If Golden can't turn it around, no one will.

[HTownCane71305]

I said this when he was hired. Has nothing to do with his ability as a coach, simply the fact that, whoever the guy was after Shannon, if they couldn't get it done it might be gone forever. Too many years of irrelevance. Today's recruits have no memory of the Canes ever being anything but a laughing stock. Cant trade on UM history and "all about the U" bull**** anymore. Price to get an elite coach that could turn around is too high. We all know Miami is not going to pay five million a year for a coach. If Golden doesn't turn it around next year then it's over. No A or B list coach will take this job because at this point it's a **** job. Firing Golden and bringing in someone else on the cheap won't fix a thing.

Yeah tell Pete Carroll that after all the coaches USC went through over a 20 year period. Tell Bob Stoops that after OU stunk for 10 years. Even Bama, between Stallings and Saban. Get a coach in here that can coach and you'll have good results. It's not like we are in the SEC and are taking it on the chin every week. The 9 games we won were pretty much gimmies.

OU hasn't won ****

 

[CanesAreAble]

The only question is, are the powers that be interested in winning.

That isn't the issue.

The program was committed to winning when they fired Coker only four years after back-to-back championships*. They were committed to winning when they fired Shannon one year after giving him an extension and then hired arguably the hottest up-and-coming coach at the time.

The problem isn't commitment to winning. The problem is hiring the RIGHT guy. Who is that guy? You can't really know until after 3-4 years.

I haven't given up on Golden, but he's officially on the clock. I gave Shannon 3.5 years, so Golden gets that from me.

 

[Southcane]

I said this when he was hired. Has nothing to do with his ability as a coach, simply the fact that, whoever the guy was after Shannon, if they couldn't get it done it might be gone forever. Too many years of irrelevance. Today's recruits have no memory of the Canes ever being anything but a laughing stock. Cant trade on UM history and "all about the U" bull**** anymore. Price to get an elite coach that could turn around is too high. We all know Miami is not going to pay five million a year for a coach. If Golden doesn't turn it around next year then it's over. No A or B list coach will take this job because at this point it's a **** job. Firing Golden and bringing in someone else on the cheap won't fix a thing.

Yeah tell Pete Carroll that after all the coaches USC went through over a 20 year period. Tell Bob Stoops that after OU stunk for 10 years. Even Bama, between Stallings and Saban. Get a coach in here that can coach and you'll have good results. It's not like we are in the SEC and are taking it on the chin every week. The 9 games we won were pretty much gimmies.

Not that I agree with OP, but you are making his argument for him. OP said Miami won't pay 5 million a year to get a great coach, and you bring Pete Carroll, Bob Stoops and Saban into the conversation?LOL Each one of those coaches you mentioned was paid 4.5 million or more. So, thanks for the analysis.

 

[cubin10]

Every big time program in the country will always will be a great hire away from being competitive. Miami is no different. The only question is, are the powers that be interested in winning.

Only on their own terms

 

[miamimike]

An intelligent, competent QB will change this program over night. Steven Morris was awful. Awful. We played offense using about 20% of the available space on a football field because our QB was incapable of attacking the rest.

A good QB will sustain drives, make the OL, his receivers and the defense look better. A real QB improves this team considerably. Tweaking the rest improves it by that much more.

Williams will be a critical transition to Kaaya, Rosier, or Olsen. One of the young guys will probably be starting by the end of the next season - depending on Williams performance or an injury.

I agree totally with this post. I think SM is/was far far worse than anybody realizes. You can't win with him. Not answer for every problem but he was the biggest problem IMO.

 

[AUcane]

Jesus Mary and Joseph, now Alvin has turned into the only guy in football that can turn this program around?! It's really amazing some of the things I read here.

 

[aintnothangbutacane]

Money doesn't guarantee you anything. There are only so many Sabans and Urban Meyers.

Briles, Franklin, etc. were found by programs who arent exactly known for winning big and luring name coaches

 

[The Franchise]

I said this when he was hired. Has nothing to do with his ability as a coach, simply the fact that, whoever the guy was after Shannon, if they couldn't get it done it might be gone forever. Too many years of irrelevance. Today's recruits have no memory of the Canes ever being anything but a laughing stock. Cant trade on UM history and "all about the U" bull**** anymore. Price to get an elite coach that could turn around is too high. We all know Miami is not going to pay five million a year for a coach. If Golden doesn't turn it around next year then it's over. No A or B list coach will take this job because at this point it's a **** job. Firing Golden and bringing in someone else on the cheap won't fix a thing.

