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Words cannot describe how much I hate Gators FANS.
My first game as a UM student was the 1986 game AT Florida. Because of the "favoritism" that Sig Ep USBG leaders Joe Garcia and Bill Barzee showed to their fraternity brothers, I narrowly missed out on getting a ticket and I had to buy one from a friend at UF and sit in the UF student section.
My first "hate" t-shirt that I ever bought at AllSports (now AllCanes) was the "Gator Hater" t-shirt with Sebastian putting a Darth-Vader-like throat choke on a nearly lifeless Gator.
The younger UM fans will not remember this, but pre-Spurrier there was a quote about the Gators that went something like "they act like they have the football tradition of Alabama, when they have only had the accomplishments of Vanderbilt". ****, by the 1980s, I think that Vanderbilt had already won the SEC more than Florida had.
Anyhow, it's one thing to look at what these douchebags post online (and it is delicious to feed on their tears), but we have to realize that this is GENERATIONS of Gator self-delusion here. Never forget, that UF powers blocked ANY of the other state schools from naming themselves, say, "University of Florida-Tampa" or "University of Florida-Orlando", and they threatened to sue UM for calling ourselves "University of Miami" (at the time, Miami was as well-known a geographic location, if not more well-known, than Florida).
No matter what, they will ALWAYS be of the opinion that UF is the best school in the state, and that any athlete anywhere (unless you are a gold-toothed thug from Miami with young children who is too poor to pay for your mama to drive to Gainesville to watch you play) will always consider UF to be the superior choice. Regardless of, you know, actual historical results.
So let's break down their current insane arguments.
First - Miami is going to lose recruits to UF because. Past history. Now, this is an argument that is easily rebutted with simple details such as Miami's coaching change, or precise issues such as Rumph calling out Henderson about the all-star game pouting. There is no "acceptable" methodology that Gator fans will not call out as "sour grapes". It doesn't matter that some of their "wins" in head-to-head recruiting were not, you know, ACTUAL FLIPS AT ALL. It doesn't matter that you shouldn't label the mercurial mood changes of a flake like Henderson a "flip" when we were barely an actual choice at all before his estrogen spiked. In spite of all of this, Gator fans will continue to view the light through a one-way prism, where they can only imagine recruits wanting to leave other schools, and they can't possibly articulate a reason why these dissatisfied recruits would want to pick UF (even in light of all the evidence they admit to, such as having poor-recruiting assistants, making late offers to players, and having the same deficiencies as other schools, such as no obvious starting QB).
Second, more precisely, UF is going to magically flip a QB from someone. Because Florida. As stated above, even when a Gator fan admits that McEltooth has been late to offer, they still refuse to look at the past history of "flipping" as it relates to QBs. Many have pointed out that this is a rare occurrence, particularly when a coaching change is not involved. But, no, that will not deter the delusional Gator. We have to read posts about taking a potential QB flippee to see the statue of Danny Wuerffel, as if it's the Blarney Stone. It doesn't matter that far, far better coaches were coaching the QBs who have been turned into statues, no, somehow we are supposed to believe that it is the magical swampwater that will transform these flippees into Gator legends. So, on one hand, you have the blind ignorance among Gator fans to believe that Justin Fields WANTS to flip in the absence of a coaching change or oversigning at the QB position...which then gets magnified by the sheer stupidity of predictions that UM verbals will start flipping...because QB play. Months before the season starts, months before all recruits report, somehow a little-used QB recruited by our former coach is CONVINCING EVIDENCE that Miami will fail at QB once the season starts. Never mind that the EXACT SAME PROJECTION could be used against UF, with even more vigor, as they don't even have a fallback position as good as Malik Rosier, who has actually, you know, completed passes and won games against actual college competition.
Third, the UF coaches are amazing and the UM coaches suck. Because...geography/employer? This one baffles me. I'm old enough to remember when every Gator fan DESTROYED Randy Shannon for (a) being black (yes, this was a real thing, they used to couch their racism in slightly more acceptable terms, such as Randy was playing the "brother man" card when recruiting), (b) making the "this will help us more than they can ever know" comment, (c) complaining about an ACTUAL case of "running up the score", and (d) just about any other Randy quote, behavior, or activity. But, hey, now that Randy cashes checks from UF, all is forgiven, and he is a magical recruiter of SoFla talent, such that all the best kids will leave home simply to play in front of the mythically large (and racist) SEC crowds. On the other side of this is a brain-dead indictment of Richt, who admittedly lost to guys like Spurrier and Meyer, neither of which are employed by UF anymore. But that doesn't matter, because we should all ignore the quality and accomplishments of the coach, and simply focus on long-ago dominance established by long-gone coaches. Sure, now the delusional Gator fans can IGNORE race and slam Richt for tweeting about the need for a grad-transfer RB, while they embrace someone (Shannon) who they once vilified. Sorry, personal comment here, but I'm ashamed of Randy Shannon, as an alum, for actually accepting a job with a fanbase that once tore him apart for his skin color. Shannon could have had a position coaching job anywhere in the country, and he chose to go to UF.
Anyhow, continue to fight, fight, fight against the Evil Gator Empire. Use logic. Use facts. Expect them to brush those arguments off of their stubborn Gator hides. Eventually, we will be proven correct and superior.
Steve Spurrier isn't walking through that door.
Urban Meyer isn't walking through that door.
Let them have all the 4-stars who refuse to play the position everyone is recruiting them for, or who pout at all-star games because they aren't starting.
I like our guys.
And our guys are going to destroy their guys the next time they actually honor a contract to show up to our scheduled game.
