Good things are starting to happen (Radakovich)...

Many people know I've posted about this for years, but it looks like Radakovich is going to try to add a Softball program to UM Sports.

I could not be more happy to see UM finally adding sports programs again. Yes, I'm still ****ed at Dave Maggard for dumping Men's Golf and Swimming.


He needs to add men's soccer......we are in the hot bed of soccer talent
 
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Women's softball???

Oh goodie. UM could use an additional 25 ******* eeerrrrr "same ***" chicks on campus, I guess. Chick softball is a joke of a sport. They play on the same size field as 9 year old boys. That said, I think it could be a real sport but they need to go to a 50/70 diamond with 300' fences. Playing on a 45/60 diamond with 200-210' fences is childish. The entire sport is pitching, walks, and bunting.


As others have noted, UM not having a men's soccer team is fraudulent. South Florida is a hotbed for soccer talent. The ACC is the premier soccer conference in the NCAA. Yet we're talking about adding chick softball. C'mon, meng!!
 
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Should increase our exposure in the ******* community.
Lesbians play softball, people.
hall of fame game missed the point GIF
 
Issue for softball is they have ~25 women and only 12 scholarships. So you're competing vs Florida, FSU, UCF who can offer you a 1/2 + your pre-paid and bright futures, and other scholarship money.

Of the top25 + the teams receiving votes (37 schools) only four are private (Duke, Liberty / ND, Stanford).

It's 9.9 scholarships for men's soccer. 4.5 for men's golf. So adding those 2 vs softball gets you close.

I'd love to see softball at Miami but it'd be a much different battle than at Clemson


You are correct, and I have also frequently argued to make baseball/softball into "head-count scholarship" sports instead of "equivalency scholarship" sports. For instance, baseball has 11.7 scholarships for 27 roster spots AND you have to give a minimum of a one-quarter scholarship to any recruited scholarship baseball player. So, yes, Miami is going to continue to suffer (as a private school) unless we can harness a larger endowment fund to give more scholarship money to ALL qualifying students and/or figure out a way to give more needs-based assistance.

I will also provide a snapshot below of our current programs (not for you specifically, but for everyone). I am obviously biased about reinstating Men's Golf and Swimming, but Men's Soccer and both Men's & Women's Lacrosse make a lot of sense too, given our demographics (ACC). I honestly don't think Wrestling fits in, it's more of a Midwestern winter/indoor sport and there is no Women's sport equivalent.

If the NCAA had any true guts at all, they would push for MORE head-count scholarship sports, at least in Division I. Not only is the NCAA sitting on a ton of money, but a lot of schools are as well, and CURRENTLY they are spending like drunken sailors on football coaches. I am NOT begrudging anyone their money, but these big TV contracts, IF ALL P5 SCHOOLS USED THEM TO FUND MORE SPORTS, could POSSIBLY be an argument for keeping head football coaches SLIGHTLY lower. Even a million dollars per year goes a long way in some of these smaller non-revenue sports.

Just things to think about and discuss.

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Yep, I follow them on social media. Been wanting to get my hands on a U sweater.

I'm a hockey nerd.


Once or twice a year, the UM hockey team has played up here in Orlando (sometimes tourneys, sometimes vs. UCF) and I have frequently gone out to support the team. A lot of the games have been at the RDV Center in Maitland, right off of I-4.
 
From the view of a parent with a daughter who plays Softball on the travel circuit, my view is that Florida as a state has a lot of talent, and some of the teams that come out of the SE/SW part of the state ought to be sending lots of girls to college ball. For whatever little that's worth. Have always wondered why the U doesn't have a women's softball team.
 
From the view of a parent with a daughter who plays Softball on the travel circuit, my view is that Florida as a state has a lot of talent, and some of the teams that come out of the SE/SW part of the state ought to be sending lots of girls to college ball. For whatever little that's worth. Have always wondered why the U doesn't have a women's softball team.

