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The problem is UF didn't really use a lot of misdirection and played us straight up. However, they did use some motion on one play with an unbalanced look that resulted in Johnson having that long TD run. We need to get back to simplifying the defense so our guys can play fast. Knock off the **** stunting upfront and there's no ******* reason we should giving up the edge at this level of football.
 
The reality is that VT gave everyone the playbook on how to beat our defense. Our offense is loaded with potential NFL talent, but our defense severely lacks it. Us whiffing on DBs in the portal was a massive blow.

The best we're getting out of this defense is a Washington Type Defense, where the O is relied upon every game.

Also, even as bad as the D was against GT, they're not the main reason for the loss. Our offense was atrocious, and we had a chance to win were it not for Cam playing hero ball.
 
FL Cane said:
The reality is that VT gave everyone the playbook on how to beat our defense. Our offense is loaded with potential NFL talent, but our defense severely lacks it. Us whiffing on DBs in the portal was a massive blow.

The best we're getting out of this defense is a Washington Type Defense, where the O is relied upon every game.

Also, even as bad as the D was against GT, they're not the main reason for the loss. Our offense was atrocious, and we had a chance to win were it not for Cam playing hero ball.
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USF gave that away, but didn't have the depth to finish. VT was rinse and repeat with a few extra wrinkles.

3rd down and 4th down conversions cost us the game unfortunately.

I do think the defense can "improve". What I mean by that is.....they can communicate and get ******* lined up.
 
ristwasdown said:
USF gave that away, but didn't have the depth to finish. VT was rinse and repeat with a few extra wrinkles.

3rd down and 4th down conversions cost us the game unfortunately.

I do think the defense can "improve". What I mean by that is.....they can communicate and get ******* lined up.
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I agree, USF just didn't have the depth or talent to finish it.
 
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JHallCanes said:
The book is out on us unfortunately

The play UiF got their big TD is something almost every team has replicated at some point against us but they just do it more often now
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Same play we should utilize in our offense instead of running up Carpenter’s backside. ( no Diddy). Then maybe the defense can practice against it during the week and figure out how to stop it.
 
JayCane20 said:
I was talking to a friend who is more familiar with Guidry from Western Kentucky and Marshall. Knows people that worked on both staffs. He made the point that at Western Kentucky he had a starting DB who was almost completely deaf or mute. At Marshall he had the kid we tried to get to come here after he followed Guidry to Tulane and then went to LSU. He had a bad stutter and couldn't even communicate verbally on the field. Neither of those teams had any communication issues. It can't be that hard. Brain dead players is the most likely problem and that's just not going to be fixed.
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Bruh lock all Guidry threads and sticky this post (pause)
 
same thread as last year...y'all tenacious af
listen man - all that happened is we got film on us and ACC coaches arent stupid...thats it.
JUST LIKE LAST YEAR!
 
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Uf even got some yards early doing some motion stuff.. they just took dumb to keep spamming it and didn't really go back to it..
 
What I find kind of interesting is the defense is just getting murdered the last two weeks here and in the press. The reality is, they played well enough to win against GT. The offense just pooped the bed.
I’m not defending the defense. It’s just if you had told me that we wouldn’t score at least 35 to 42 on GT. I would’ve told you you were crazy.
 
hoops156 said:
guidry loves his stunts
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skyman said:
Uf even got some yards early doing some motion stuff.. they just took dumb to keep spamming it and didn't really go back to it..
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I think people just look at scores and not film sometimes.

This current UF team is not the same that we whooped, nor is our defense the same as it was that game. Teams can in fact get better or worse throughout a season. Their OL was a disaster against us, and it’s still not amazing but it’s better than in opening game of the season. That tends to happen when you shuffled around guys in the offseason and they now have developed a wee bit of continuity via reps.

Like most of you said, film is out on this defense and the lack of adjustments is very apparent, so OC’s keep doing the same thing over and over. I guarantee you if we played UF again this weekend, they’d score more points than they did in week 1. I’m not saying they’d beat us (they wouldn’t), but they’d look better.

But enough Gator talk, because this is about us. It’s more than just Alston or setting an edge. It’s about schematics, stunting, lack of in-game adjustments (despite everyone hooting and hollering three weeks ago that the defense always plays better in the 2H!!! LOL). We are playing DOG**** offenses and there are posters so engrained in the kool aid that they think a second half turnaround against Duke and Cal was something to celebrate. Something has to change this week, or we will lose first game of the playoff to pretty much whoever we play.

Honestly, I don’t expect much from Wake. This is not a good football team. There’s not much to gain from this. If we look “good”, it’s Wake. We’re 23 point favorites. If we look bad, then this will not get fixed at all in 2024. You can bet any amount of money on that.

If we do what we’re supposed to do, we’re going to get three consecutive games against three different offenses. The first is just a bad team. The second is a pass-happy team that has good weapons. The third (hopefully) is a mobile QB with a great OC. We shall see just how good Guidry is these next three weeks.

