Jake Heaps' potential and assessment

JustCanesBaby

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So I'm not too computer savvy and I wish I could make a video to show all of Jake Heap's throws from last year but I'll just give you my take on what I saw.

Most, if not all, of Kansas' games are on Youtube. Call it too much time on my hands but I watched approximately 7 of his games fast-forwarding to when he was in the line-up.

The positive

Overall, I think he's a good QB. He's very accurate and throws strikes. He makes calls at the line, points out blitzing defensive players and adjusts accordingly. Rarely did I see him make a bad throw in the short and intermediate range. He doesn't force throws at all. If the play is not there he would either throw it away or throw it out of reach of the defensive and offensive player to avoid intentional grounding.

The negative

I wouldn't say this is necessarily negatives in his game but negatives in what I saw in Kansas' team. I think it was around game 6 or 7 they burn the true freshman Montell Cozart's shirt and start having this dual-quarterback system. It was reminiscent of Miami in 2008 with Jacory Harris and Robert Marve. Every game all the announcers would touch on was how Heaps was the thrower and Cozart was the runner. It was the weirdest quarterback system I saw. Heaps would go 3 series straight, then Cozart for the next 2, and then Heaps the next 2. Kansas did this from game 6 or so and on. When Kansas was down too much they would have Heaps in exclusively. Almost every game the announcers were like Heaps is playing well or throws a nice ball so why is Cozart coming in. Cozart wasn't even accurate. He would come in almost just to do zone read plays.

Heaps doesn't throw the deep ball very well. It could be a combination of his receivers almost never getting separation but there were a lot of over-thrown passes.

Heaps' WRs were, in fact, horrible. Literally, too many drop passes. Every game it was laughable to the announcers. Heaps is putting the ball right between the numbers or leading a WR in stride and they flat out dropped it. I'm not lying when I say out of his 10 int, 5 for a fact were because they came off the hands of a WR.

Heaps' OL was, in fact, garbage. Too many possessions where he snaps the ball and literally a guy is almost in his face and he just takes the sack. However, there are times where the rush was coming fast and he did a good job of evading. I think it was the Kansas State game where his stats were displayed and an announcer commented how those would be so much better if he had more time, his receivers weren't dropping so many passes and they didn't implement the dual-quarterback system.

Conclusion

Guys, I know we always throw out comparisons and I want you to hear me out. I think he can have a Russell Wilson's last year type of season in terms of getting to a program late, picking up the playbook quickly, and playing smart. This guy throws a very nice ball, is accurate and makes smart decisions with the football. After watching the tape, I think he comes in and starts.
 
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Nice post bc like you said you had a lot of time but you were able to provide based on your opinion decent research on the kid that I probably hadn't have done but have been waiting to hear. Everything so far has been cut and paste pretty much the same info. Hopefully he's pretty good as you say and can create an awesome competition at the quarterback position this year as well as teach some of the good he's learned from the many coaches he's encountered along the way.
 
If you listen to his personal qb coach, the Heaps is essentially Drew Brees with elite accuracy and timing.
When you are surrounded by horrible talent, it is difficult to shine.

Go watch Favre in college or Jay Cutler in college. They ran for their lives on every passing play and threw to receivers with stone hands.

For a closer to home reference try to remember the Frank Costa games.
I think he could have actually been a really good to even better than really good qb except that he got beat to death on the field.
Poor Frank Costa would stand tall in the pocket, wait until the last moment and make a gorgeous throw he would never see get dropped, because he would be buried under 600lbs of defensive players.

Heaps, Olsen, HBK.

Doesn't matter to me. Just get the best one out there and get the ball to our elite playmakers.
 
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IMO everyone agrees the kid has the talent but never had near the talent around him to shine like he will have at the U. I think with a healthy Duke, Gus and Yearby and a QB like Heaps that is great on intermediate routes this could work out. Just run the ball 30+ times a game and play action off that with the occassional deep route to Dorsett or Coley but mostly in the middle of the field about 10-15 yards to Walford and the WR's.
 
For a closer to home reference try to remember the Frank Costa games.
I think he could have actually been a really good to even better than really good qb except that he got beat to death on the field.
Poor Frank Costa would stand tall in the pocket, wait until the last moment and make a gorgeous throw he would never see get dropped, because he would be buried under 600lbs of defensive players.

Costa had a cannon, but had the slowest release that I've ever seen from a college QB. When compared to Dorsey it was like a pitcher's wind up.
 
I don't think it's the fact of talent. It's that he got best put for the job more then once in multiple systems. He is lacking something and I don't want to find out what it is. Rather see Olsen or Kayaa get the job. Heaps too me Is a traning camp additive just for comp. While golden may few differently I tend to believe it Will play out that way.
 
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I don't think it's the fact of talent. It's that he got best put for the job more then once in multiple systems. He is lacking something and I don't want to find out what it is. Rather see Olsen or Kayaa get the job. Heaps too me Is a traning camp additive just for comp. While golden may few differently I tend to believe it Will play out that way.

Yeah I am not expecting him to shine or anything but if he can be a good game manager for our first 3 games that is fine. Freshman always make mistakes but a 5th year senior should be able to digest the playbook, make checks at the line and he is used to the tempo and speed of the game unlike Olsen and Kaaya. All he has to be is a bridge till Williams gets back.
 
Well the positive is that he'll be playing with the best athletes at the WR, RB, and O-line that he has ever played w/ at BYU and Kansas....throw the ball to Coley or Dorsett on time and accurate 2 step/3 step drops and watch them go to work and don't turn over the football
 
You guys are delusional

Agreed. Competition for playing time sucks. What if Heaps pushes Olsen and Kaaya. Maybe Kaaya pushes the others. Could be that Olsen, gets his head on straight, and pushes the other 2. And the best of the three, while it still may be a FR, a redshirt FR, or a former national highly ranked QB outta HS, wins...yeah. Sounds bad. Lets just hand the starting job to the local S. FL. QB to appease local high school coaches even the kid plays absolutely awful.

Not saying we get the next Dorsey out of any of the three...but how is completion for playing time bad?
 
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Brad got this *****, no worries. All the others are insurance. Olsen should look to transfer to somewhere where testing isn't an issue.
 
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You guys are delusional

Agreed. Competition for playing time sucks. What if Heaps pushes Olsen and Kaaya. Maybe Kaaya pushes the others. Could be that Olsen, gets his head on straight, and pushes the other 2. And the best of the three, while it still may be a FR, a redshirt FR, or a former national highly ranked QB outta HS, wins...yeah. Sounds bad. Lets just hand the starting job to the local S. FL. QB to appease local high school coaches even the kid plays absolutely awful.

Not saying we get the next Dorsey out of any of the three...but how is completion for playing time bad?
the guys a troll. don't feed it
 
No one will be pulling harder for our QB (whoever that turns out to be) to look like a UM QB than I will, but honestly - considering his experience at BYU and then Kansas - I have my doubts about Heaps. My first question is why would Heaps - a five star QB by some services - even transfer to Kansas? It seems reasonable to assume that he knew the players including the receivers and OL would be Kansas caliber players - so why even go there? What were his options? What were "experts" from other programs seeing in his game? And, if big time schools were calling - again why would you transfer to K-A-N-S-A-S? Seems a bit like fools gold. Hope that I'm wrong and that he does have a Russell Wilson like senior season, but how do you look at these stats and then just put it ALL on the players around him:

http://espn.go.com/college-football/player/_/id/501563/jake-heaps
 
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