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RVACane said:
I need to go eat a skirt steak tonight.
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Does this count as skirt steak????? I'm gonna say yes....
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JeddTheFisch said:
1) Randy Shannon was a continuation of a failed regime. Ridiculous HC hire. He was given 4 years to continue the failure and did so;
2) Al Golden was given too much time. He failed;
3) Richt quit and had health issues. If he'd been younger, he would have gotten enough time;
4) Diaz arguably didn't get "enough time" in terms of years, but I don't think his consistently unprepared teams were going to change.

So, I do not agree that these coaches weren't given "enough time."
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I never said “time”. It’s not about Time per se. But every single coach has been fired the first sign of struggle. And if we’re being honest it had a lot to do with the fanbase and external pressures to make a move.

1.) Shannon went from 5-7..7-6..9-4. Last year lost his Starting QB in game 5 I believe had to rely on a TF QB down the stretch. Got axed after south FL loss at home..if Shannon isn’t fired like that Teddy bridge water is a hurricane.

2.) Golden took over with sanctions and was obviously misled about the severity. Went 6-6, 7-5, 9-4, 6-7..fire half way through his last year after the Clemson embarrassment..that 6-7 year again had to start a TF QB who came in fall camp due to a injury to a projected starter

3.) Manny diaz 6-7. 8-3. 7-6. Again last year loses his veteran QB early. Had to depend on a Freshman. Final nail in the coffin a loss to FSU on the road

Thats a clear pattern. And if you sit back and look at how the program was ran top to bottom. The infrastructure and investment was not up to par with the expectations based on our history of championships. That’s just a fact. That’s changed with the Hire of Mario along with what it demands top to bottom..but here we are with folk in this fan saying he can’t coach after 4 games year 1..as if it’s validation of who they wanted to stay or come be hired..and I’m not claiming Any one of Shannon, golden or Manny being Nick Saban or something..just pointing out a clear pattern. Mainly due to expectations. Our expectations have been high while we lacked on building the infrastructure to demand those results..that’s a dead end cycle that imo we are finally out of
 
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305to954 said:
I never said “time”. It’s not about Time per se. But every single coach has been fired the first sign of struggle. And if we’re being honest it had a lot to do with the fanbase and external pressures to make a move.

1.) Shannon went from 5-7..7-6..9-4. Last year lost his Starting QB in game 5 I believe had to rely on a TF QB down the stretch. Got axed after south FL loss at home..if Shannon isn’t fired like that Teddy bridge water is a hurricane.

2.) Golden took over with sanctions and was obviously misled about the severity. Went 6-6, 7-5, 9-4, 6-7..fire half way through his last year after the Clemson embarrassment..that 6-7 year again had to start a TF QB who came in fall camp due to a injury to a projected starter

3.) Manny diaz 6-7. 8-3. 7-6. Again last year loses his veteran QB early. Had to depend on a Freshman. Final nail in the coffin a loss to FSU on the road

Thats a clear pattern. And if you sit back and look at how the program was ran top to bottom. The infrastructure and investment was not up to par with the expectations based on our history of championships. That’s just a fact. That’s changed with the Hire of Mario along with what it demands top to bottom..but here we are with folk in this fan saying he can’t coach after 4 games year 1..as if it’s validation of who they wanted to stay or come be hired..and I’m not claiming Any one of Shannon, golden or Manny being Nick Saban or something..just pointing out a clear pattern. Mainly due to expectations. Our expectations have been high while we lacked on building the infrastructure to demand those results..that’s a dead end cycle that imo we are finally out of
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Read what you wrote in bold. Then read the rest of your post. They are mutually exclusive.
 
JeddTheFisch said:
Read what you wrote in bold. Then read the rest of your post. They are mutually exclusive.
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I don’t think they are. I’ll characterize it like this: In the coaches tenure I HL there was the honeymoon period (first 2 seasons) then Expectations of a jump (going into year 3) then the “we should go 10-3 11-2 with this roster returning”..and when that didn’t happen those coaches were out on the chopping block and a change was made..and btw each of those hires we went the cheap/easy route..so again we set these expectations knowing **** well the infrastructure as a whole presented a challenge to even come close to those expectations. It was a pattern. I know this is unpopular around here, but Personally I’m not all that moved about what happens year 1 under Mario. That’s because I know the investment and infrastructure is in place for success down the road..so all this the sky is falling going on in the fanbase is akin to a abused puppy who shakes when you try to pet it..a lot of folks here been battered for far too long lol
 
