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Yeah but careful what you wish for. You know the very next question will be, "Have any other schools made similar offers similar to UF?" You don't think dad Rashada will be like "Yeah we originally agreed to UM's offer, but then UF came back with a better one"?
I'd take him back for a fraction
Which is why he has all the leverage.
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Nope. Not at all.
A "LifeWallet offer" and a "UM offer" are not the same thing. And we didn't have Mario and Dan sitting in the same room while the Rashadas negotiated with John Ruiz.
That's what people (particularly Gaytors) continue to overlook. Miami has been doing NIL the right way, the way it was intended.
Additionally, we did not hold his LOI release hostage. Granted, he didn't sign an LOI with Miami, but what Florida is doing is SIGNIFICANTLY problematic, particularly if Florida doesn't back down and it were to turn into a lawsuit.
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Our NIL offers are legit. Lifewallet is a real company. I can guarantee you Ruiz is smart enough to not have his offers tied to "pay for play" in any way.
Also "pay for play" isn't a legal issue. It's an NCAA compliance issue.
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No disagreement here. But if they go on record saying they agreed to a deal with Lifewallet to enroll at UM, it will open up questions about did UM put them in touch with Ruiz, did we know or encourage an offer, in any way hint at a deal for money in exchange for a commitment? It's the NCAA. Even the smallest crack and they will come after us, legit or not.
I'm not sure why all that would come up in a legal case between Rashada and UF so he can get out of his LOI.
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That’s why Ruiz has deals with other athletes at other schools.
I think he likes to give deals to people with South Florida connections
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Because prosecutors like making a name for themselves. It's a slippery slope. Starts with why they want out of NIL. "Because they didn't pay us what they promised." What'd they promise? "$1billion!" What were the terms? "To enroll at UF." Was this the only school to make that type of offer? "No, so did Miami, Oregon, Ole Miss, etc." All of a sudden there's clear nationwide fraud in college football and YOU uncovered it. Talk shows, books, promotion, pay raise, clout.
That's why.
How the NCAA is not involved or at least inquiring on WTF is going on, is beyond me. There seem to recruiting rules being broken here.
This is the NCAA, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
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Look, I'm not disagreeing AT ALL with anyone on this and how it is different.
I'm just saying if the NCAA gets a chance, they will make a stink, even if it's just to create a "cloud" and hurt us in the public eye. We should know this from history. I mean, they just met with Ruiz this year (which UM set the meeting up) and it turned into "NCAA investigating Miami and Ruiz" headlines.
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Let me see if I can clarify.
Anyone can say anything they want. But there also has to be EVIDENCE. And I have clearly pointed out that the unfavorable EVIDENCE that goes against Florida involves the overlapping issues of the Gaytor Collective, the LOI non-release, and the ongoing multi-party (including UF employees) meetings.
Also, you are mixing and matching investigative bodies. You mention the NCAA, which has no subpoena power. But that is different from what I am talking about with a lawsuit filed by the Rashadas on the basis of a failure to grant an LOI release. THAT is where there would be allegations that the release/non-release from the LOI was linked to the NIL deal.
And if any lawyer wants to ask a question about MIAMI in that regard, the proper response would be "Objection, relevance". Because Jaden never signed an LOI with Miami.
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I get what you’re saying, that they’d love to make us the poster child, but based on the way it’s supposed to be done, there’s no way they can skip over UiF and a bunch of schools and just go after us. They’d get destroyed by the courts and lose even more power.
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I'm not mixing anything up. I know they are different governing bodies. Just like in my last post, even if the NCAA has zero teeth, if there is any reason (including statements from another governing body) they can put a cloud over us, they will. That in itself could hurt us, even if there's nothing to it. They tried doing this with the Shapiro thing. Where they got in trouble wasn't that they were trying to use statements from the court (which would have been totally legit), it was that they were paying an attorney to ask unrelated questions to try to get the dirt on us.Let me see if I can clarify.
Anyone can say anything they want. But there also has to be EVIDENCE. And I have clearly pointed out that the unfavorable EVIDENCE that goes against Florida involves the overlapping issues of the Gaytor Collective, the LOI non-release, and the ongoing multi-party (including UF employees) meetings.
Also, you are mixing and matching investigative bodies. You mention the NCAA, which has no subpoena power. But that is different from what I am talking about with a lawsuit filed by the Rashadas on the basis of a failure to grant an LOI release. THAT is where there would be allegations that the release/non-release from the LOI was linked to the NIL deal.
And if any lawyer wants to ask a question about MIAMI in that regard, the proper response would be "Objection, relevance". Because Jaden never signed an LOI with Miami.
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Prosecutors? This isn't a criminal case.
It would be a civil case between the Rashadas and UiF.
Again, if the lawsuit is over HOW THE NON-RELEASE FROM AN LOI has damaged Jaden's ability to enroll elsewhere and get an NIL deal, then the only relevance of other offers is to establish that Jaden has damages, i.e., that the non-release (after non-payment) constitutes a restriction on his ability to enroll elsewhere, play football, and earn NIL money.
The "what were the terms" question is IRRELEVANT as to the issue of non-release from the LOI. That's strictly a UiF issue, and anything else has no bearing on the case.
You're bringing up a bunch of other bull****, like "talk shows" and "books" that have no bearing on an actual lawsuit that would be filed over the failure to grant an LOI release.
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Since when has the NCAA not showed favoritism and looked the other way on obvious major violations? Just look at Bama. They get away with everything while other schools get hit for much less.
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Because the NCAA forfeited its ability to regulate proper NIL when they failed to take action years ago.
Now, that is DIFFERENT from a situation where there is FINALLY some real evidence of a linkage between UNIVERSITY issues (the LOI, the release from an LOI) and NON-UNIVERSITY issues (an NIL contract).
And, yes, if the NCAA can FINALLY sink its teeth into one of THOSE fact patterns, they can probably do something. But since the NCAA has no subpoena power, you'd imagine they'd have to wait for the case to be resolved and then beg for court transcripts like they did with Nevin Shapiro's lawyer.
Which, again, is why Florida would be WELL-ADVISED to grant the LOI release and/or settle any lawsuit quietly.
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