1. Dave Maggard cut some Men's sports (instead of expanding Women's sports) when UM was an independent (not in a conference).
2. Then, Big East money was crap, we couldn't afford to add any sports on that garbage league payout.
3. By the time that we had ACC money, we had weak ADs like Hocutt, Eichorst, and Beta Blake, who didn't have the vision to spend money to make money.
 
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1. Dave Maggard cut some Men's sports (instead of expanding Women's sports) when UM was an independent (not in a conference).
2. Then, Big East money was crap, we couldn't afford to add any sports on that garbage league payout.
3. By the time that we had ACC money, we had weak ADs like Hocutt, Eichorst, and Beta Blake, who didn't have the vision to spend money to make money.
Thanks for that breakdown. Appreciated!
 
The courts have landed on a 3 pronged test to determine compliance with Title IX - in #1 down below the athletic scholarships must be in proportion of men and women students at the school. But 2 and 3 are known as the 'excuse' clauses bc they state if you cannot meet #1 it's okay as long as you can prove #2 or #3. Other benefits must also be proportionate and equal such as travel, facilities, PR, etc. although NCAA schools and the NCAA directly have historically spent far less on women's sports and you need look no further than last years Basketball tournament PR fiasco which forced the NCAA to conduct it's own Gender Equity review which resulted in the women getting guarantees for more equal treatment and getting use of the marks for the Final Four and March Madness which were only used for the men's tournament.

Clemson and Radakovich cut their men's track and cross country programs in Nov 2020 under the guise of necessary expense savings as a result of covid but later reversed its decision after being threatened with a Title IX lawsuit and ultimately hired an external firm to conduct a Gender Equity review of their program. Also as a result of that review they announced plans to add an add'l women's team in the 'near future' which would likely be field hockey if I were to bet. Clemson also has land readily available.

So Radakovich is intimately familiar with the steps needed to be taken here. Clemson currently has 11 women's and 8 men's sports. Miami has 9 and 7 respectively but as a private university has a much lower enrollment. But it is no small feet to add a sport especially sports with unique facility needs like softball. LAX or field hockey are a little easier bc you can share the soccer field although locker rooms and coaches offices would be needed. Where are you going to build a state of the art "Mark Light" for softball on campus bc that is what it would take to comply? Not arguing against it mind you, I fully support it, just pointing out the nuances.

3-pronged compliance test
1) Whether intercollegiate level participation opportunities for male and female students are provided in numbers substantially proportionate to their respective enrollments;
(2) where the members of one *** ... are underrepresented among intercollegiate athletes, whether the institution can show a history and continuing practice of program expansion which is demonstrably responsive to the developing interest and abilities of the members of that ***; or
(3) where the members of one *** are underrepresented among intercollegiate athletes, and the institution cannot show a continuing practice of program expansion...whether it can be demonstrated that the interests and abilities of the members of that *** have been fully and effectively accommodated by the present programs.
 
Issue for softball is they have ~25 women and only 12 scholarships. So you're competing vs Florida, FSU, UCF who can offer you a 1/2 + your pre-paid and bright futures, and other scholarship money.

Of the top25 + the teams receiving votes (37 schools) only four are private (Duke, Liberty / ND, Stanford).

It's 9.9 scholarships for men's soccer. 4.5 for men's golf. So adding those 2 vs softball gets you close.

I'd love to see softball at Miami but it'd be a much different battle than at Clemson
Very similar to baseball. I always wondered how UM was competitive in baseball being a private school.
 
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Would love to add softball. Issue is where the field goes. If we could add softball with that many participants, it opens up an opportunity to add more men's sports...like soccer.
 
Women's softball???

Oh goodie. UM could use an additional 25 ******* eeerrrrr "same ***" chicks on campus, I guess. Chick softball is a joke of a sport. They play on the same size field as 9 year old boys. That said, I think it could be a real sport but they need to go to a 50/70 diamond with 300' fences. Playing on a 45/60 diamond with 200-210' fences is childish. The entire sport is pitching, walks, and bunting.