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Brooklyndee said:
Y'all are some of the most arrogant, dillusional, fairweather fans ever and I'm tired of this regurgitated nonsense. Some of y'all just are so miserable in your day-to-day lives that you come on here and try to rile up the rest of the geniuses. If you're actually stupid enough to believe that **** near 20 years worth of built up fvck **** is gonna disappear with the flick of a switch that's on nothing but you. Whether u have issues with clock management,with scheme or anything else it's simply a piece of a far larger problem. All off season you were warned not to just believe what anyone tells you. That we gotta develop these players. EVERY ONE OF THEM. As many bad habits as we have it takes time to switch. All this dumb **** about how coached aren't doing their job is stupid. Me I can't deal with all this complaining so I'll just keep my distance. Hopefully y'all get to the point you realize that misery is just toxic. If not is what it is. Be ez boys
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This is all true except tvd was never as good as people made him out to be.
 
305to954 said:
I never said “time”. It’s not about Time per se. But every single coach has been fired the first sign of struggle. And if we’re being honest it had a lot to do with the fanbase and external pressures to make a move.

1.) Shannon went from 5-7..7-6..9-4. Last year lost his Starting QB in game 5 I believe had to rely on a TF QB down the stretch. Got axed after south FL loss at home..if Shannon isn’t fired like that Teddy bridge water is a hurricane.

2.) Golden took over with sanctions and was obviously misled about the severity. Went 6-6, 7-5, 9-4, 6-7..fire half way through his last year after the Clemson embarrassment..that 6-7 year again had to start a TF QB who came in fall camp due to a injury to a projected starter

3.) Manny diaz 6-7. 8-3. 7-6. Again last year loses his veteran QB early. Had to depend on a Freshman. Final nail in the coffin a loss to FSU on the road

Thats a clear pattern. And if you sit back and look at how the program was ran top to bottom. The infrastructure and investment was not up to par with the expectations based on our history of championships. That’s just a fact. That’s changed with the Hire of Mario along with what it demands top to bottom..but here we are with folk in this fan saying he can’t coach after 4 games year 1..as if it’s validation of who they wanted to stay or come be hired..and I’m not claiming Any one of Shannon, golden or Manny being Nick Saban or something..just pointing out a clear pattern. Mainly due to expectations. Our expectations have been high while we lacked on building the infrastructure to demand those results..that’s a dead end cycle that imo we are finally out of
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TrumpyCane thinks maybe don’t have to rely on a TF QB your god**** 4th year on the job?

Btw that TF almost saved Manny’s *** but guess which part of the team ****ed it up royally? The one the HC was in charge off

Guess which part of Golden’s teams ****ed him? The defensive side which the sweaty **** had his hands all over
 
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TrumpyCane said:
TrumpyCane thinks maybe don’t have to rely on a TF QB your god**** 4th year on the job?

Btw that TF almost saved Manny’s *** but guess which part of the team ****ed it up royally? The one the HC was in charge off

Guess which part of Golden’s teams ****ed him? The defensive side which the sweaty **** had his hands all over
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Van dyke was a RS freshman

Injuries are the reason each of those coaches had to rely on Freshman QBs

My point still stands. And we are seeing it happen now even tho we have a proven HC and staff. Ppl are still pointing at the Coaches. From HC to position coaches to coordinators..all these guys are proven and we still see fanbase reacting being the same. Year one really doesn’t matter too me. I just want too see recruiting/better roster building and development year 1
 
This was 7/6 team last year who barely won at home vs APP State..lost at home vs UVA. Won at home vs NC state. Won on the road vs PITT..but lost to a terrible FSU team..point being they weren’t consistently playing winning football Week in week out…that, as the OP eluded too is a cultural issue..all this **** about “talent”. “Talent” gets you beat
 
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Cribby said:
I loved it there. Nashville too. I lived there for a few months back in my 20’s. If not for my moms health then I likely would’ve moved there permanently.
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'Boro resident here for the last two years and foreseeable future. Wife grew up here and was an important factor to making the move. It's big enough to have different things to do family oriented wise but small enough where nothing is too far. Proximity to Nashville, Franklin/Brentwood areas are also a nice plus. Enjoy all four seasons w/out any being way over the top for long.

That said, it sucks after the game. Gonna be a while before the colors can be worn publicly again LoL
 
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