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2023 Hykeem Williams, 2023 WR (signs w/ Forfeit State)

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CT Cane 44 said:
And even though we have sucked we still have recruited well. They will also. Like it or not kids wanna go there as do kids with Miami. I swear this board sounds like Gators board sometimes.
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Exactly! I swear we are still getting top WRs every year. You would think fsu is racking in top 5 recruiting classes every year but we are in the 90’s. No, even for bad classes we are pulling in top 20 classes
 
DTP said:
Typical sorry coach slurper. Blame all the players. Even guys who have proven it on the field already. No, it’s not the new coach’s fault this offense went from over 30 points per game to 19 with a majority of the same players. It’s the players who just decided to get worse.
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Which of these wide receivers have proven it on the field yet outside of a few decent catches? Lmao what are you talking about

I understand TVD, maybe, but just because he’s missing open throws doesn’t mean it’s because of playcalling. Could he be struggling to adjust to a new system? Sure, but that excuse only gets you so far.

Before this new staff got here, he didn’t even have these WRs’ PHONE NUMBERS.

So only the coaches are the ones who can be bad, right? Everyone complaining about how desperate we are for WRs, yet it’s all on playcalling.

There are already several videos out there demonstrating how many plays failed due to lack of execution. It’s literally plain as day, but blaming playcalling is just the easiest thing to do without digging into what actually happened. The numbers don’t support the notion that it’s all on playcalling.
 
DTP said:
Lol. The revisionist history? We had a very solid run game in 2020 and halfway through 2021 before every running back besides knighton got hurt. 34 points per game and 450 yards per game in 2020 with no TVD.

And his offense never went an entire game without scoring a single touchdown. It took Gattis sorry *** only three games to hit that low point.

You want to trash our best coordinator since the 90’s? Go for it but don’t tell me the garbage we have now is better.
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Again, there were several plays that likely would have either scored or been within yards if not for drops or missed throws. If you can find some way to still blame that on playcalling, then I’m not sure there’s much real discussion to be had here. If you want to hold Gattis accountable for not having these guys catch better or run sharper routes, I am all for that. In fact I would agree with you on that.

Anyway, I guess this isn’t really the thread/board to discuss this. Some people clearly are going to argue whatever fits their narrative so I’ll let y’all have it. 😂 On the other hand, I’ll keep watching our WRs drop balls and QB miss throws.. but hopefully that improves.
 
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Ghandi said:
For the record, my favorite WR in this class is ****ey.

He’s big and can separate from most corners. He also has an insane amount of acceleration for a guy that big. Not sure he’s a top-end speed guy.

Too bad he seems sold on Oregon
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Idk man, we'll see when they lose outright to Wazzu today :sideeyes:

I think you're right but i'll hold out hope...we definitely have to outbid them to even have a sniff of a chance.
 
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arinand1 said:
Again, there were several plays that likely would have either scored or been within yards if not for drops or missed throws. If you can find some way to still blame that on playcalling, then I’m not sure there’s much real discussion to be had here. If you want to hold Gattis accountable for not having these guys catch better or run sharper routes, I am all for that. In fact I would agree with you on that.

Anyway, I guess this isn’t really the thread/board to discuss this. Some people clearly are going to argue whatever fits their narrative so I’ll let y’all have it. 😂 On the other hand, I’ll keep watching our WRs drop balls and QB miss throws.. but hopefully that improves.
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There’s more to being an offensive coordinator than play calling. It’s your job to make sure your players can execute the plays you call. You tailor your offense to the strength of your team. Also since the receivers can’t catch, maybe we should question the WR coach’s abilities? Oh wait.
 
WeBallinBoyz said:
Idk man, we'll see when they lose outright to Wazzu today :sideeyes:

I think you're right but i'll hold out hope...we definitely have to outbid them to even have a sniff of a chance.
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they just smoked a ranked BYU. they'll be fine and Lanning is recruiting well out there
 
DTP said:
There’s more to being an offensive coordinator than play calling. It’s your job to make sure your players can execute the plays you call. You tailor your offense to the strength of your team. Also since the receivers can’t catch, maybe we should question the WR coach’s abilities? Oh wait.
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I think Armstrong is gong through the same stuff. he looks nowhere close to the guy from last year
 
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arinand1 said:
Again, there were several plays that likely would have either scored or been within yards if not for drops or missed throws. If you can find some way to still blame that on playcalling, then I’m not sure there’s much real discussion to be had here. If you want to hold Gattis accountable for not having these guys catch better or run sharper routes, I am all for that. In fact I would agree with you on that.

Anyway, I guess this isn’t really the thread/board to discuss this. Some people clearly are going to argue whatever fits their narrative so I’ll let y’all have it. 😂 On the other hand, I’ll keep watching our WRs drop balls and QB miss throws.. but hopefully that improves.
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you know if it keeps happening, eventually the problem isnt the players but it falls on the coaches for not correcting the issues (whether mechanical for a QB or fundamental for receivers)
 
hoops156 said:
they just smoked a ranked BYU. they'll be fine and Lanning is recruiting well out there
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I honestly don't think BYU is very good, they were also missing their top two receivers. Baylor wasn't a top 10 team, they struggle to push the ball downfield and are one of the worst teams thus far in 2022 in terms of explosive plays.