Btw, expect to be -10 against Syracuse next weekend.
 
skyman said:
Uf even got some yards early doing some motion stuff.. they just took dumb to keep spamming it and didn't really go back to it..
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The difference is we made a few stops early and points got put on the board by our offense. If our offense isn't on a fast start, the defense gets exposed. If the offense starts fast and gets a lead, the other team has to press and push the ball downfield. Plays into our strength to draw up pressure and play basic man coverage. No thinking, no open field tackling, and less gimmicky stuff that we fall for.

VT - all stalled out when we didn't go up 21-7. Defense played fine up to that point then we had a TD overturned for a "holding" then throw an interception and ends up 14-14. Defense never got it back right after that until they absolutely had to.

Cal - Offense was slow starting out. First 8 drives included 4 punts, a turnover on downs, a pick 6, and a FG. Did the defense no favors.

Louisville - Trading blows early, then up 24-14, defense looked good late in the 1st half and got a fumble recovery TD, then we have a horrible drive right before the half and go 3 and out. Let them get the ball back and kick a FG, then give up the kick return TD after the half, and then the offense fumbles in their territory and let them back in. The defense had no chance until they were forced to get stops or lose the game.

Duke - Defense opens the game with a 3 and out, interception, and another 3 and out. Up 14-0 and then we throw 3 times, all incomplete, punt, and then give them the ball back and it was completely different from that point until we dominated the second half.

In 3 of 4 of these games, I felt we were 1 more good offensive drive, (early in the game) from ending it and going into a blowout and letting the defense pin their ears back and play to their strength. As good as the offense has been, they haven't done our defense many favors. Maybe its a mentality, maybe its losing focus, maybe its the coaches, idk. The defense hasn't been good enough but the offense needs to help them going forward by ending games when the chance is there. Get a killer instinct. Go up 21-7 on VT, they fold and its over. Go up 21-0 on Duke, they fold and its over. Go up 31-14 on Louisville, don't give them a chance to score before the half, they fold, and its over. Then, we get the ball back after half, score (which we did) and go up 38-14 and it ends up 63-28 instead of 52-45.
 
Coach Macho said:
It's the same exact defense, there's just more tape on us now... (thus easier to exploit weaknesses)
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Am I wrong to think passing off motion & shifting strength of defense would be very helpful? Or do you get the impression they value match-ups much more?
 
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Coach Macho said:
It's the same exact defense, there's just more tape on us now... (thus easier to exploit weaknesses)
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Nope. Guidry has been holding this defense back all year after this game

Biding his time until we really had our backs against the wall to bring it back

denzel washington checkers GIF
 
JayCane20 said:
The difference is we made a few stops early and points got put on the board by our offense. If our offense isn't on a fast start, the defense gets exposed. If the offense starts fast and gets a lead, the other team has to press and push the ball downfield. Plays into our strength to draw up pressure and play basic man coverage. No thinking, no open field tackling, and less gimmicky stuff that we fall for.

VT - all stalled out when we didn't go up 21-7. Defense played fine up to that point then we had a TD overturned for a "holding" then throw an interception and ends up 14-14. Defense never got it back right after that until they absolutely had to.

Cal - Offense was slow starting out. First 8 drives included 4 punts, a turnover on downs, a pick 6, and a FG. Did the defense no favors.

Louisville - Trading blows early, then up 24-14, defense looked good late in the 1st half and got a fumble recovery TD, then we have a horrible drive right before the half and go 3 and out. Let them get the ball back and kick a FG, then give up the kick return TD after the half, and then the offense fumbles in their territory and let them back in. The defense had no chance until they were forced to get stops or lose the game.

Duke - Defense opens the game with a 3 and out, interception, and another 3 and out. Up 14-0 and then we throw 3 times, all incomplete, punt, and then give them the ball back and it was completely different from that point until we dominated the second half.

In 3 of 4 of these games, I felt we were 1 more good offensive drive, (early in the game) from ending it and going into a blowout and letting the defense pin their ears back and play to their strength. As good as the offense has been, they haven't done our defense many favors. Maybe its a mentality, maybe its losing focus, maybe its the coaches, idk. The defense hasn't been good enough but the offense needs to help them going forward by ending games when the chance is there. Get a killer instinct. Go up 21-7 on VT, they fold and its over. Go up 21-0 on Duke, they fold and its over. Go up 31-14 on Louisville, don't give them a chance to score before the half, they fold, and its over. Then, we get the ball back after half, score (which we did) and go up 38-14 and it ends up 63-28 instead of 52-45.
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This. zero complimentary football has been played all season consistently. Every now and again we will have a few drives where 2 out of 3 phases clicks. But very seldom has all 3 been sound.
 
kccanefan said:
The problem is UF didn't really use a lot of misdirection and played us straight up. However, they did use some motion on one play with an unbalanced look that resulted in Johnson having that long TD run. We need to get back to simplifying the defense so our guys can play fast. Knock off the **** stunting upfront and there's no ******* reason we should giving up the edge at this level of football.
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Not making excuses for all the stunting and blitzing but the lack of straight up pass rush when we play somewhat conservative is terrifying

Probably why everyone was confused when Pickett had that sack like what in the **** was that
 
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