Yeah tell Pete Carroll that after all the coaches USC went through over a 20 year period. Tell Bob Stoops that after OU stunk for 10 years. Even Bama, between Stallings and Saban. Get a coach in here that can coach and you'll have good results. It's not like we are in the SEC and are taking it on the chin every week. The 9 games we won were pretty much gimmies.

Not that I agree with OP, but you are making his argument for him. OP said Miami won't pay 5 million a year to get a great coach, and you bring Pete Carroll, Bob Stoops and Saban into the conversation?LOL Each one of those coaches you mentioned was paid 4.5 million or more. So, thanks for the analysis.

Nothing funnier than when a guy tries to be condescending and doesn't know what the fck he's talking about. Carroll had to beg USC for that job. He was their 5th choice, and he wasn't paid well until AFTER he started winning. UM has no problem at all paying guys competitive salaries after they prove themselves. Stoops was a first time HC when he took the OU job and was not paid anywhere near $4.5 when he got that job.

 

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“@CanesFan439: @michaelirvin88 @WarrenSapp can U guys please put an end to this fire Coach Golden garbage that trending”thts the stupidest

 

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“@CanesFan439: @michaelirvin88 @WarrenSapp can U guys please put an end to this fire Coach Golden garbage that trending”thts the stupidest

 

[FullyERicht]

Starting to believe the conspiracy theorist around here who argue the admin doesn't care about winning MNCs; that they just want to field a competitive football team that doesn't embarrass the university by getting in trouble on or off the football field.

A really good coach doesn't "COST" a university a dime.

He earns his own keep and lots more.

Dumbass administrators never took Economics 101.

How is a fact a conspiracy. They didn't plan on ruining the program. But bc of the move to the ACC we no longer NEED the program to be elite in order to pay for the rest of the athletics. There is no incentive anymore, and given the hurdles one must jump to field a competitive team, let alone one at a school trying to be Duke II, isn't worth the trouble to them.

 

[wacane]

Completely disagree with the OP. As long as UM is located in coral gables the opportunity to be elite will always be there. I am worried if Blake James has any idea how to hire someone. I sure hope so. He's unproven

 

[bandhammer]

I said this when he was hired. Has nothing to do with his ability as a coach, simply the fact that, whoever the guy was after Shannon, if they couldn't get it done it might be gone forever. Too many years of irrelevance. Today's recruits have no memory of the Canes ever being anything but a laughing stock. Cant trade on UM history and "all about the U" bull**** anymore. Price to get an elite coach that could turn around is too high. We all know Miami is not going to pay five million a year for a coach. If Golden doesn't turn it around next year then it's over. No A or B list coach will take this job because at this point it's a **** job. Firing Golden and bringing in someone else on the cheap won't fix a thing.

Yeah tell Pete Carroll that after all the coaches USC went through over a 20 year period. Tell Bob Stoops that after OU stunk for 10 years. Even Bama, between Stallings and Saban. Get a coach in here that can coach and you'll have good results. It's not like we are in the SEC and are taking it on the chin every week. The 9 games we won were pretty much gimmies.

OU hasn't won ****

Uh, did you miss the 2000 season?

 

[frostycane]

And OU is always in the top 15. There isn't much more you can ask for than what Stoops provides. He always fields a very good team. He has proven he is a good coach, even though we would have run him off LONG ago because he doesn't win MNC's. I just wonder what you guys would have done to an Ericson or JJ had the interwebs been around back then. I mean those guys didn't win MNC's every yr. So you must've been super ****ed when they lost games those seasons that they did not win. I am sure that whoever we lost to in any of their seasons we were a better team.

Please don't think I am sticking up for the current regime, but there are some that have been ****ting on this hire since the day he showed up and have been trying to throw rocks at him to make themselves look right, because some would rather be 'right' then support the team. I think we do need a makeover on Defense, I also will not miss SM. Watch the games, he almost NEVER looks off the safeties, and goes to more than his primary read. Awesome arm talent, but Coley ****ed him all up. To be honest, I am more worried about Coley than D'onofrio. I saw enough good calls on D where the player didn't make the play, but on O we were atrocious at times. Can't run for crap, passing game is OBVIOUS at best. The thing was that everyone was so focused on the D that we kinda gave the O a pass. Look at our losses and our close games, the O sucked in those games.

