, the only thing I've noticed is I'm ready to **** more than I ever was, but all the women close to me in age are not terribly attractive...droopy, muffin top bellies, saggy upper arms, and some are even going bald! That's the worst!

Richt won't retire for another 20 years, but Butch is not a likely candidate. Hate to say it, but you really can't be a great coach past your sixties, in most cases.

I'm 50. You're depressing me. Glad I'm leaving Bethesda this morning. I don't want to catch whatever it is you've got being that you may be near here as You are in MD, if I recall. You need a happy hobby. I need one too.

Don't get depressed...I wrote that stuff mainly tongue-in-cheek. I'm always making fun of older people, and a lot of them are no older than I am. I'm a heck of a lot older than you are. I've got plenty to keep me busy, and I'm not usually depressed. I'm in Rockville, what they sometimes like to call North Bethesda.

I've been following the Canes since about 1955. I think I attended a UM-Alabama game in the OB that year. I think we won, too. Alabama was not too good then.

I call myself the Matador because I loved George Mira. Remember them good old days in the OB. If we went 7-3 we had a good season. Almost never went to a bowl because there weren't that many of them.

Football was very, very different. Recruited a lot of working class white kids many with ethnic backgrounds, from Maryland, WVA, western Pennsylvania, western NY, industrial parts of Indiana, Ohio. We didn't have as many scholarships as some of the bigger schools. We'd get some top tier players, but not enough. We also recruited Wisconsin because Walt Kichefski, the real institution at UM, and he did a lot of our recruiting, was from Rhinelander, WI. He got guys like Pete Banaszak, and maybe Jim Otto from Wisconsin, although I can't remember where Otto was from. Kichefski also recruited a lot in western Pennsylvania, because his NFL career was with the Steelers, I think. Maryland was very different. Cumberland in the northwest tip of the state had powerhouse HS football. We recruited a lot up there. We used to go to the Buffalo area. We got all-time great Don Bosseler from a smaller town in western NY. Smail town in upstate NY produced some great players, like Ernie Davis, the Elmira Express. I remember him gashing us in the OB one year. Big and fast.

I was at Montgomery Mall on Friday night... right in your neighborhood. Not sure when you attended but my father went to the U from 1956-1960. I went to that small school in DC where Ward Circle, Mass Ave and Nebraska Ave intersect but I grew up going to Canes games being born and raised down there. My father told me we used to get a lot of our "big guys" from Western PA.

 

[MIA42178]

He'll be dead

when richt retires, manny diaz will still be young enough to take over.

Yes, but Butch will be dead

How old is Butch now, early '60's? He's already survived cancer, as I recall. He could live another 20 years, but who knows how long he can coach? Joe Paterno was one of the oldest who was still coaching but I remember the speech he gave to a crowd right after he was let go by the trustees. He sounded like he was totally out of it, talking about "we have so much to do..", etc. I don't even know if he understood the situation. He looked wooden and pasty....I've seen that in other older people. I see that in John Kerry, who rambles on about something that obsesses him. He's totally useless, just causes trouble internationally with his OCD. Howard Shnellenberger didn't sound too great when I saw him interviewed. It figures, he must be in his '80's. Unfortunately, some people are too functional and still stir up trouble--Jimmy Carter is one who comes to mind.

I like Butch, but I have no idea how long he'll be a functional coach. Heck, I'm probably older than he is. I still have my alert moments (now is one) other times, I feel like sleeping. (Trump was right about Hillary--I recognize her characteristics and symptoms).

What's it like to around 70 and be a coach? What happens if you have a bladder condition, like many in their 70's do. I guess you wear Depends while you're out coaching. What happens if you have an accident? Leave the sideliine and run to the locker room during a critical set of downs?

I remember Bobby Bowden in his final years....age spots, confusion and the 100 yard stare. Thought his son was fired as an assistant coach on EBay. Heck, I might not understand everything, like Instagram, Imgur, etc., but I do understand Twitter, Facebook, and a few of the others. I know they don't sell live coaches on EBay.

