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Gamineal

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jerome brown started the trend in 87......after Vince in 04...( funny when our slide started) we have no solid play maker Dts...Golden needs to spend all his time looking for a STUD DT and stop going on every TV and radio.....

You guys know our history....huge Dts take over games disrupt game plans and make AVG players look like NFL guys..see the 00-03 team at DB and LB...guys all made great plays due to solid DT play....Just my thoughts on a cool wed morning

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Miami_Hurricanes_in_the_NFL

you can see other areas that dropped off as well...we are not a loaded team as some think....get a couple Stud DT and those others get better real fast....


Cortez Kennedy #*~ (8x ProBowler) (Pro Football Hall of Fame) - Drafted in the 1st round in the 1990 NFL Draft as the 3rd pick by the Seattle Seahawks (1990–2000).
Jimmie Jones - Drafted in the 3rd round in the 1990 NFL Draft as the 64th pick by the Dallas Cowboys (1990–1993), Los Angeles Rams/St. Louis Rams (1994–1996), and the Philadelphia Eagles (1997).
Russell Maryland #* (1x ProBowler) - Drafted in the 1st round of the 1991 NFL Draft as the 1st pick by the Dallas Cowboys (1991–1995), also played for the Oakland Raiders (1996–1999), and the Green Bay Packers (2000).
Warren Sapp #* (7x ProBowler) (Pro Football Hall of Fame) - Drafted in the 1st round of the 1995 NFL Draft as the 12th pick by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1995–2003), also played for the Oakland Raiders (2004–2007).
Damione Lewis # - Drafted in the 1st round of the 2001 NFL Draft as the 12th pick by the St. Louis Rams (2001–2005), also played for the Carolina Panthers (2006–2009), and the Houston Texans (2010).
William Joseph # - Drafted in the 1st round of the 2003 NFL Draft as the 25th pick by the New York Giants (2003–2007), and also played for the Oakland Raiders (2008–2010).
Vince Wilfork # (5x ProBowler) - Drafted in the 1st round of the 2004 NFL Draft as the 21st pick by the New England Patriots (2004–present).
Orien Harris - Drafted in the 4th round of the 2006 NFL Draft as the 133rd pick by the Pittsburgh Steelers (2006), also played for the Cleveland Browns (2006), Buffalo Bills (2007), New Orleans Saints (2007), Cincinnati Bengals (2008), St. Louis Rams (2009), Detroit Lions (2009), Cincinnati Bengals (2009) and in the United Football League for the Virginia Destroyers (2011).
Kareem Brown - Drafted in the 4th round of the 2007 NFL Draft as the 127th pick by the New England Patriots (2007), also played for the New York Jets (2007–2008), New York Giants (2009), and the Tennessee Titans (2009–2010). Current member of the Miami Hurricanes Football coaching staff as a defensive graduate assistant.
Antonio Dixon - Undrafted in the 2009 NFL Draft signed as a free agent by the Washington Redskins (did not play), and then the Philadelphia Eagles (2009–2012). Current FREE AGENT.
Dwayne Hendricks - Undrafted in the 2010 NFL Draft signed as a free agent by the New York Giants (2009–2011) and currently plays in the Arena League for the Arizona Rattlers (2013-present).
Joe Joseph - Undrafted in the 2010 NFL Draft signed as a free agent by the Tennessee Titans (2010), also played for the Washington Redskins (2010).
Marcus Forston - Undrafted in the 2012 NFL Draft signed as a free agent by the New England Patriots (2012-present).
Micanor Regis - Undrafted in the 2012 NFL Draft signed as a free agent by the Atlanta Falcons (2012). Current FREE AGENT.
 
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ball915 said:
This is what happens when you have Jethro Franklin as your DL coach
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Tell me who has an explosive second step at defensive tackle that is currently on the roster? The last kid Miami had with that type of potential was Marcus Forston and he could not stay healthy and when he was healthy he took too many plays off. That kid had All-American potential, but that's not enough. Valentine and Moten are must signs.
 
Gamineal said:
jerome brown started the trend in 87......after Vince in 04...( funny when our slide started) we have no solid play maker Dts...Golden needs to spend all his time looking for a STUD DT and stop going on every TV and radio.....

You guys know our history....huge Dts take over games disrupt game plans and make AVG players look like NFL guys..see the 00-03 team at DB and LB...guys all made great plays due to solid DT play....Just my thoughts on a cool wed morning

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Miami_Hurricanes_in_the_NFL

you can see other areas that dropped off as well...we are not a loaded team as some think....get a couple Stud DT and those others get better real fast....


