Ivins - Staff makes “huge stop”

[86Gang]

Bogle part 2.

Nothing like that clown show.

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

That’s such an epically stupid take.

It’s only wasting time if it takes away from something more important. Our class is pretty much full.

TThey aren’t getting played. The kid isn’t taking someone else’s spot. Let them try til the bitter end if they want to.

The 2020 class is already in the can. Why not spend some time with an impressionable, talented kid right before the buzzer?

Top Seven Ways I Would Rather Diaz, Baker, and Banda Spend that Time

7. Coming up with some defensive wrinkles to maximize our S and DE talent this upcoming season.
6. Brainstorming how to improve our 3rd & 4th down defense this coming season.
5. Recruiting James Williams (or Kevin Knowles) (or Kamren Kitchens) (or pretty much any talented 2021 kid).
4. Planning out their 2021 DB recruiting board for what looks to be a pretty strong class for South Florida.
3. Figuring out the answer to getting a stop on those tricky 4th & 17 plays.
2. Recruiting Meiko Dotson (or pretty much any talented GT CB).
1. In a meeting that concludes with Diaz firing Banda and Baker.

 

[Go Canes!!]

Top Seven Ways I Would Rather Diaz, Baker, and Banda Spend that Time

7. Coming up with some defensive wrinkles to maximize our S and DE talent this upcoming season.
6. Brainstorming how to improve our 3rd & 4th down defense this coming season.
5. Recruiting James Williams (or Kevin Knowles) (or Kamren Kitchens) (or pretty much any talented 2021 kid).
4. Planning out their 2021 DB recruiting board for what looks to be a pretty strong class for South Florida.
3. Figuring out the answer to getting a stop on those tricky 4th & 17 plays.
2. Recruiting Meiko Dotson (or pretty much any talented GT CB).
1. In a meeting that concludes with Diaz firing Banda and Baker.

So basically, when things get tough and the odds are stacked against you, quit and move on to something else.

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

So basically, when things get tough and the odds are stacked against you, quit and move on to something else.

This isn't a Lifetime after-school special, it's major college football recruiting.

 

[Go Canes!!]

This isn't a Lifetime after-school special, it's major college football recruiting.

Yeah I know that, do you? Cause in major college football coaches scratch, claw and fight for premier recruits to the bitter end, then do everything else on your list every single day.

There is no justifiable reason not to recruit this kid every chance they get, no matter how slim the chance, other than your feelings being hurt when he doesn't pick us.

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

Yeah I know that, do you? Cause in major college football coaches scratch, claw and fight for premier recruits to the bitter end, then do everything else on your list every single day.

There is no justifiable reason not to recruit this kid every chance they get, no matter how slim the chance, other than your feelings being hurt when he doesn't pick us.

My feelings are fine, chief. I have been quite confident Tae isn't going to pick us for quite some time, and that perspective that comes with it is calming. But while you're in here giving your best Rudy speech about never quitting until the final bell, and our coaches are out in the world spending additional time on kids that have already told us no, time continues to be wasted.

In the real world, where all resources are limited, you need to carefully decide how to allocate them. And there is no resource more precious than time. You think the HC, DC, and ST coaches taking a few hours out of their day recruiting a young man who has already decommitted, openly discussed bags, and needs diaper money is a great idea because "we never quit?" Grow up.

You think this is about feelings? Get out of yours. This is about opportunity cost and the value of time. Being able to efficiently disengage from targets that are highly unlikely to commit so you can maximize your chance of success with other (more likely) targets.

The best programs are either coldly efficient in their recruiting and management, increase their budgets so they can throw more man hours at recruiting and operations, or both. If we want to compete in recruiting, we need to be more efficient in recruiting. Allocating time wisely is critical.

 

[Biltoc24]

Shooters shoot. I don’t mind the effort.

 

[Boarcane]

My feelings are fine, chief. I have been quite confident Tae isn't going to pick us for quite some time, and that perspective that comes with it is calming. But while you're in here giving your best Rudy speech about never quitting until the final bell, and our coaches are out in the world spending additional time on kids that have already told us no, time continues to be wasted.

In the real world, where all resources are limited, you need to carefully decide how to allocate them. And there is no resource more precious than time. You think the HC, DC, and ST coaches taking a few hours out of their day recruiting a young man who has already decommitted, openly discussed bags, and needs diaper money is a great idea because "we never quit?" Grow up.

You think this is about feelings? Get out of yours. This is about opportunity cost and the value of time. Being able to efficiently disengage from targets that are highly unlikely to commit so you can maximize your chance of success with other (more likely) targets.

The best programs are either coldly efficient in their recruiting and management, increase their budgets so they can throw more man hours at recruiting and operations, or both. If we want to compete in recruiting, we need to be more efficient in recruiting. Allocating time wisely is critical.

i’m curious, if he does choose to attend the university of miami, how does your life/time theory play going forward? not a troll.

 

[TheMatador]

Totally agree. No way he's coming to Miami. Besides the Lingard factor, he has 2 kids and mentioned he wanted to be close to his children. He said, “It’s way too far, it would take me a whole day to get home, and I got two kids." That was the main reason for decommitting from Oregon. Gainesville is less than 2 hours away.

Given the season they had and the one they had, I just don't see it. We're going to get played on NSD. If you want to make your signing a splash, you have to have some legit schools on the table. I expect Miami, Florida, and UGA to be on the table come NSD. He's going to Florida.

I doubt that we can pay enough to support those two kids and probably more on the way.

 

[Go Canes!!]

My feelings are fine, chief. I have been quite confident Tae isn't going to pick us for quite some time, and that perspective that comes with it is calming. But while you're in here giving your best Rudy speech about never quitting until the final bell, and our coaches are out in the world spending additional time on kids that have already told us no, time continues to be wasted.

