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Give Fisch props for this

wushah said:
He's better than many are giving credit for. We're seeing plays that we've been begging for since the Dorsey days. Give it some time. Morris continues to improve, and you can't put a price to continuity at the OC spot.

The number one way to fack up a young QB is to continue to give him different OCs year in, year out.

We're dropping 40 spots on our opponents. Give it some more time.
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This. I can be patient with the team.

Some of the red-zone offense ground my gears, but I can't be too ****ed about 566 yards, 5 TDs, and a win. Go Canes.
 
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He's struggled in the red zone, at least in part because of our failure to establish a power running game, but for the most part I do like what I've seen from Fisch.
 
I'm generally happy with the offense so far.

No to threadjack, but watching the game today this thought came to my mind: we are throwing a LOT of WR screens, many to the wide side I think. Morris has the arm strength to do it, and it has been working (Herb Waters looked quick today). I think we see the inside guy run a wheel route against either ND or FSU. Think we've been setting up for it all year.

Or, one is gonna be pick 6 soon cause someone is gonna jump it.
 
Caneofthe718 said:
3FW said:
He's a good OC who struggles in situations. 23-7, you pound the rock behind power 2x and throw on 3rd. A field goal there is huge.
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He's a very mediocre OC. Bad is probably too strong. Pat Nix, like the super intelligent poster above mentioned was bad. Terrible even. Fisch is just very mediocre, average to below-average OC to me and this program really can't afford to wait and find out if he'll improve to eventually become above average.
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. U sir are a JACKASS!!
 
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Caneofthe718 said:
No. Overall he's still a bad OC. He has instances of good but overall, which is what matters, he is not good at all. No point in focusing on the instances of good. Focus on the whole in regards to Fisch.
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He is not a "bad" OC. Are you kidding me?

I think people have these ridiculous, romanticized visions of what a "good" player or "good" OC is.
 
Good OC, I just wish he'd have more confidence in our running game and give Duke the ball more. I think if we committed to it, we could have a very good running game. Our running game was beyond pathetic today, 32 carries for a 2.7 average. With how wide open the passing game was, we should have had more success. James averaged 2.4 and Duke 3.3. That should never happen.
 
3FW said:
Good OC, I just wish he'd have more confidence in our running game and give Duke the ball more. I think if we committed to it, we could have a very good running game. Our running game was beyond pathetic today, 32 carries for a 2.7 average. With how wide open the passing game was, we should have had more success. James averaged 2.4 and Duke 3.3. That should never happen.
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That's my beef with Fisch too. He's gotta commit to the run.
 
He gets cute, but the TE was WIDE open on the INT in the first half. He can't make Morris make that throw. Plus, if you remember, the stack formation on the left side was a new look. I am sure he will set up some interesting stuff off of that in the future.

Also, three missed field goals don't help. Even in the Dorsey days we had stalled drives. In retrospect we could have pounded the ball but we had some narrow misses, which, if they had gone the other way, he would have looked genius.
 
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He would be better served to run a few times both at the 1 and to get us to a closer FG towards the end of the game, but he doesnt have me throwing **** all over my house and stomping my feet going WTF at his play calls so I'll take it
 
weownfsu said:
3FW said:
Good OC, I just wish he'd have more confidence in our running game and give Duke the ball more. I think if we committed to it, we could have a very good running game. Our running game was beyond pathetic today, 32 carries for a 2.7 average. With how wide open the passing game was, we should have had more success. James averaged 2.4 and Duke 3.3. That should never happen.
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That's my beef with Fisch too. He's gotta commit to the run.
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Not to sound harsh, but this makes no sense. If the passing game is open where are their players? Obviously trying to stop the run. 32 carries amd 2.7 avg. Why would we try to force it? We tried to run wide, we tried iso, we tried counters they played the run well. The passing was working but you want to force the run, for what? I could understand at the 2 yard line. Yea lets punch it in. But when you have 500 yrds passing and want to try to force the run it makes no sense. From the looks of this season so far Fisch has our offense looking very explosive without a proven player to lean on going in. His unit is carrying this team, Defense sucks, special teams is struggling. He is getting the job done. PERIOD
 
So basically you need to throw for 800 yards an run for 200 to be considered pretty good as an OC at Miami. 1000 yards per game is the average expected yds/game this season. That's reasonable.
 
I swear I love our fan base.

A QB with better touch and a TE that could actually keep the middle of the field honest, and we wouldn't be having this conversation. Fisch has been the best OC we've had since Coker. Sure, sometimes he out thinks himself, but he's starting to coming along by allowing his offense to counteract what looks the defense give them (delayed HB screens, etc.). His RZ calls were good today and that fake to James, toss to Duke was a thing of beauty.

Keep in mind that Fisch is only in his second year at OC for Miami and he never had these types of athletes at Minnesota so it's an adjustment for him as well. People expecting him to be Chip Kelly overnight is just crazy.

If there's a gripe against any of the coaches it should be against Carroll and Franklin.
 
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Lulz at people calling Fisch a bad oc. He has room for improvement, and I loathe the 5 wide shotgun **** in the redzone, but overall the guy is a **** solid oc. Also, he seems to be a killer qb coach. A seemingly broken Jacory had a very solid senior year under him, and Morris, thus far, is far ecceeding the extremely low expectations I had for him.
 
skyman said:
weownfsu said:
3FW said:
Good OC, I just wish he'd have more confidence in our running game and give Duke the ball more. I think if we committed to it, we could have a very good running game. Our running game was beyond pathetic today, 32 carries for a 2.7 average. With how wide open the passing game was, we should have had more success. James averaged 2.4 and Duke 3.3. That should never happen.
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That's my beef with Fisch too. He's gotta commit to the run.
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Not to sound harsh, but this makes no sense. If the passing game is open where are their players? Obviously trying to stop the run. 32 carries amd 2.7 avg. Why would we try to force it? We tried to run wide, we tried iso, we tried counters they played the run well. The passing was working but you want to force the run, for what? I could understand at the 2 yard line. Yea lets punch it in. But when you have 500 yrds passing and want to try to force the run it makes no sense. From the looks of this season so far Fisch has our offense looking very explosive without a proven player to lean on going in. His unit is carrying this team, Defense sucks, special teams is struggling. He is getting the job done. PERIOD
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Huh?

The passing game worked for two quarters. For two quarters it didn't. And during the two quarters the passing game was not working, this team failed at running the football, and running the football is something that is going to be necessary to beat the better teams on the schedule. It's not about individual games, it's about going forward now. Eventually we are going to face a team or team(s) with a dominant pass rush (possibly FSU) and not have a handle on running the ball yet, and get slaughtered. Or maybe Morris doesn't have it that day, the receivers can't get open, etc.

It's nice to have the strange passing attack we've got going on right now, but the chances of disaster go down when you have a balanced offense. This team has the ability to have a balanced offense that can gash you running the ball, so I'd like to see Fisch make a better effort at establishing a running game, which makes things easier on Morris and the receivers, and most importantly, keeps our defense off the field.


Fisch has been doing a solid job. The lack of a consistent running game is concerning, and the approach that Fisch takes is not conducive to establishing a consistent running game.

and if you can't see how a trend can affect future games then I don't really have the patience to explain it to you. Not to sound harsh.
 
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Some real winners on this board

Cleveland drops a sure TD and Wieclaw misses 3 gimmies and our OC sucks because he didn't capitalize on Turnovers. It reeks of averageness?

Bunch of XBox heroes up in here
 
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