That is all. Go Canes!
My first game as a UM student was the 1986 game AT Florida. Because of the "favoritism" that Sig Ep USBG leaders Joe Garcia and Bill Barzee showed to their fraternity brothers, I narrowly missed out on getting a ticket and I had to buy one from a friend at UF and sit in the UF student section.
My first "hate" t-shirt that I ever bought at AllSports (now AllCanes) was the "Gator Hater" t-shirt with Sebastian putting a Darth-Vader-like throat choke on a nearly lifeless Gator.
The younger UM fans will not remember this, but pre-Spurrier there was a quote about the Gators that went something like "they act like they have the football tradition of Alabama, when they have only had the accomplishments of Vanderbilt". ****, by the 1980s, I think that Vanderbilt had already won the SEC more than Florida had.
Anyhow, it's one thing to look at what these douchebags post online (and it is delicious to feed on their tears), but we have to realize that this is GENERATIONS of Gator self-delusion here. Never forget, that UF powers blocked ANY of the other state schools from naming themselves, say, "University of Florida-Tampa" or "University of Florida-Orlando", and they threatened to sue UM for calling ourselves "University of Miami" (at the time, Miami was as well-known a geographic location, if not more well-known, than Florida).
No matter what, they will ALWAYS be of the opinion that UF is the best school in the state, and that any athlete anywhere (unless you are a gold-toothed thug from Miami with young children who is too poor to pay for your mama to drive to Gainesville to watch you play) will always consider UF to be the superior choice. Regardless of, you know, actual historical results.
So let's break down their current insane arguments.
First - Miami is going to lose recruits to UF because. Past history. Now, this is an argument that is easily rebutted with simple details such as Miami's coaching change, or precise issues such as Rumph calling out Henderson about the all-star game pouting. There is no "acceptable" methodology that Gator fans will not call out as "sour grapes". It doesn't matter that some of their "wins" in head-to-head recruiting were not, you know, ACTUAL FLIPS AT ALL. It doesn't matter that you shouldn't label the mercurial mood changes of a flake like Henderson a "flip" when we were barely an actual choice at all before his estrogen spiked. In spite of all of this, Gator fans will continue to view the light through a one-way prism, where they can only imagine recruits wanting to leave other schools, and they can't possibly articulate a reason why these dissatisfied recruits would want to pick UF (even in light of all the evidence they admit to, such as having poor-recruiting assistants, making late offers to players, and having the same deficiencies as other schools, such as no obvious starting QB).
Second, more precisely, UF is going to magically flip a QB from someone. Because Florida. As stated above, even when a Gator fan admits that McEltooth has been late to offer, they still refuse to look at the past history of "flipping" as it relates to QBs. Many have pointed out that this is a rare occurrence, particularly when a coaching change is not involved. But, no, that will not deter the delusional Gator. We have to read posts about taking a potential QB flippee to see the statue of Danny Wuerffel, as if it's the Blarney Stone. It doesn't matter that far, far better coaches were coaching the QBs who have been turned into statues, no, somehow we are supposed to believe that it is the magical swampwater that will transform these flippees into Gator legends. So, on one hand, you have the blind ignorance among Gator fans to believe that Justin Fields WANTS to flip in the absence of a coaching change or oversigning at the QB position...which then gets magnified by the sheer stupidity of predictions that UM verbals will start flipping...because QB play. Months before the season starts, months before all recruits report, somehow a little-used QB recruited by our former coach is CONVINCING EVIDENCE that Miami will fail at QB once the season starts. Never mind that the EXACT SAME PROJECTION could be used against UF, with even more vigor, as they don't even have a fallback position as good as Malik Rosier, who has actually, you know, completed passes and won games against actual college competition.
Third, the UF coaches are amazing and the UM coaches suck. Because...geography/employer? This one baffles me. I'm old enough to remember when every Gator fan DESTROYED Randy Shannon for (a) being black (yes, this was a real thing, they used to couch their racism in slightly more acceptable terms, such as Randy was playing the "brother man" card when recruiting), (b) making the "this will help us more than they can ever know" comment, (c) complaining about an ACTUAL case of "running up the score", and (d) just about any other Randy quote, behavior, or activity. But, hey, now that Randy cashes checks from UF, all is forgiven, and he is a magical recruiter of SoFla talent, such that all the best kids will leave home simply to play in front of the mythically large (and racist) SEC crowds. On the other side of this is a brain-dead indictment of Richt, who admittedly lost to guys like Spurrier and Meyer, neither of which are employed by UF anymore. But that doesn't matter, because we should all ignore the quality and accomplishments of the coach, and simply focus on long-ago dominance established by long-gone coaches. Sure, now the delusional Gator fans can IGNORE race and slam Richt for tweeting about the need for a grad-transfer RB, while they embrace someone (Shannon) who they once vilified. Sorry, personal comment here, but I'm ashamed of Randy Shannon, as an alum, for actually accepting a job with a fanbase that once tore him apart for his skin color. Shannon could have had a position coaching job anywhere in the country, and he chose to go to UF.
Anyhow, continue to fight, fight, fight against the Evil Gator Empire. Use logic. Use facts. Expect them to brush those arguments off of their stubborn Gator hides. Eventually, we will be proven correct and superior.
Steve Spurrier isn't walking through that door.
Urban Meyer isn't walking through that door.
Let them have all the 4-stars who refuse to play the position everyone is recruiting them for, or who pout at all-star games because they aren't starting.
I like our guys.
And our guys are going to destroy their guys the next time they actually honor a contract to show up to our scheduled game.
That is all. Go Canes!