Cortez Kennedy #*~ (8x ProBowler) (Pro Football Hall of Fame) - Drafted in the 1st round in the 1990 NFL Draft as the 3rd pick by the Seattle Seahawks (1990–2000).
Jimmie Jones - Drafted in the 3rd round in the 1990 NFL Draft as the 64th pick by the Dallas Cowboys (1990–1993), Los Angeles Rams/St. Louis Rams (1994–1996), and the Philadelphia Eagles (1997).
Russell Maryland #* (1x ProBowler) - Drafted in the 1st round of the 1991 NFL Draft as the 1st pick by the Dallas Cowboys (1991–1995), also played for the Oakland Raiders (1996–1999), and the Green Bay Packers (2000).
Warren Sapp #* (7x ProBowler) (Pro Football Hall of Fame) - Drafted in the 1st round of the 1995 NFL Draft as the 12th pick by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1995–2003), also played for the Oakland Raiders (2004–2007).
Damione Lewis # - Drafted in the 1st round of the 2001 NFL Draft as the 12th pick by the St. Louis Rams (2001–2005), also played for the Carolina Panthers (2006–2009), and the Houston Texans (2010).
William Joseph # - Drafted in the 1st round of the 2003 NFL Draft as the 25th pick by the New York Giants (2003–2007), and also played for the Oakland Raiders (2008–2010).
Vince Wilfork # (5x ProBowler) - Drafted in the 1st round of the 2004 NFL Draft as the 21st pick by the New England Patriots (2004–present).
Orien Harris - Drafted in the 4th round of the 2006 NFL Draft as the 133rd pick by the Pittsburgh Steelers (2006), also played for the Cleveland Browns (2006), Buffalo Bills (2007), New Orleans Saints (2007), Cincinnati Bengals (2008), St. Louis Rams (2009), Detroit Lions (2009), Cincinnati Bengals (2009) and in the United Football League for the Virginia Destroyers (2011).
Kareem Brown - Drafted in the 4th round of the 2007 NFL Draft as the 127th pick by the New England Patriots (2007), also played for the New York Jets (2007–2008), New York Giants (2009), and the Tennessee Titans (2009–2010). Current member of the Miami Hurricanes Football coaching staff as a defensive graduate assistant.
Antonio Dixon - Undrafted in the 2009 NFL Draft signed as a free agent by the Washington Redskins (did not play), and then the Philadelphia Eagles (2009–2012). Current FREE AGENT.
Dwayne Hendricks - Undrafted in the 2010 NFL Draft signed as a free agent by the New York Giants (2009–2011) and currently plays in the Arena League for the Arizona Rattlers (2013-present).
Joe Joseph - Undrafted in the 2010 NFL Draft signed as a free agent by the Tennessee Titans (2010), also played for the Washington Redskins (2010).
Marcus Forston - Undrafted in the 2012 NFL Draft signed as a free agent by the New England Patriots (2012-present).
Micanor Regis - Undrafted in the 2012 NFL Draft signed as a free agent by the Atlanta Falcons (2012). Current FREE AGENT.
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Preach.

Great defenses start and stop with great interior lineman.
 
Pentagon Cane said:
ball915 said:
This is what happens when you have Jethro Franklin as your DL coach
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Tell me who has an explosive second step at defensive tackle that is currently on the roster? The last kid Miami had with that type of potential was Marcus Forston and he could not stay healthy and when he was healthy he took too many plays off. That kid had All-American potential, but that's not enough. Valentine and Moten are must signs.
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Forston was not as good as you think....if he had any potential Bill Belchick in two years with the pats would have made him into something...and no other teams even looked at him for that reason....since Vince we have been okay at best for them
 
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Pentagon Cane said:
ball915 said:
This is what happens when you have Jethro Franklin as your DL coach
Click to expand...

Tell me who has an explosive second step at defensive tackle that is currently on the roster? The last kid Miami had with that type of potential was Marcus Forston and he could not stay healthy and when he was healthy he took too many plays off. That kid had All-American potential, but that's not enough. Valentine and Moten are must signs.
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Franklin and coach D are the reason we dont. have stud DT. Both can't recruit and get there *** kicked by Uncle Odell and T-Rob
 
Pentagon Cane said:
ball915 said:
This is what happens when you have Jethro Franklin as your DL coach
Click to expand...

Tell me who has an explosive second step at defensive tackle that is currently on the roster? The last kid Miami had with that type of potential was Marcus Forston and he could not stay healthy and when he was healthy he took too many plays off. That kid had All-American potential, but that's not enough. Valentine and Moten are must signs.
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This "READ" BS doesn't allow you to explode.

No one seems to get that, including our coaches.

The hungry, smash your guy in the mouth and make the play recruits - they don't want to come here.

This isn't rocket science!
 
At DT:

I am not a fan when you take a 5th year transfer from UVA who was a backup and plug him in at DT giving him serious burn.
I expected more out of Curtis Porter, but he is not the guy that I thought he would be this season. He is being overtaken by Renfrow at the position. As for Luther Robinson, he is a JAG. Pierre was a guy that I thought would make strides this season and that has not happen.

Is it coaching? Maybe

Is it talent? Maybe

The answer is probably wide spread. These guys look the part but don't play like it.
 
Pentagon Cane said:
ball915 said:
This is what happens when you have Jethro Franklin as your DL coach
Click to expand...

Tell me who has an explosive second step at defensive tackle that is currently on the roster? The last kid Miami had with that type of potential was Marcus Forston and he could not stay healthy and when he was healthy he took too many plays off. That kid had All-American potential, but that's not enough. Valentine and Moten are must signs.
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And Wyche and Stuckey.
 
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There is not one player on our d-line that demands a double-team. That is a HUGE problem.
 
Sapp was the man. As a Canes and Bucs fan, that guy is probably one of my all time favorite players. Sapp, Sean Taylor, Hester...game changers. Off Canes topic, go watch a highlight video of Mike Alstott, holy **** if we had a real full back llike that it would help so much to keep our smaller playmaker backs from getting banged up so much.
 
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Renfrow may be challenging Porter for the starter position, hes just a big body. Hes weak at the point of attack and I often see him getting driven back.





Goes to show that this is what is challenging for our starting DT position
 
Gamineal said:
weownfsu said:
We have a lot more issues than a ****ing defensive lineman.
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go on
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- constant edge rush
-linebackers that can't cover
-over all speed deficiency on D
-lack of depth and talent at safety
- a d coordinator who refuses to change his scheme
- an erratic and inconsistent qb
- an uncreative OC
- a te who has jugglers hands
- lack of TE depth behind him
- lack of running back depth
- an o line that struggles in short yardage situations
- an unreliable kicker
 
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Solid post minus the stupid "needs to stop going on every tv and radio show" b.s. That is part of recruiting in the year 2014...increasing the visibility of the program.
 
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