Goal Line Defense With Linebackers 4-5 Yards Deep

[LuCane]

If we played them closer to the line, they'd get all tangled up when our DL get blown off the ball by Duke OL. This way gives them some nice space to try to get around DL who are now two yards into the end zone.

This may have been tongue-in-cheek, but wouldn't we STILL have a better chance of stopping the run at the goal line if we had more bodies (albeit tangled up) in the immediate area, instead of far back enough to basically not impact the play?

I was definitely ******* around w/ my previous answer.

The only reasonable thing I can think of is that's the way they're drilled to line up based on certain defensive calls - whether on the 35 or on the goal line. They don't adjust it when they get down in the goal line. ****, the other week against VT, I saw VT manipulate us at the goal line by shifting formation from left to right. Jenkins was playing 6 yards into the end zone as if to play over the top of the Corners who had twins to one side of the field. That's a matter of "this is what my job is on this defensive call and I shall play it."

I really don't know the answer. Next time I see a player, I'll ask.

 

[MiamiVice7]

If we played them closer to the line, they'd get all tangled up when our DL get blown off the ball by Duke OL. This way gives them some nice space to try to get around DL who are now two yards into the end zone.

This may have been tongue-in-cheek, but wouldn't we STILL have a better chance of stopping the run at the goal line if we had more bodies (albeit tangled up) in the immediate area, instead of far back enough to basically not impact the play?

I was definitely ****ing around w/ my previous answer.

The only reasonable thing I can think of is that's the way they're drilled to line up based on certain defensive calls - whether on the 35 or on the goal line. They don't adjust it when they get down in the goal line. ****, the other week against VT, I saw VT manipulate us at the goal line by shifting formation from left to right. Jenkins was playing 6 yards into the end zone as if to play over the top of the Corners who had twins to one side of the field. That's a matter of "this is what my job is on this defensive call and I shall play it."

I really don't know the answer. Next time I see a player, I'll ask.

That's the kind of question I wish someone would ask of Coach D or Al at a press conference...though I suspect we wouldn't get a straight answer anyways.

 

[NateDogg]

If we played them closer to the line, they'd get all tangled up when our DL get blown off the ball by Duke OL. This way gives them some nice space to try to get around DL who are now two yards into the end zone.

This may have been tongue-in-cheek, but wouldn't we STILL have a better chance of stopping the run at the goal line if we had more bodies (albeit tangled up) in the immediate area, instead of far back enough to basically not impact the play?

I was definitely ****ing around w/ my previous answer.

The only reasonable thing I can think of is that's the way they're drilled to line up based on certain defensive calls - whether on the 35 or on the goal line. They don't adjust it when they get down in the goal line. ****, the other week against VT, I saw VT manipulate us at the goal line by shifting formation from left to right. Jenkins was playing 6 yards into the end zone as if to play over the top of the Corners who had twins to one side of the field. That's a matter of "this is what my job is on this defensive call and I shall play it."

I really don't know the answer. Next time I see a player, I'll ask.

That's the kind of question I wish someone would ask of Coach D or Al at a press conference...though I suspect we wouldn't get a straight answer anyways.

this week I've watched more interview footage than at any point during Golden's tenure. Let me say that i am apalled at the inability from a single person in the miami media to ask a ******* follow up question. There were several times where Golden and Dorito gave an answer that BEGGED for a follow up...basically ANY follow up could have potentially boxed them into a corner where they would HAVE to give SOMETHING of substance...but do they? Nope, just continue lobbing up wiffle balls for the good ol' boys. Its ridiculous, if I was an editor for any of the local media outlets i would be pulling my hair out...but then again maybe thats just the way it goes down there.

If we had even a halfway competent media I guarantee dorito's *** would be gone by now.

 

[TreOFive]

Our goal line defense is just a give up formation. It's like we don't even try to stop teams when they get inside the 50.

