If your a DC does Ryan Williams strike fear in your heart?

[Coach Macho]

My guess is he kills it with the short to intermediate routes, something we did not do this year.
The TE will reemerge as a weapon which will open up the offense.
All the best college QBs work the entire field something Morris either could not or would not do.

Our O̶C̶ QB didn't work the entire field.

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My guess is he kills it with the short to intermediate routes, something we did not do this year.
The TE will reemerge as a weapon which will open up the offense.
All the best college QBs work the entire field something Morris either could not or would not do.

Our O̶C̶ QB didn't work the entire field.

Keep telling yourself that was the real issue.

When Morris has had a primary read that involves the middle of the field, he's thrown there. (or looked there primarily)

 

[Coach Macho]

You don't think the offense will be better with Yearby,Powell,Braxton and maybe the Griffen kid added in the mix? How about a healthy Duke and Coley with another years experience and weight training? What about a QB who throws to the TEnds, slot receivers and the backs and picks up first downs and moves the chains? You can't teach vision and poise and Morris had none of these qualities. How about a 6'6 QB who can see over the line of scrimmage and understands the offense,still don't think this offense could be better? Williams does not have to be great to move this offense,just understand yards and distance and keep the chains moving. If Canes need 3 yards to get first down and four more downs, don't throw the ball 50 yards. Take what the defense gives you. I would bet the farm Williams is football smart and our screen game and short passing game will be vastly improved. Just move the **** chains and everything will take care of itself.

That's all fine and dandy but this year those options often weren't there. You can't rely on checkdowns, you have to create mismatches in the middle of the field and put intermediate defenders in a bind. We don't do that. We don't force LB's to cover slot WR's.

4th & 9 in the redzone and Coley calls all verticals. (which is what he does every 3rd & medium)

To me, it's plain to see, just watch other team's offenses against our defense. Notice how they throw the ball right next to our Linebackers? Ever notice how they run hitch routes next to Perryman, or dig routes behind Cornelius? WE DON'T DO THAT.

The routes aren't there for Morris to even look at. I just watched the whole game and rewound every play.

I haven't re-watched the bowl game because I'm not a glutton for punishment. I do remember many times throughout the season however where we had guys running free on digs and slants and even curls and they were not even looked at by our QB.

We run slants and curls?

 

[Coach Macho]

FWIW...

I do think Morris is a mental midget, but we ain't making things easy for him either.

 

[timepiece]

as bad as morris was williams still couldnt beat him out.. so no

 

[Cane Dynasty]

You don't think the offense will be better with Yearby,Powell,Braxton and maybe the Griffen kid added in the mix? How about a healthy Duke and Coley with another years experience and weight training? What about a QB who throws to the TEnds, slot receivers and the backs and picks up first downs and moves the chains? You can't teach vision and poise and Morris had none of these qualities. How about a 6'6 QB who can see over the line of scrimmage and understands the offense,still don't think this offense could be better? Williams does not have to be great to move this offense,just understand yards and distance and keep the chains moving. If Canes need 3 yards to get first down and four more downs, don't throw the ball 50 yards. Take what the defense gives you. I would bet the farm Williams is football smart and our screen game and short passing game will be vastly improved. Just move the **** chains and everything will take care of itself.

That's all fine and dandy but this year those options often weren't there. You can't rely on checkdowns, you have to create mismatches in the middle of the field and put intermediate defenders in a bind. We don't do that. We don't force LB's to cover slot WR's.

4th & 9 in the redzone and Coley calls all verticals. (which is what he does every 3rd & medium)

To me, it's plain to see, just watch other team's offenses against our defense. Notice how they throw the ball right next to our Linebackers? Ever notice how they run hitch routes next to Perryman, or dig routes behind Cornelius? WE DON'T DO THAT.

The routes aren't there for Morris to even look at. I just watched the whole game and rewound every play.

I haven't re-watched the bowl game because I'm not a glutton for punishment. I do remember many times throughout the season however where we had guys running free on digs and slants and even curls and they were not even looked at by our QB.

We run slants and curls?

Yes.

 

[MAGIC CITY CANE]

You don't think the offense will be better with Yearby,Powell,Braxton and maybe the Griffen kid added in the mix? How about a healthy Duke and Coley with another years experience and weight training? What about a QB who throws to the TEnds, slot receivers and the backs and picks up first downs and moves the chains? You can't teach vision and poise and Morris had none of these qualities. How about a 6'6 QB who can see over the line of scrimmage and understands the offense,still don't think this offense could be better? Williams does not have to be great to move this offense,just understand yards and distance and keep the chains moving. If Canes need 3 yards to get first down and four more downs, don't throw the ball 50 yards. Take what the defense gives you. I would bet the farm Williams is football smart and our screen game and short passing game will be vastly improved. Just move the **** chains and everything will take care of itself.

That's all fine and dandy but this year those options often weren't there. You can't rely on checkdowns, you have to create mismatches in the middle of the field and put intermediate defenders in a bind. We don't do that. We don't force LB's to cover slot WR's.

4th & 9 in the redzone and Coley calls all verticals. (which is what he does every 3rd & medium)

To me, it's plain to see, just watch other team's offenses against our defense. Notice how they throw the ball right next to our Linebackers? Ever notice how they run hitch routes next to Perryman, or dig routes behind Cornelius? WE DON'T DO THAT.

The routes aren't there for Morris to even look at. I just watched the whole game and rewound every play.

I haven't re-watched the bowl game because I'm not a glutton for punishment. I do remember many times throughout the season however where we had guys running free on digs and slants and even curls and they were not even looked at by our QB.

Man, I don't remember that basically the entire season. Whipple and Fisch designed plays where receivers were (fairly consistently) WIDE open. Watch Texas Tech or any other good passing teams. Seems unbelievable that guys are so wide open, so often. Outside deep balls early/mid season, I was struck by how that rarely happens in Coley's offense, as in it was shocking when it did.