****, the only thing I've noticed is I'm ready to **** more than I ever was, but all the women close to me in age are not terribly attractive...droopy, muffin top bellies, saggy upper arms, and some are even going bald! That's the worst!

Richt won't retire for another 20 years, but Butch is not a likely candidate. Hate to say it, but you really can't be a great coach past your sixties, in most cases.

I'm 50. You're depressing me. Glad I'm leaving Bethesda this morning. I don't want to catch whatever it is you've got being that you may be near here as You are in MD, if I recall. You need a happy hobby. I need one too.

 

[cubin10]

Yes, but Butch will be dead

How old is Butch now, early '60's? He's already survived cancer, as I recall. He could live another 20 years, but who knows how long he can coach? Joe Paterno was one of the oldest who was still coaching but I remember the speech he gave to a crowd right after he was let go by the trustees. He sounded like he was totally out of it, talking about "we have so much to do..", etc. I don't even know if he understood the situation. He looked wooden and pasty....I've seen that in other older people. I see that in John Kerry, who rambles on about something that obsesses him. He's totally useless, just causes trouble internationally with his OCD. Howard Shnellenberger didn't sound too great when I saw him interviewed. It figures, he must be in his '80's. Unfortunately, some people are too functional and still stir up trouble--Jimmy Carter is one who comes to mind.

I like Butch, but I have no idea how long he'll be a functional coach. Heck, I'm probably older than he is. I still have my alert moments (now is one) other times, I feel like sleeping. (Trump was right about Hillary--I recognize her characteristics and symptoms).

What's it like to around 70 and be a coach? What happens if you have a bladder condition, like many in their 70's do. I guess you wear Depends while you're out coaching. What happens if you have an accident? Leave the sideliine and run to the locker room during a critical set of downs?

I remember Bobby Bowden in his final years....age spots, confusion and the 100 yard stare. Thought his son was fired as an assistant coach on EBay. Heck, I might not understand everything, like Instagram, Imgur, etc., but I do understand Twitter, Facebook, and a few of the others. I know they don't sell live coaches on EBay.

****, the only thing I've noticed is I'm ready to **** more than I ever was, but all the women close to me in age are not terribly attractive...droopy, muffin top bellies, saggy upper arms, and some are even going bald! That's the worst!

Richt won't retire for another 20 years, but Butch is not a likely candidate. Hate to say it, but you really can't be a great coach past your sixties, in most cases.

I'm 50. You're depressing me. Glad I'm leaving Bethesda this morning. I don't want to catch whatever it is you've got being that you may be near here as You are in MD, if I recall. You need a happy hobby. I need one too.

Don't get depressed...I wrote that stuff mainly tongue-in-cheek. I'm always making fun of older people, and a lot of them are no older than I am. I'm a heck of a lot older than you are. I've got plenty to keep me busy, and I'm not usually depressed. I'm in Rockville, what they sometimes like to call North Bethesda.

I've been following the Canes since about 1955. I think I attended a UM-Alabama game in the OB that year. I think we won, too. Alabama was not too good then.

I call myself the Matador because I loved George Mira. Remember them good old days in the OB. If we went 7-3 we had a good season. Almost never went to a bowl because there weren't that many of them.

Football was very, very different. Recruited a lot of working class white kids many with ethnic backgrounds, from Maryland, WVA, western Pennsylvania, western NY, industrial parts of Indiana, Ohio. We didn't have as many scholarships as some of the bigger schools. We'd get some top tier players, but not enough. We also recruited Wisconsin because Walt Kichefski, the real institution at UM, and he did a lot of our recruiting, was from Rhinelander, WI. He got guys like Pete Banaszak, and maybe Jim Otto from Wisconsin, although I can't remember where Otto was from. Kichefski also recruited a lot in western Pennsylvania, because his NFL career was with the Steelers, I think. Maryland was very different. Cumberland in the northwest tip of the state had powerhouse HS football. We recruited a lot up there. We used to go to the Buffalo area. We got all-time great Don Bosseler from a smaller town in western NY. Smail town in upstate NY produced some great players, like Ernie Davis, the Elmira Express. I remember him gashing us in the OB one year. Big and fast.