In the real world, where all resources are limited, you need to carefully decide how to allocate them. And there is no resource more precious than time. You think the HC, DC, and ST coaches taking a few hours out of their day recruiting a young man who has already decommitted, openly discussed bags, and needs diaper money is a great idea because "we never quit?" Grow up.

You think this is about feelings? Get out of yours. This is about opportunity cost and the value of time. Being able to efficiently disengage from targets that are highly unlikely to commit so you can maximize your chance of success with other (more likely) targets.

The best programs are either coldly efficient in their recruiting and management, increase their budgets so they can throw more man hours at recruiting and operations, or both. If we want to compete in recruiting, we need to be more efficient in recruiting. Allocating time wisely is critical.

We only have a couple of spots left. Time and resource management is not an issue here. Never quit isn't a Rudy story, it's a fact. Recruiting the kid until you can't recruit him anymore doesn't kill our budget or leave coaches with insufficient time to do the rest of their job. That is a self created fallacy of yours.

Plenty of hours in the day to see, text and call this kid and still do everything else you described as"more important". 99% of it is just phone and text anyway.

Spare me trying to turn this into a Rudy story. It's just grinding all day, every day. Just like every other staff out there

 

[Hoyacane1620]

Looks like we are hitting Cali with everyone this week:

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

We only have a couple of spots left. Time and resource management is not an issue here. Never quit isn't a Rudy story, it's a fact. Recruiting the kid until you can't recruit him anymore doesn't kill our budget or leave coaches with insufficient time to do the rest of their job. That is a self created fallacy of yours.

Plenty of hours in the day to see, text and call this kid and still do everything else you described as"more important". 99% of it is just phone and text anyway.

Spare me trying to turn this into a Rudy story. It's just grinding all day, every day. Just like every other staff out there

You realize there is a 2021 class to work on, right? And a 2022 class. Graduate transfers. New offense to implement. Defensive tweaks and adjustments that need to be made. Checking in on S&C. Hiring a WR coach. Monitoring grades. Making sure the new enrollees are adjusting. Film study. Staff meetings. Community outreach. Fundraising...

It doesn't stop. "Just grinding all day, every day," whatever that actually means, is not enough. They must do so intelligently and with a plan. Work smarter, not just harder. Spend the time where it is more ikely to have an impact and get you dividends on the field.

The notion that time is a limited resource and that there is always more to do isn't a fallacy. It's an every day fact of life.

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

i’m curious, if he does choose to attend the university of miami, how does your life/time theory play going forward? not a troll.

In that case, it might show the coaches had a better feel for the recruitment than I and many others did, and the continued allocation of their time to recruit him worked out and wasn't a total waste (at least for now). It does not change the fact that they could have been doing something else (potentially, something more impactful) for the program. But, at the very least, there would be some immediate, positive dividend to show for their time.

Personally, if we only have 2 spots left, a safety isn't high on my list (CB and OT please), but it beats having unused ICs come game day.

 

[Go Canes!!]

You realize there is a 2021 class to work on, right? And a 2022 class. Graduate transfers. New offense to implement. Defensive tweaks and adjustments that need to be made. Checking in on S&C. Hiring a WR coach. Monitoring grades. Making sure the new enrollees are adjusting. Film study. Staff meetings. Community outreach. Fundraising...

It doesn't stop. "Just grinding all day, every day," whatever that actually means, is not enough. They must do so intelligently and with a plan. Work smarter, not just harder. Spend the time where it is more ikely to have an impact and get you dividends on the field.

The notion that time is a limited resource and that there is always more to do isn't a fallacy. It's an every day fact of life.

The fact you think any of the things you just stated are in any way negatively affected by the time it takes to chase this ONE RECRUIT, like even 1%, makes me realize it’s time to end this.

You’re dying on this hill.

Agree to disagree.

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

The fact you think any of the things you just stated are in any way negatively affected by the time it takes to chase this ONE RECRUIT, like even 1%, makes me realize it’s time to end this.

You’re dying on this hill.

Agree to disagree.

The fact you fail to acknowledge time is a limited resource and every action has an opportunity cost associated with leads me to the same conclusion.

You're living in a fantasy land.

Agree to disagree.

 

[Mikep]

The fact you fail to acknowledge time is a limited resource and every action has an opportunity cost associated with leads me to the same conclusion.

You're living in a fantasy land.

Agree to disagree.

While your original post was funny, they can do all those things while there is a dead period. While they can recruit though, they might as well be recruiting....

 

[DBC]

We only have a couple of spots left. Time and resource management is not an issue here. Never quit isn't a Rudy story, it's a fact. Recruiting the kid until you can't recruit him anymore doesn't kill our budget or leave coaches with insufficient time to do the rest of their job. That is a self created fallacy of yours.

Plenty of hours in the day to see, text and call this kid and still do everything else you described as"more important". 99% of it is just phone and text anyway.

Spare me trying to turn this into a Rudy story. It's just grinding all day, every day. Just like every other staff out there

The morons here were calling out the staff for recruiting Knighton. "Fools, they are wasting their time" - idiot CIS "expert".

 

[PoppaTop]

If they didn't visit, we'd all be *****ing that they didn't even try. They probably know he's not coming - respect for trying to get him anyways.

 

[hoops156]

The morons here were calling out the staff for recruiting Knighton. "Fools, they are wasting their time" - idiot CIS "expert".

that was me. i ate crow on that one. im still really surprised by that pull bc that one seemed dead. good on the staff for continuing to recruit him

 

[hoops156]

If they didn't visit, we'd all be *****ing that they didn't even try. They probably know he's not coming - respect for trying to get him anyways.

i dont think tae is coming but stranger things have happened esp with last min visits. i still think he goes to UF tho esp with two kids at home