As others have noted, UM not having a men's soccer team is fraudulent. South Florida is a hotbed for soccer talent. The ACC is the premier soccer conference in the NCAA. Yet we're talking about adding chick softball. C'mon, meng!!

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Women's softball???

Oh goodie. UM could use an additional 25 ******* eeerrrrr "same ***" chicks on campus, I guess. Chick softball is a joke of a sport. They play on the same size field as 9 year old boys. That said, I think it could be a real sport but they need to go to a 50/70 diamond with 300' fences. Playing on a 45/60 diamond with 200-210' fences is childish. The entire sport is pitching, walks, and bunting.


As others have noted, UM not having a men's soccer team is fraudulent. South Florida is a hotbed for soccer talent. The ACC is the premier soccer conference in the NCAA. Yet we're talking about adding chick softball. C'mon, meng!!
Can't add another men's sport because of Title IX. Would need to add women's sports to balance it out. That's why we don't have men's soccer, golf, or swimming. Add women's softball and another sport and you could potentially get all three of those men's sports. Assuming we have the funds. I'd think men's soccer would sell tickets.
 
The courts have landed on a 3 pronged test to determine compliance with Title IX - in #1 down below the athletic scholarships must be in proportion of men and women students at the school. But 2 and 3 are known as the 'excuse' clauses bc they state if you cannot meet #1 it's okay as long as you can prove #2 or #3. Other benefits must also be proportionate and equal such as travel, facilities, PR, etc. although NCAA schools and the NCAA directly have historically spent far less on women's sports and you need look no further than last years Basketball tournament PR fiasco which forced the NCAA to conduct it's own Gender Equity review which resulted in the women getting guarantees for more equal treatment and getting use of the marks for the Final Four and March Madness which were only used for the men's tournament.

Clemson and Radakovich cut their men's track and cross country programs in Nov 2020 under the guise of necessary expense savings as a result of covid but later reversed its decision after being threatened with a Title IX lawsuit and ultimately hired an external firm to conduct a Gender Equity review of their program. Also as a result of that review they announced plans to add an add'l women's team in the 'near future' which would likely be field hockey if I were to bet. Clemson also has land readily available.

So Radakovich is intimately familiar with the steps needed to be taken here. Clemson currently has 11 women's and 8 men's sports. Miami has 9 and 7 respectively but as a private university has a much lower enrollment. But it is no small feet to add a sport especially sports with unique facility needs like softball. LAX or field hockey are a little easier bc you can share the soccer field although locker rooms and coaches offices would be needed. Where are you going to build a state of the art "Mark Light" for softball on campus bc that is what it would take to comply? Not arguing against it mind you, I fully support it, just pointing out the nuances.

3-pronged compliance test
1) Whether intercollegiate level participation opportunities for male and female students are provided in numbers substantially proportionate to their respective enrollments;
(2) where the members of one *** ... are underrepresented among intercollegiate athletes, whether the institution can show a history and continuing practice of program expansion which is demonstrably responsive to the developing interest and abilities of the members of that ***; or
(3) where the members of one *** are underrepresented among intercollegiate athletes, and the institution cannot show a continuing practice of program expansion...whether it can be demonstrated that the interests and abilities of the members of that *** have been fully and effectively accommodated by the present programs.


I will briefly address the issue of softball facilities.

Softball does not require anywhere near a "stadium" complex for seating. You build the field and a few bleachers, no big deal.

An EASY spot that could hold a softball field would be the land on the north side of campus, by Mahoney-Pearson. Softball will likely never have the same seating/parking needs, and any parking could be accommodated by the Mahoney-Pearson parking garage (not unlike the parking garage down by Mark Light). You'd have minimal "residential" issues, as you just have a few multi-unit houses across Granada. There aren't a ton of night games for softball. All-in-all, while you probably would prefer to build a facility on campus, it is definitely something do-able.
 
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