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I haven’t really mentioned him de-committing for football purposes, but there’s always that possibility. Especially when the Texas schools come calling; let’s be honest here: both Miami and UF (more so UF at this point due to Napier’s lack of recruiting success compared to Mario) are in that second tier where even when we have big dogs commit, we have to fend off the UGA’s/Bama’s/Texas’s/A&M/OSU’s of the college football world. Those schools have the luxury of sitting back and waiting, ready to cherry pick whomever they choose. And why shouldn’t they feel this way?

Now where I’m leaning pretty heavily (and have said this before), is that I think he goes pro in baseball. MLB organizations have placed a premium on talented and projectable high school athletes because they’re cheaper to sign longterm (edit - even though high schoolers usually get more $$ than college guys the deeper into the draft, these guys get more bank for their buck, hence why I say "cheaper". Probably should change that to "better investment").

. They love stockpiling talent on fresh and raw guys rather than grabbing college players that despite more proven, have a bit more wear and tear and usually demand more money.

Lagway was throwing mid 80’s as a 14-year old, and while I haven’t seen too much recent film on him, he’s definitely a guy that could go high enough to warrant a serious discussion as to whether he wants to even entertain college. He’s got plenty of tools from a baseball perspective - speed, a live arm, great fielding, hits gap-to-gap and displays a little bit of pop. If he can add some muscle to his frame, obviously that power aspect increases.

As of now, I’d say he goes pro out of high school.
 
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WeBallinBoyz said:
I haven’t really mentioned him de-committing for football purposes, but there’s always that possibility. Especially when the Texas schools come calling; let’s be honest here: both Miami and UF (more so UF at this point due to Napier’s lack of recruiting success compared to Mario) are in that second tier where even when we have big dogs commit, we have to fend off the UGA’s/Bama’s/Texas’s/A&M/OSU’s of the college football world. Those schools have the luxury of sitting back and waiting, ready to cherry pick whomever they choose. And why shouldn’t they feel this way?

Now where I’m leaning pretty heavily (and have said this before), is that I think he goes pro in baseball. MLB organizations have placed a premium on talented and projectable high school athletes because they’re cheaper to sign. They love stockpiling talent on fresh and raw guys rather than grabbing college players that despite more proven, have a bit more wear and tear and usually demand more money.

Lagway was throwing mid 80’s as a 14-year old, and while I haven’t seen too much recent film on him, he’s definitely a guy that could go high enough to warrant a serious discussion as to whether he wants to even entertain college. He’s got plenty of tools from a baseball perspective - speed, a live arm, great fielding, hits gap-to-gap and displays a little bit of pop. If he can add some muscle to his frame, obviously that power aspect increases.

As of now, I’d say he goes pro out of high school.
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Also less wear and tear on his body as opposed to taking hits in college
 
flagator86 said:
keep believing that. Lagway not going anywhere
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As a football fan I don't like to admit it but if you've got a legit shot at being an early pick in the MLB draft, playing football is pretty stupid. You're getting guaranteed money right out of high school, ( a lot more than 99% of NIL deals football players get) you get to go right into a minor league system and if you do end up as a major leaguer, the average salary is significantly higher than NFL players, even quarterbacks. You can always go back to college on a football scholarship if your baseball career fizzles out. That's not even mentioning the physical toll that football takes on your body long term versus baseball.

Look, if Lagway was committed to us, I'd be hoping against hope that he doesn't sign a baseball contract but looking at it objectively, a first or second round pick in the draft would be pretty stupid to turn it down to play college football.
 
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DTP said:
As a football fan I don't like to admit it but if you've got a legit shot at being an early pick in the MLB draft, playing football is pretty stupid. You're getting guaranteed money right out of high school, ( a lot more than 99% of NIL deals football players get) you get to go right into a minor league system and if you do end up as a major leaguer, the average salary is significantly higher than NFL players, even quarterbacks. You can always go back to college on a football scholarship if your baseball career fizzles out. That's not even mentioning the physical toll that football takes on your body long term versus baseball.

Look, if Lagway was committed to us, I'd be hoping against hope that he doesn't sign a baseball contract but looking at it objectively, a first or second round pick in the draft would be pretty stupid to turn it down to play college football.
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Agree… in the past we always got highly rated guys to commit to the baseball program only for them to go pro because they were a first round pick or second
 
WeBallinBoyz said:
I haven’t really mentioned him de-committing for football purposes, but there’s always that possibility. Especially when the Texas schools come calling; let’s be honest here: both Miami and UF (more so UF at this point due to Napier’s lack of recruiting success compared to Mario) are in that second tier where even when we have big dogs commit, we have to fend off the UGA’s/Bama’s/Texas’s/A&M/OSU’s of the college football world. Those schools have the luxury of sitting back and waiting, ready to cherry pick whomever they choose. And why shouldn’t they feel this way?