I was at Montgomery Mall on Friday night... right in your neighborhood. Not sure when you attended but my father went to the U from 1956-1960. I went to that small school in DC where Ward Circle, Mass Ave and Nebraska Ave intersect but I grew up going to Canes games being born and raised down there. My father told me we used to get a lot of our "big guys" from Western PA.

That is true, Andy Gustafson was the coach and had a pipeline into western pa. Went to the OB regularly as a kid from 1958 on, Fran Curci was the quarterback, Jim Otto was the center, Alumni and life long die hard Cane, and don't ask my ***** age.

 

[cubin10]

when richt retires, manny diaz will still be young enough to take over.

Yes, but Butch will be dead

How old is Butch now, early '60's? He's already survived cancer, as I recall. He could live another 20 years, but who knows how long he can coach? Joe Paterno was one of the oldest who was still coaching but I remember the speech he gave to a crowd right after he was let go by the trustees. He sounded like he was totally out of it, talking about "we have so much to do..", etc. I don't even know if he understood the situation. He looked wooden and pasty....I've seen that in other older people. I see that in John Kerry, who rambles on about something that obsesses him. He's totally useless, just causes trouble internationally with his OCD. Howard Shnellenberger didn't sound too great when I saw him interviewed. It figures, he must be in his '80's. Unfortunately, some people are too functional and still stir up trouble--Jimmy Carter is one who comes to mind.

I like Butch, but I have no idea how long he'll be a functional coach. Heck, I'm probably older than he is. I still have my alert moments (now is one) other times, I feel like sleeping. (Trump was right about Hillary--I recognize her characteristics and symptoms).

What's it like to around 70 and be a coach? What happens if you have a bladder condition, like many in their 70's do. I guess you wear Depends while you're out coaching. What happens if you have an accident? Leave the sideliine and run to the locker room during a critical set of downs?

I remember Bobby Bowden in his final years....age spots, confusion and the 100 yard stare. Thought his son was fired as an assistant coach on EBay. Heck, I might not understand everything, like Instagram, Imgur, etc., but I do understand Twitter, Facebook, and a few of the others. I know they don't sell live coaches on EBay.

****, the only thing I've noticed is I'm ready to **** more than I ever was, but all the women close to me in age are not terribly attractive...droopy, muffin top bellies, saggy upper arms, and some are even going bald! That's the worst!

Richt won't retire for another 20 years, but Butch is not a likely candidate. Hate to say it, but you really can't be a great coach past your sixties, in most cases.

I'm 50. You're depressing me. Glad I'm leaving Bethesda this morning. I don't want to catch whatever it is you've got being that you may be near here as You are in MD, if I recall. You need a happy hobby. I need one too.

Don't get depressed...I wrote that stuff mainly tongue-in-cheek. I'm always making fun of older people, and a lot of them are no older than I am. I'm a heck of a lot older than you are. I've got plenty to keep me busy, and I'm not usually depressed. I'm in Rockville, what they sometimes like to call North Bethesda.

I've been following the Canes since about 1955. I think I attended a UM-Alabama game in the OB that year. I think we won, too. Alabama was not too good then.

I call myself the Matador because I loved George Mira. Remember them good old days in the OB. If we went 7-3 we had a good season. Almost never went to a bowl because there weren't that many of them.