We let that QB walk through the A gap 4 times virtually untouched for walk-in TDs. That was one of the most disgraceful elements of that miserable Puke game. We didn't even put a hat on the fcking QB. Just let him tip toe through the tulips and prance into the endzone with no resistance.

fixed it for you

 

[Ned_Zawalski]

The only reasonable thing I can think of is that's the way they're drilled to line up based on certain defensive calls - whether on the 35 or on the goal line. They don't adjust it when they get down in the goal line. ****, the other week against VT, I saw VT manipulate us at the goal line by shifting formation from left to right. Jenkins was playing 6 yards into the end zone as if to play over the top of the Corners who had twins to one side of the field. That's a matter of "this is what my job is on this defensive call and I shall play it."

I really don't know the answer. Next time I see a player, I'll ask.

This is why it's a DC/ Head Coach issue and not a talent or position coach issue. The FIRST TIME in a season that we line up five yards deep on first and goal at the one, that's when you reign **** down on the defense and ask them what the &^%^ they are doing. But no, we let it happen four times in one game. Only two people in the entire program have to answer for that.

 

[Coach Macho]

We're the only defense in football that tries to engage blockers during goal-line situations.

You gotta get penetration on the goal-line. If you try to engage blockers the ball carrier is already hitting his head on the goal post by the time you disengage.

 

[Coach Macho]

You play press-man and you send the house.

 

[mapcane]

Our defense is completely retarded; like, last place in the Special Olympics retarded.

 

[RiDLer80]

We're the only defense in football that tries to engage blockers during goal-line situations.

You gotta get penetration on the goal-line. If you try to engage blockers the ball carrier is already hitting his head on the goal post by the time you disengage.

God**** I hate Doritos.

I never pay that close attention when our goal line D is in because I figure it's an automatic touchdown so I've never noticed this.

But if we're still trying to engage and disengage on the goal line the Dorito is a bigger jackass than I though. SMFH

 

[casualcane]

We want to give up a few yards, just make sure they don't score

 

[rccollins]

I remember being furious with Shannon when we would do simliar BS under his regeme. It'd be first and goal on the one- and he'd still have 4 dbs in, almost every ****** time. Drove me crazy.

 

[theibisrules]

It's a process.

The process needs about 1,000 band aids

 

[gogeta4]

im guessing its to give the lbs a chance to pick up steam and meet the ball carrier.

just a guess though....

but quite frankly we suck in goal line situations imo.....just like Wilcat said..our dline are still ****y fighting with lineman even in these situations....i mean juyst lunging into gaps would be better than what we do...but i guess they keep their gap integrity...

 

[Bennubird]

Yep. Sadly, I was joking, but it's true.

Simply, we don't want to get beat deep!

But in the endzone, when you know their QB's going to keep the ball. I was calling out the plays when he was running for TD's.

 

[Bennubird]

No not deep. Typically, a player catches the ball in front of our defenders and then takes it to the house, for example, Wide Splits University end of game, FSU before the half, VT (multiple times) and Duke most recently.

Simply, we don't want to get beat deep!

The sad thing is we really haven't been beat deep in any situation IIRC, yet we just keep the defense out on the field for long periods of time, which delays the inevitable.

 

[TheMatador]

The only (rationale) thing I can think of is that they saw something in the film which told them that Duke would run some play at the goal line like a play action and short throw to a TE or something similar. Maybe a keeper by the QB off of play action, that was easier to defense if the LBs were sitting back. I don't know. They might have seen some tendency by Duke that suggested that they play back.

That's a reasonable and rationale explanation....but who knows? It's just a guess.

 

[gogeta4]

The only (rationale) thing I can think of is that they saw something in the film which told them that Duke would run some play at the goal line like a play action and short throw to a TE or something similar. Maybe a keeper by the QB off of play action, that was easier to defense if the LBs were sitting back. I don't know. They might have seen some tendency by Duke that suggested that they play back.

That's a reasonable and rationale explanation....but who knows? It's just a guess.

ya wanna know whtas duke tendency was in goaline...and has been for two yrs or so....is run their got**** qb.....dude has a sh*tload of rushing tds

 

[Gapere]

we were better off doing the Gator flop

 

[Mjm0653]

I noticed the same thing. It was like D'onofrio didn't know what was coming. How come WE all knew?

 

[Cribby]

Denofrio has the lbs deep because he's saying " ok, let's get this s hit over with".