Now where I’m leaning pretty heavily (and have said this before), is that I think he goes pro in baseball. MLB organizations have placed a premium on talented and projectable high school athletes because they’re cheaper to sign. They love stockpiling talent on fresh and raw guys rather than grabbing college players that despite more proven, have a bit more wear and tear and usually demand more money.

Lagway was throwing mid 80’s as a 14-year old, and while I haven’t seen too much recent film on him, he’s definitely a guy that could go high enough to warrant a serious discussion as to whether he wants to even entertain college. He’s got plenty of tools from a baseball perspective - speed, a live arm, great fielding, hits gap-to-gap and displays a little bit of pop. If he can add some muscle to his frame, obviously that power aspect increases.

As of now, I’d say he goes pro out of high school.
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Where do you think he could be drafted? UF could probably match it in NIL (they are desperate to hold on to him) leaving a first baseball contract in the future still available to him. I'm less optimistic he skips football for MLB than most.
 
Cryptical Envelopment said:
Where do you think he could be drafted? UF could probably match it in NIL (they are desperate to hold on to him) leaving a first baseball contract in the future still available to him. I'm less optimistic he skips football for MLB than most.
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Even if he makes it on campus, with what Florida has in the qb room, it’s almost assured that he would be a true freshman starter. The fans looking at that like he’s a sure fire can’t miss prospect is where the real tears will happen. I would have zero faith in napier developing him, which means he’d have to be the rare 4 star qb who is ready to Play immediately, and he’d have to overcome a vanilla, basic offense with no creativity. If he was smart, he’d entertain kiffin
 
Cryptical Envelopment said:
Where do you think he could be drafted? UF could probably match it in NIL (they are desperate to hold on to him) leaving a first baseball contract in the future still available to him. I'm less optimistic he skips football for MLB than most.
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He’d probably have to go within the first 10 rounds in order to consider forgoing college. Even round 10 is roughly a 150k slot and they normally overpay for high schoolers (and not just a couple grand overpay, a decent chunk of money at that) while underpaying college guys desperate to just get into a farm system (so they’ll settle for less money to do so). There’s also the possibility that Napier doesn’t let him play baseball since it obviously conflicts with Spring football. Ultimately it’ll be up to the kid which sport he pursues and how he wants to, but it could get dicey if Napier tries to get him to drop baseball and other programs like Arkansas, LSU, Texas, A&M, etc. tell him he can do both. Honestly I think he’ll need a season of redshirting anyways so being thrust into the fire at UF as the 2024 starting QB could be a disaster in itself.

Gator fans are trying to spin it like he won’t be successful at baseball and should solely commit to football like Tebow did, and then try baseball after. Obviously that’s a selfish take on their part. Maybe that happens, maybe it doesn’t. Curious to see what he ultimately decides, but Gator fans are delusional if they think he’s some ambassador that isn’t looking around at all his options.
 
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HurricanePhilly said:
Is Lagway even playing baseball this year?
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Not sure actually. Good point - I haven't really looked for stats recently. Just in the past.

USC is interested in Lagway btw. Article came out today on them beginning to up the pressure on him. Like I said, UF is delusional if they think he's 1000% sticking. UF will undoubtedly have to keep upping the bag, and they already paid a pretty penny to get him onboard early after the whole Rashada fiasco. Just wait til this season gets underway.

There are far better programs with more money and a better track record of developing QBs that want his services.
 
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WeBallinBoyz said:
Not sure actually. Good point - I haven't really looked for stats recently. Just in the past.

USC is interested in Lagway btw. Article came out today on them beginning to up the pressure on him. Like I said, UF is delusional if they think he's 1000% sticking. UF will undoubtedly have to keep upping the bag, and they already paid a pretty penny to get him onboard early after the whole Rashada fiasco. Just wait til this season gets underway.

There are far better programs with more money and a better track record of developing QBs that want his services.
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If he sticks with football he’d be an idiot to pass up Riley for Gapeier.
 
mirvin88 said:
If he sticks with football he’d be an idiot to pass up Riley for Gapeier.
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Yeah, disdain for UF aside, it's just a logical choice. USC can match and greatly exceed whatever UF offers anyways. The only thing UF has on any of these programs is the ability to offer immediate playing time as a true freshman.

Money, skill players surrounding him, coaching, development, surrounding city (don't give me the "USC is in the hood" crap, kids can easily circumvent that by going downtown + the campus is beautiful), quality of education + value of a degree....all advantage USC.
 
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Cryptical Envelopment said:
Very silly of you to talk in absolutes like that. You know better. UF is going to have a rough year, you're going to have to ride that out with your recruits, people are projecting you to regress which is a bad look for a new coach. Wheels could easily come flying off.
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while that may be true, y'all are in here talking like it's a guarantee that's not going to sign with UF as well. Keeping it a buck, i'm pretty sure it just stems from y'all having trouble locking down a top rated QB so some UM fans doing some projecting.

If/when he starts visiting other school(s), then i'll begin to worry but buddy has done everything to this point to show that UF is where he wants to be
 
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