Football was very, very different. Recruited a lot of working class white kids many with ethnic backgrounds, from Maryland, WVA, western Pennsylvania, western NY, industrial parts of Indiana, Ohio. We didn't have as many scholarships as some of the bigger schools. We'd get some top tier players, but not enough. We also recruited Wisconsin because Walt Kichefski, the real institution at UM, and he did a lot of our recruiting, was from Rhinelander, WI. He got guys like Pete Banaszak, and maybe Jim Otto from Wisconsin, although I can't remember where Otto was from. Kichefski also recruited a lot in western Pennsylvania, because his NFL career was with the Steelers, I think. Maryland was very different. Cumberland in the northwest tip of the state had powerhouse HS football. We recruited a lot up there. We used to go to the Buffalo area. We got all-time great Don Bosseler from a smaller town in western NY. Smail town in upstate NY produced some great players, like Ernie Davis, the Elmira Express. I remember him gashing us in the OB one year. Big and fast.

I recall MIami going to the Gotham Bowl, and yes loved to watch George Mira sling it around, he was exciting to watch. If I recall correctly again, memory issues, wasn't Bill Miller his prime target and then went on to play for the Bills. Didn't David Olivo back up George?

 

[John77]

when richt retires, manny diaz will still be young enough to take over.

Yes, but Butch will be dead

How old is Butch now, early '60's? He's already survived cancer, as I recall. He could live another 20 years, but who knows how long he can coach? Joe Paterno was one of the oldest who was still coaching but I remember the speech he gave to a crowd right after he was let go by the trustees. He sounded like he was totally out of it, talking about "we have so much to do..", etc. I don't even know if he understood the situation. He looked wooden and pasty....I've seen that in other older people. I see that in John Kerry, who rambles on about something that obsesses him. He's totally useless, just causes trouble internationally with his OCD. Howard Shnellenberger didn't sound too great when I saw him interviewed. It figures, he must be in his '80's. Unfortunately, some people are too functional and still stir up trouble--Jimmy Carter is one who comes to mind.

I like Butch, but I have no idea how long he'll be a functional coach. Heck, I'm probably older than he is. I still have my alert moments (now is one) other times, I feel like sleeping. (Trump was right about Hillary--I recognize her characteristics and symptoms).

What's it like to around 70 and be a coach? What happens if you have a bladder condition, like many in their 70's do. I guess you wear Depends while you're out coaching. What happens if you have an accident? Leave the sideliine and run to the locker room during a critical set of downs?

I remember Bobby Bowden in his final years....age spots, confusion and the 100 yard stare. Thought his son was fired as an assistant coach on EBay. Heck, I might not understand everything, like Instagram, Imgur, etc., but I do understand Twitter, Facebook, and a few of the others. I know they don't sell live coaches on EBay.

****, the only thing I've noticed is I'm ready to **** more than I ever was, but all the women close to me in age are not terribly attractive...droopy, muffin top bellies, saggy upper arms, and some are even going bald! That's the worst!

Richt won't retire for another 20 years, but Butch is not a likely candidate. Hate to say it, but you really can't be a great coach past your sixties, in most cases.

I'm 50. You're depressing me. Glad I'm leaving Bethesda this morning. I don't want to catch whatever it is you've got being that you may be near here as You are in MD, if I recall. You need a happy hobby. I need one too.

Don't get depressed...I wrote that stuff mainly tongue-in-cheek. I'm always making fun of older people, and a lot of them are no older than I am. I'm a heck of a lot older than you are. I've got plenty to keep me busy, and I'm not usually depressed. I'm in Rockville, what they sometimes like to call North Bethesda.

I've been following the Canes since about 1955. I think I attended a UM-Alabama game in the OB that year. I think we won, too. Alabama was not too good then.

I call myself the Matador because I loved George Mira. Remember them good old days in the OB. If we went 7-3 we had a good season. Almost never went to a bowl because there weren't that many of them.

