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Guidry's resumé pre-UM

nycane said:
in fairness, Guidry was respected but had a drinking problem that held him back. I think he had two dui's years ago and no one gave him a shot.
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Sooooo .... there was a connection with Coach O after all ... ;)
 
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Well last year he actually did things to help the defense and team be better..this year he refused to change and adapt…continued to put his defense in bad situations…coaches Coach and players play…with that being said it seems like the defensive coaches don’t get along well with each other…a lot of miscommunication…12 games in and kids still dont know what to do and this is the 2nd year as DC….thats a major problem
 
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Memnon said:
Where was this energy last year?

He was literally the darling of the board last season & everyone wanted Dawson fired.

Lol you guys are funny man smh
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Came here to say exactly this. Guidry could have banged half your wives at the end of last year, and Dawson was a piece of dog ****. Who said all off-season that Dawson was better than Guidry last year? I know I did. Regardless though, I'm not victory lapping anything, we're all in this **** together. His resume before coming here was one that would get him hired at a school like Miami, this stuff happens all the time. I speak to a guy who runs a very successful business in college football, and at the time he was hired, Guidry was VERY highly regarded to come from the G5 ranks and take a Power job. Very highly regarded. It seemed like a very good hire at the time.
 
Memnon said:
Where was this energy last year?

He was literally the darling of the board last season & everyone wanted Dawson fired.

Lol you guys are funny man smh
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The joy of coaching. You win it’s the players you lose it’s the coaching. One of the most thankless professions…esp at the lower levels where pay sucks and 99.9% of your kids are not going pro so you truly are trying to develop them as a player but also as an adult.
 
His track record is good enough. He was highly thought of but had some DUIs and went through some dark stuff with his son that held him back.

Something is obviously not connecting here but it has nothing to do with his prior résumé.
 
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It happens all the time. People interview well. They know what to say to sound good and the employers eat it up. I see it all the time.
 
OP omitted that his Defense at Marshall in 2022 finished in the Top 10 in 12 different categories. He struck when the iron was hot and it's hard to fault. However, it's become evident that his approach is not working here and we have regressed from 2023 to 2024 while upgrading the talent.
 
JayCane20 said:
His track record is good enough. He was highly thought of but had some DUIs and went through some dark stuff with his son that held him back.

Something is obviously not connecting here but it has nothing to do with his prior résumé.
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Yeah, the issue for Guidry is that the "something" that is not connecting seems to primarily relate to secondary play, which is Guidry's area of responsibility together with his handpicked CB coach. The players aren't great, but they are also not being put in a position to succeed. Why do we constantly have CBs using outside leverage in the boundary with zero safety help? Why are we constantly unbalanced and confused as **** pre-snap? Simple stuff. Either the scheme is way too complicated for the players to grasp over the course of an entire season or it is not being taught well.
 
There is something totally out of sych with his system that seems to have been exposed by USF onwards... His inability to change has been alarming..
 
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hoops156 said:
hes a g5 DC not a p4 DC
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That's so typical. Some dude scores a lot of points in a Tuesday night MAC game and this board wants him to apply to be our OC. But when we actually take a guy who had G5 success, then it was a stupid move. CIS gonna CIS.
 
Ryanmilli said:
Yeah, the issue for Guidry is that the "something" that is not connecting seems to primarily relate to secondary play, which is Guidry's area of responsibility together with his handpicked CB coach. The players aren't great, but they are also not being put in a position to succeed. Why do we constantly have CBs using outside leverage in the boundary with zero safety help? Why are we constantly unbalanced pre-snap? Simple stuff. Either the scheme is way too complicated for the players to grasp over the course of an entire season or it is not being taught well.
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I think it is more "teaching" it than scheming it.

I'm betting they went all off-season thinking they got it installed in year 1 and they could just build on it and plug in the portal guys they got and never went back to the basics and started from scratch. So basically, yes it got too complicated. At the same time, its a new age and now you're plugging in guys post spring when you have already done the install. Makes it hard there too. There's never a good time to do an install and how is the best way to go about plugging new guys and plugging the later summer enrollees. Where does their learning start?

Always have to start every year like everyone is brand new. Some of it becomes redundant to older guys but they will master it and learn something new that they thought they had already grasped. Pick up new details, etc. and they get better at executing it and calling it than they were the prior year. Then, the learning curve speeds up and you're able to expand the playbook and scheme because the first part is picked up quicker than year 1 and so on.

We are limited with what we can do with the players in our secondary but there is something off when we're talking alignment, leverage, coverage busts, etc. and it just seems to me they had to have skipped an important part in the offseason.
 
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Our guys looking like a Chinese fire drill pre and during snap is all anyone needs to see. Just can’t happen at this level. I thought we were decent enough on D last year but I must’ve had blinders on
 
Last year he was pretty good at scheming around a pretty questionable DL situation. There were some red flag moments, but overall he was solid.

This year, pretty much every opponent has been ahead of him schematically, as a result we are constantly confused, misaligned, etc. Our secondary has some terrible holes, but they can't even pass off HS level concepts?

This is a what have you done for me lately world, and our defense is as bad as it's been in 20 years.
 
I’m not gonna throw a stone at his resume because I’m also advocating getting some young blood from the ravens, 49ers, Texans, or KC staffs here and I’m sure getting some young LB coach will probably have a similar or worse resume prior

He’s proven he’s stubborn, can’t coach DBs (which is funny seeing his resume in full) and flat out can get out coached by anyone with a pulse….
 
JayCane20 said:
I think it is more "teaching" it than scheming it.

I'm betting they went all off-season thinking they got it installed in year 1 and they could just build on it and plug in the portal guys they got and never went back to the basics and started from scratch. So basically, yes it got too complicated. At the same time, its a new age and now you're plugging in guys post spring when you have already done the install. Makes it hard there too. There's never a good time to do an install and how is the best way to go about plugging new guys and plugging the later summer enrollees. Where does their learning start?

Always have to start every year like everyone is brand new. Some of it becomes redundant to older guys but they will master it and learn something new that they thought they had already grasped. Pick up new details, etc. and they get better at executing it and calling it than they were the prior year. Then, the learning curve speeds up and you're able to expand the playbook and scheme because the first part is picked up quicker than year 1 and so on.

We are limited with what we can do with the players in our secondary but there is something off when we're talking alignment, leverage, coverage busts, etc. and it just seems to me they had to have skipped an important part in the offseason.
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Yes. Great point about install timing and frequency. At G5, you probably had guys in the system for a number of years. Here we are getting more 1 and done.

That said, maybe he is salvageable if he’s willing to simplify the scheme some and allow for more work more on the fundamentals that are necessary for playcalls.
 
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