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He ****ed around and found out.
Yeah… his pops tried to follow the Cecil Newton School of Negotiations plan and walked away with nothing.
Kid probably won’t be at ASU past two years.
I have not seen it yet but from the outside looking in it certainly seems that he has an argument that he relied on the UF promise to his detriment, and to an identifiable detriment based on whatever UM was offering. So not just a speculative “this is what I would have been worth” detriment.I’m sure it’s been discussed in other thread but are the Rashada’s trying to sue the gator collective?
Your dad would have advised you to turn down 6 million from an actual billionaire, after receiving the first check of 125k, for a promised 13.2 million from a collective despite the fact that no money was paid up front? if so, your dad would have made the same mistaken calculation that theMan… every time something like this comes up I’m blown away at the takes of grown *** men towards a kid. Having been raised by a dad who absolutely would have done the same, I feel deeply compassionate for the kid. I can’t imagine being his age and dealing with all of this with a dad who is looking out for his own glory. I’ll be rooting for him to get good mentorship and to use this as a growing opportunity to become a better man. Wouldn’t mind seeing him succeed on the field either.
I have not seen it yet but from the outside looking in it certainly seems that he has an argument that he relied on the UF promise to his detriment, and to an identifiable detriment based on whatever UM was offering. So not just a speculative “this is what I would have been worth” detriment.
And even if the new proposed law was not ex post facto, I still don’t think it would protect UF from the lawsuit.
I disagree. Only because of this clause in the reporting, obviously I would need to read the actual documents myself this appears to be an illusory promise:I have not seen it yet but from the outside looking in it certainly seems that he has an argument that he relied on the UF promise to his detriment, and to an identifiable detriment based on whatever UM was offering. So not just a speculative “this is what I would have been worth” detriment.
And even if the new proposed law was not ex post facto, I still don’t think it would protect UF from the lawsuit.
Seeing as, per dad, he never really wanted to be here and had “buyer’s remorse” pretty much right after I’m kind of glad it all fell apart. Lesson learned for the young man. Can’t make that kind of decision solely on money because you ultimately be miserable.Your dad would have advised you to turn down 6 million from an actual billionaire, after receiving the first check of 125k, for a promised 13.2 million from a collective despite the fact that no money was paid up front? if so, your dad would have made the same mistaken calculation that the
Rashada’s made. It’s unfortunate because the mistake means that zero homework was done on who was offering the money and for what.
Now let’s say your dad would not have understood how to do the background work to distinguish between a real offer versus an imaginary offer. Then I hope he would have done what the Rashada’s did which was to hire people whose job it was to do the homework. The problem is they hired someone who is seemingly incompetent.
That is not completely the Rashada’s fault. They relied on incompetent people. Which is why I hope the Rashada’s get some better guidance and sue the **** out of UF, the Gator Collective, and the people in their own life whose fiduciary duty it was to guard against this. But we are all responsible for who we hire. If we hire incompetent people that is our own responsibility.
Hence my comment earlier that there are a lot of ignorant people involved here (ignorant is probably correct); the boosters, the agents, the family and ultimately the player.
This 100%Your dad would have advised you to turn down 6 million from an actual billionaire, after receiving the first check of 125k, for a promised 13.2 million from a collective despite the fact that no money was paid up front? if so, your dad would have made the same mistaken calculation that the
Rashada’s made. It’s unfortunate because the mistake means that zero homework was done on who was offering the money and for what.
Now let’s say your dad would not have understood how to do the background work to distinguish between a real offer versus an imaginary offer. Then I hope he would have done what the Rashada’s did which was to hire people whose job it was to do the homework. The problem is they hired someone who is seemingly incompetent.
That is not completely the Rashada’s fault. They relied on incompetent people. Which is why I hope the Rashada’s get some better guidance and sue the **** out of UF, the Gator Collective, and the people in their own life whose fiduciary duty it was to guard against this. But we are all responsible for who we hire. If we hire incompetent people that is our own responsibility.
Hence my comment earlier that there are a lot of ignorant people involved here (ignorant is probably correct); the boosters, the agents, the family and ultimately the player.
Your dad would have advised you to turn down 6 million from an actual billionaire, after receiving the first check of 125k, for a promised 13.2 million from a collective despite the fact that no money was paid up front? if so, your dad would have made the same mistaken calculation that the
Rashada’s made. It’s unfortunate because the mistake means that zero homework was done on who was offering the money and for what.
Now let’s say your dad would not have understood how to do the background work to distinguish between a real offer versus an imaginary offer. Then I hope he would have done what the Rashada’s did which was to hire people whose job it was to do the homework. The problem is they hired someone who is seemingly incompetent.
That is not completely the Rashada’s fault. They relied on incompetent people. Which is why I hope the Rashada’s get some better guidance and sue the **** out of UF, the Gator Collective, and the people in their own life whose fiduciary duty it was to guard against this. But we are all responsible for who we hire. If we hire incompetent people that is our own responsibility.
Hence my comment earlier that there are a lot of ignorant people involved here (ignorant is probably correct); the boosters, the agents, the family and ultimately the player.
I wonder if that would protect the collective in a lawsuit. I hope they sue as it would be interesting to watch how the case plays out.*IF* you believe the article, the contract was cancellable at any time by the GC.
You maybe correct. I don’t have enough experience with civil litigation to know whether this clause protects them against everything. But let me add that if the clause does as you propose, that makes the decision to accept UF’s deal about 500% worse than the deal already was. The attorneys/agents involved on the Rashada side need to find something else to do with their lives as they are not good at advising on NIL deals.I disagree. Only because of this clause in the reporting, obviously I would need to read the actual documents myself this appears to be an illusory promise:
The contract also states that the collective can “in its sole and absolute discretion” terminate the agreement “without penalty or further obligation."
There was no mention of severance pay or buyouts, and without notice or severance provisions, depending on the drafting, payments are at the whim of the "Collective" who a recruit should be wary of transacting with moving forward.
Since the family had counsel, that clause ma be a bar to recovery for promissory estoppel on the grounds of detrimental reliance.
So in the end, did Rashada end up with zero dollars to sign with ASU?