Bo Nix in his career has good numbers at home, and yet has a 16:16 TD:INT ratio on the road. Maybe it's the SEC defenses, but Cam Ward is filth, the Wazzu D-line ain't too shabby...just watch out. Wouldn't be shocked at all if they win this one.

1-2 would not sit well in Eugene, especially running 2nd fiddle to their little brothers in Corvallis currently.
 
WeBallinBoyz said:
I honestly don't think BYU is very good, they were also missing their top two receivers. Baylor wasn't a top 10 team, they struggle to push the ball downfield and are one of the worst teams thus far in 2022 in terms of explosive plays.

Bo Nix in his career has good numbers at home, and yet has a 16:16 TD:INT ratio on the road. Cam Ward is filth, the Wazzu D-line ain't too shabby...just watch out. Wouldn't be shocked at all if they win this one.
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I dont disagree. im just saying perception wise, they beat a ranked BYU team. no one on the outside will hyper analyze it
 
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this kid is going to FSU to play WR...

We can trash Mario/Gattis and their offense all we want but this kid chose FSU, Norvell, and that offense with no QB...

He may not like our offense but he's dumb if he thinks he's going to have great success in FSU's offense.
 
Yoyo82 said:
this kid is going to FSU to play WR...

We can trash Mario/Gattis and their offense all we want but this kid chose FSU, Norvell, and that offense with no QB...

He may not like our offense but he's dumb if he thinks he's going to have great success in FSU's offense.
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no one said he made a smart move. recruiting is selling. FSU so far has sold him better than we have. results are the only thing that matters.
 
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lauderdaleballer said:
Well I don’t know about that poster. But there were people on this site comparing him to Moss haha.
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thats hyperbolic too. which 17 year old kid isnt fully developed? hint: all of them lol. hes got talent to become a great WR. the rest is on the coaching staff in college to get it out of him. thats what good coaches do. I wouldn't say he made a good decision choosing dugans since we saw how his individual coaching and his WR room has looked, but if hes sold on it, hes sold on it. thats that. they won the battle by out recruiting us and selling their ****** offense better than gattis and co did.
 
hoops156 said:
thats hyperbolic too. which 17 year old kid isnt fully developed? hint: all of them lol. hes got talent to become a great WR. the rest is on the coaching staff in college to get it out of him. thats what good coaches do. I wouldn't say he made a good decision choosing dugans since we saw how his individual coaching and his WR room has looked, but if hes sold on it, hes sold on it. thats that. they won the battle by out recruiting us and selling their ****** offense better than gattis and co did.
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That’s what I’m saying. When they thought he was coming here he was Moss now that he committed FSU people are singing a new song. Yes all freshmen need some form of development. That’s why I remain consistent with my stance. However, I still think he is a talented p5 recruit. I don’t like Dugans either but overall fsu has been doing well. They clearly lack talent but they have done well. And some kids are just fans of one of the big 3 no matter what. We got Duke when his mom didn’t want him to come. Look at Kelly too. He just love the school. FSU and UF are going to get the same die hard recruits too.
 
lauderdaleballer said:
That’s what I’m saying. When they thought he was coming here he was Moss now that he committed FSU people are singing a new song. Yes all freshmen need some form of development. That’s why I remain consistent with my stance. However, I still think he is a talented p5 recruit. I don’t like Dugans either but overall fsu has been doing well. They clearly lack talent but they have done well. And some kids are just fans of one of the big 3 no matter what. We got Duke when his mom didn’t want him to come. Look at Kelly too. He just love the school. FSU and UF are going to get the same die hard recruits too.
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kelly was a Mario follow I thought - he was gonna go to Oregon if Mario had stayed from what I remember.

I agree with you though. and yes FSU so far has looked much improved. they lack talent but they're def better than I expected
 
GrozDozer said:
CuminGaytors and ****TouchPenis what was Lashlees signature win? What did he do for us again?
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You seem to be an expert on *** guzzling and penises. You must have sucked on quite an array of sausages in your lifetime. It would explain why you’re so infatuated with dyck, just like the Gayta ***aloons.

Under Lashlee we had the highest scoring offense we’ve had in years. Year one we struggled in big games because he and King were not a good fit. King seemed to struggle in his system, as did TVD at first. But once TVD spoke to him and asked him to adjust the offense to his preferred plays, the offense lit it up. I wish that King would have done the same. He probably would have had way better numbers than he did, and led us to more wins.

The moral of this story is that Lashlee was flexible enough to adjust his scheme for the success of the team. Don’t think that Mario and Gattis will do the same.

But of course, you wouldn’t care. You think that everything is great with Gattis’s scheme.
 
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