Football was very, very different. Recruited a lot of working class white kids many with ethnic backgrounds, from Maryland, WVA, western Pennsylvania, western NY, industrial parts of Indiana, Ohio. We didn't have as many scholarships as some of the bigger schools. We'd get some top tier players, but not enough. We also recruited Wisconsin because Walt Kichefski, the real institution at UM, and he did a lot of our recruiting, was from Rhinelander, WI. He got guys like Pete Banaszak, and maybe Jim Otto from Wisconsin, although I can't remember where Otto was from. Kichefski also recruited a lot in western Pennsylvania, because his NFL career was with the Steelers, I think. Maryland was very different. Cumberland in the northwest tip of the state had powerhouse HS football. We recruited a lot up there. We used to go to the Buffalo area. We got all-time great Don Bosseler from a smaller town in western NY. Smail town in upstate NY produced some great players, like Ernie Davis, the Elmira Express. I remember him gashing us in the OB one year. Big and fast.

Rockville is a nice area, I worked for SAP over there for a little while. Just moved out of the D.C. area myself. Used to live in Foggy Bottom.

 

[RVACane]

Yes, but Butch will be dead

How old is Butch now, early '60's? He's already survived cancer, as I recall. He could live another 20 years, but who knows how long he can coach? Joe Paterno was one of the oldest who was still coaching but I remember the speech he gave to a crowd right after he was let go by the trustees. He sounded like he was totally out of it, talking about "we have so much to do..", etc. I don't even know if he understood the situation. He looked wooden and pasty....I've seen that in other older people. I see that in John Kerry, who rambles on about something that obsesses him. He's totally useless, just causes trouble internationally with his OCD. Howard Shnellenberger didn't sound too great when I saw him interviewed. It figures, he must be in his '80's. Unfortunately, some people are too functional and still stir up trouble--Jimmy Carter is one who comes to mind.

I like Butch, but I have no idea how long he'll be a functional coach. Heck, I'm probably older than he is. I still have my alert moments (now is one) other times, I feel like sleeping. (Trump was right about Hillary--I recognize her characteristics and symptoms).

What's it like to around 70 and be a coach? What happens if you have a bladder condition, like many in their 70's do. I guess you wear Depends while you're out coaching. What happens if you have an accident? Leave the sideliine and run to the locker room during a critical set of downs?

I remember Bobby Bowden in his final years....age spots, confusion and the 100 yard stare. Thought his son was fired as an assistant coach on EBay. Heck, I might not understand everything, like Instagram, Imgur, etc., but I do understand Twitter, Facebook, and a few of the others. I know they don't sell live coaches on EBay.

****, the only thing I've noticed is I'm ready to **** more than I ever was, but all the women close to me in age are not terribly attractive...droopy, muffin top bellies, saggy upper arms, and some are even going bald! That's the worst!

Richt won't retire for another 20 years, but Butch is not a likely candidate. Hate to say it, but you really can't be a great coach past your sixties, in most cases.

I'm 50. You're depressing me. Glad I'm leaving Bethesda this morning. I don't want to catch whatever it is you've got being that you may be near here as You are in MD, if I recall. You need a happy hobby. I need one too.

Don't get depressed...I wrote that stuff mainly tongue-in-cheek. I'm always making fun of older people, and a lot of them are no older than I am. I'm a heck of a lot older than you are. I've got plenty to keep me busy, and I'm not usually depressed. I'm in Rockville, what they sometimes like to call North Bethesda.

I've been following the Canes since about 1955. I think I attended a UM-Alabama game in the OB that year. I think we won, too. Alabama was not too good then.

I call myself the Matador because I loved George Mira. Remember them good old days in the OB. If we went 7-3 we had a good season. Almost never went to a bowl because there weren't that many of them.