 

[Dandycane]

And OU is always in the top 15. There isn't much more you can ask for than what Stoops provides. He always fields a very good team. He has proven he is a good coach, even though we would have run him off LONG ago because he doesn't win MNC's. I just wonder what you guys would have done to an Ericson or JJ had the interwebs been around back then. I mean those guys didn't win MNC's every yr. So you must've been super ****ed when they lost games those seasons that they did not win. I am sure that whoever we lost to in any of their seasons we were a better team.

Please don't think I am sticking up for the current regime, but there are some that have been ****ting on this hire since the day he showed up and have been trying to throw rocks at him to make themselves look right, because some would rather be 'right' then support the team. I think we do need a makeover on Defense, I also will not miss SM. Watch the games, he almost NEVER looks off the safeties, and goes to more than his primary read. Awesome arm talent, but Coley ****ed him all up. To be honest, I am more worried about Coley than D'onofrio. I saw enough good calls on D where the player didn't make the play, but on O we were atrocious at times. Can't run for crap, passing game is OBVIOUS at best. The thing was that everyone was so focused on the D that we kinda gave the O a pass. Look at our losses and our close games, the O sucked in those games.

when we finally get a QB with a brain larger than a pea, the OC will look alot better.....the OL would look a **** of alot better with a QB with pocket presence too.

 

[Hegemon]

More melodrama. Every major program in the country has had longer down periods than we are currently in and rebounded to win NCs with the right HC.

+1

 

[Gatorhater]

THE U actaully paid Howard real good money for that day to get him. We were nothing before him, nothing. Unfortuantely, Howard was an amazingly qualified coach. Finding someone like him would be almost impossible. JJ resume was like a junior high school kid compared to Howard's. But the man and the moment has to come together for a return to our glory. What we had has occurred only a couple times in college history. OU under Wikerson, The Bear and Saban at Bama, ND way back, and USC back in student body right days. That long time of the championship is ours and you take it over our dead lifeless bodies. And none of those other ones were done with more than one coach. We did it with 4, two great, one ok, and one crappy.

I have lost a lot of confidience in Al because he seems **** bent on his defense in the face of repeated failures. However, I never thought Butch was much of a coach either. Al's recruiting is the best we have seen in a long time. He does need to land more Duke and Tracy level players to be considered a great recruiter, but he beat the pants off Coaker and Randy. If he holds this class together and lines up another good one next year, then we are in position to say good bye and bring in a better "coach" as HC with OC and DC that can put in better schemes.

If PSU is dumb enough to offer Al and he takes it, then grab Chud or Gred and rock-n-roll with what we have. I am fine with either. We should get nice payout if Golden leave early and have some cash for one of them. We are paying Coley and Mark over a half million each now -- that is decent money for OC and DC.

 

[bozcane]

Bama spent decades being irrelevant and then poof, it happens. Takes horses, and the right guy. For better or worse Golden has already happened and we'll soon see if he's the right guy.

Meanwhile, the first whopper talent class in years in en route, and if the rest of the commits stick (in addition to the EE guys) a key ingredient - talent - will have happened to stir the mix. We could be closer than we think, as all of us are suffering post late season sh*t-the-bed syndrome.

 

[HTownCane71305]

I said this when he was hired. Has nothing to do with his ability as a coach, simply the fact that, whoever the guy was after Shannon, if they couldn't get it done it might be gone forever. Too many years of irrelevance. Today's recruits have no memory of the Canes ever being anything but a laughing stock. Cant trade on UM history and "all about the U" bull**** anymore. Price to get an elite coach that could turn around is too high. We all know Miami is not going to pay five million a year for a coach. If Golden doesn't turn it around next year then it's over. No A or B list coach will take this job because at this point it's a **** job. Firing Golden and bringing in someone else on the cheap won't fix a thing.

Yeah tell Pete Carroll that after all the coaches USC went through over a 20 year period. Tell Bob Stoops that after OU stunk for 10 years. Even Bama, between Stallings and Saban. Get a coach in here that can coach and you'll have good results. It's not like we are in the SEC and are taking it on the chin every week. The 9 games we won were pretty much gimmies.

OU hasn't won ****

Uh, did you miss the 2000 season?

You know what year we're in?