 

[Pennmed Canefan]

One of the flipsides of the whole "Morris doesn't use the whole field" thing is that Williams probably won't either--he may not have the arm strength to involve the field outside of the opposite hash regularly. Morris could do that.

The concern with Williams is purely that he lacks tools. We've seen that, but not much else. You can make up for a lack of tools with intelligence and (mainly) anticipation. We frankly don't know whether he has those attributes--we only know that he lacks tools. Everybody who is tall, skinny, unathletic, and lacks arm strength isn't Dorsey. For every Dorsey there are several-fold more guys with those attributes that are bad.

If I had to predict I'd say Williams will be middling IF he starts and that is yet another reason why we will need a vast improvement defensively along with Duke coming back strong to be a factor.

 

[ibcanefan1]

I know Odogwa was raving about Williams and his knowledge of the offense on a post on this board. Williams can throw the deep ball but does not have a powerful arm. Would anyone like to wager that Williams will move the chains better and TOP will be much better next year? How about first downs? How about number of catches Duke,Yearby and Powell have next year compared to long ball Morris who never used his backs? How about TEnds? I bet we will see the TE numbers go up and the defense will be on the field less. Any takers?

 

[Coach Macho]

I know Odogwa was raving about Williams and his knowledge of the offense on a post on this board. Williams can throw the deep ball but does not have a powerful arm. Would anyone like to wager that Williams will move the chains better and TOP will be much better next year? How about first downs? How about number of catches Duke,Yearby and Powell have next year compared to long ball Morris who never used his backs? How about TEnds? I bet we will see the TE numbers go up and the defense will be on the field less. Any takers?

I'll take it, slappy.

 

[Pennmed Canefan]

I know Odogwa was raving about Williams and his knowledge of the offense on a post on this board. Williams can throw the deep ball but does not have a powerful arm. Would anyone like to wager that Williams will move the chains better and TOP will be much better next year? How about first downs? How about number of catches Duke,Yearby and Powell have next year compared to long ball Morris who never used his backs? How about TEnds? I bet we will see the TE numbers go up and the defense will be on the field less. Any takers?

So why didn't he start this year? This is another one of those "the coaches can't see that the backup who's never played is better" kind of things? No coach has ever given any indication that they were even considering Williams. It wasn't long ago that the coaches couldn't see that Morris was far better than Jacory.

I suspect the backs/TE's numbers will go up because Williams' strength is not going to be getting down the field. He'll checkdown far more often and the coaches will create plans that emphasize shorter throws. I therefore also suspect that there will be a dropoff in explosive plays down the field because it's not his strength. All in all, I don't expect an upgrade, just a different kind of quarterback.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

I know Odogwa was raving about Williams and his knowledge of the offense on a post on this board. Williams can throw the deep ball but does not have a powerful arm. Would anyone like to wager that Williams will move the chains better and TOP will be much better next year? How about first downs? How about number of catches Duke,Yearby and Powell have next year compared to long ball Morris who never used his backs? How about TEnds? I bet we will see the TE numbers go up and the defense will be on the field less. Any takers?

So why didn't he start this year? This is another one of those "the coaches can't see that the backup who's never played is better" kind of things? No coach has ever given any indication that they were even considering Williams. It wasn't long ago that the coaches couldn't see that Morris was far better than Jacory.

I suspect the backs/TE's numbers will go up because Williams' strength is not going to be getting down the field. He'll checkdown far more often and the coaches will create plans that emphasize shorter throws. I therefore also suspect that there will be a dropoff in explosive plays down the field because it's not his strength. All in all, I don't expect an upgrade, just a different kind of quarterback.

I count that as an upgrade.

Our TOP will go up. Our defensive scheme will be on the field less. Other teams defenses will have to play more. etc

 

[ibcanefan1]

You wont even man up and tell us where you coach. Slappy, is that what you do with your boys asses in the locker rooms? You no why this PE major wont say where he coaches, because when we check his name at the high school it will not be there. Just another want to be coach living on a message board hoping to put some worth on his miserable life.

 

[CaneAlmighty]

as bad as morris was williams still couldnt beat him out.. so no

And Morris supposedly couldn't beat out Harris yet ended up having a better year the year he took over.

Means nothing.

 

[lauderdaleballer]

as bad as morris was williams still couldnt beat him out.. so no

And Morris supposedly couldn't beat out Harris yet ended up having a better year the year he took over.

Means nothing.

I don't think you can compare the two seasons... We had a better rushing attack during Harris senior season and Harris was more accurate... I think Morris had like one more td than Harris and more yards but Harris performance against our toughest performances (KSU, VT,UVA, UNC) were better and those teams were better...

Two different players... Two different circumstances... That being said, you're setting yourself up for disappointment with the expectations you have for Williams...

 

[ibcanefan1]

Maybe Williams is not a 5 star QB and his arm is not star quality but he has something Morris never had guts. How many times did i see that chicken **** run out of bounds short of the marker. I am not talking 5 yards,one yard and he still was not going to sacrifice his body for the team. If Morris would have just showed the ability to take off and keep defenses honest it would have helped the OL and moved the chains. Now in fairness he was hurt longest part of the season but even when healthy he never showed poise and seldom showed any touch,especially the short passes. He butchered the screen game it was unbearable to watch. I like Williams size and if his football IQ is what some players say it is, i don't see how it can't be an improvement.

 

[mirvin88]

Williams strikes more fear than Morris. He can use more than 10% of the field

 

[The []_[]]

This program needs Olsen or Kaaya to step up and start this season.

 

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[sabrose]

DOnt forget that wonderful throw away whe could have run for close to a first down in the louisville game.