Football was very, very different. Recruited a lot of working class white kids many with ethnic backgrounds, from Maryland, WVA, western Pennsylvania, western NY, industrial parts of Indiana, Ohio. We didn't have as many scholarships as some of the bigger schools. We'd get some top tier players, but not enough. We also recruited Wisconsin because Walt Kichefski, the real institution at UM, and he did a lot of our recruiting, was from Rhinelander, WI. He got guys like Pete Banaszak, and maybe Jim Otto from Wisconsin, although I can't remember where Otto was from. Kichefski also recruited a lot in western Pennsylvania, because his NFL career was with the Steelers, I think. Maryland was very different. Cumberland in the northwest tip of the state had powerhouse HS football. We recruited a lot up there. We used to go to the Buffalo area. We got all-time great Don Bosseler from a smaller town in western NY. Smail town in upstate NY produced some great players, like Ernie Davis, the Elmira Express. I remember him gashing us in the OB one year. Big and fast.

Rockville is a nice area, I worked for SAP over there for a little while. Just moved out of the D.C. area myself. Used to live in Foggy Bottom.

Wow... I lived on 21st St going towards Dupont Circle in my youth.

 

[Bennubird]

We were in Germantown from 1998-2016. I know the name Champions. Where was it located in Germantown? I'm trying to remember the name of the little seafood restaurant off 118 between Wisteria and Middlebrook. Anyway, yeah there are a lot of Canes in the area now. In some parts of the city I would see more UM gear than UMaryland gear.

I just moved with my family from Germantown to NC.

[MENTION=608]MedleyCane[/MENTION] [MENTION=9338]RVACane[/MENTION]
I forget, where are you guys at in mont co? I'm in Gaithersburg.

I'm close to you with my kids who live in Bethesda though I live in Richmond. Medley is in Annapolis I believe.

Didn't realize there were so many Canes fans here in the D.C. area. Probably a lot more. They've got a good alumni group now, very good. I am not an alum, but helped start the alumni group here in the '80's and it was so hard to find UM fans to show up at a Hurricane Watch party. We started out holding them at the great, but now gone, sports bar in Georgetown, Champions. Why they closed, I don't know. It was legendary.

 

[Bennubird]

Welcome to the half century club! Rep.

He'll be dead

when richt retires, manny diaz will still be young enough to take over.

Yes, but Butch will be dead

How old is Butch now, early '60's? He's already survived cancer, as I recall. He could live another 20 years, but who knows how long he can coach? Joe Paterno was one of the oldest who was still coaching but I remember the speech he gave to a crowd right after he was let go by the trustees. He sounded like he was totally out of it, talking about "we have so much to do..", etc. I don't even know if he understood the situation. He looked wooden and pasty....I've seen that in other older people. I see that in John Kerry, who rambles on about something that obsesses him. He's totally useless, just causes trouble internationally with his OCD. Howard Shnellenberger didn't sound too great when I saw him interviewed. It figures, he must be in his '80's. Unfortunately, some people are too functional and still stir up trouble--Jimmy Carter is one who comes to mind.

I like Butch, but I have no idea how long he'll be a functional coach. Heck, I'm probably older than he is. I still have my alert moments (now is one) other times, I feel like sleeping. (Trump was right about Hillary--I recognize her characteristics and symptoms).

What's it like to around 70 and be a coach? What happens if you have a bladder condition, like many in their 70's do. I guess you wear Depends while you're out coaching. What happens if you have an accident? Leave the sideliine and run to the locker room during a critical set of downs?

I remember Bobby Bowden in his final years....age spots, confusion and the 100 yard stare. Thought his son was fired as an assistant coach on EBay. Heck, I might not understand everything, like Instagram, Imgur, etc., but I do understand Twitter, Facebook, and a few of the others. I know they don't sell live coaches on EBay.

****, the only thing I've noticed is I'm ready to **** more than I ever was, but all the women close to me in age are not terribly attractive...droopy, muffin top bellies, saggy upper arms, and some are even going bald! That's the worst!

Richt won't retire for another 20 years, but Butch is not a likely candidate. Hate to say it, but you really can't be a great coach past your sixties, in most cases.

I'm 50. You're depressing me. Glad I'm leaving Bethesda this morning. I don't want to catch whatever it is you've got being that you may be near here as You are in MD, if I recall. You need a happy hobby. I need one too.