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Any tears to be drank over this?
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Yeah there’s two sides to this. There’s the Slurper and shill side and then there’s the realists. At some point there’s always an excuse so things start coming into some clarity. They’ve made a number of excuses for recruiting losses on their 247 board - Broke Miami not so broke and using illegal suspect NIL, promising Citizen the starting job, top 5 public university academic admissions rigors…
I’ll see what I can get.
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I couldn’t remember who I got that from, you or 423. Lol
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I’m curious what “missing credits” this kid didn’t have to make it into the Stanford of the swamp? They’re making it seem like UF has some unattainable academic requirements. Dude, stfu. The Pounceys somehow made it into UF. Like you gotta be smart to be a UF football player.
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Blake dropping a hammer on those delusional soulless inbreds.
The mental gymnastics they did when they didn’t get Jackson and now saying they don’t have a DT to start is everything this thread is built on.
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I will make this very simple, because the Gaytor fans are very dumb.
Lole was a transfer from a 4-year Power Five state university. Arizona State to be exact. Not a JuCo. Not some private school with limited academic offerings. High school GPA doesn't matter. And if Lole was ELIGIBLE to play football a couple of months ago, then his COLLEGIATE grades are sufficient.
So that means that only a few things are relevant to UiF and the UiF Admissions Office AND THE ATHLETIC DEPARTMENT:
1. Lole does not have ENOUGH credits - assuming that one or two Gaytor porsters are correct (which is a major accomplishment in and of itself), if Lole did not finish or pass enough classes recently (due to deaths in the family), then he may not have enough credits FOR ACADEMIC PROGRESS. Remember, the NCAA no longer wants athletes to have a 4.0 in 3 credits worth of classes. The NCAA wants to see these athletes making actual progress towards a degree. That's why we have the APR rankings. The "A" and the "P" stand for ACADEMIC PROGRESS. So in the eyes of UiF, if a third-year athlete is still a freshman academically, it may be a "no" for them, dawg (apologies @RVACane ).
2. Lole does not have the RIGHT credits - this one is poooooossssssssible, but it seems insane. For instance, if an athlete is going to transfer into the Gaytor School of Bizzzzziness and Brandz, but he was a music student at the last school, then he could be in the same boat as #1 above. The reason this seems INSANE goes back to my original comment above, that Arizona State is a huge state school (with a very decent School of Business, which is the curriculum of about 60% of P5 football players), and he would be transferring to another huge state school with a very decent School of Business. This might be the reason, and in some cases this is true, I just don't see it applying to this kid.
3. Lole does not have the GPA - now bear with me for a moment. This is a POSSIBILITY. It's possible that Lole failed a bunch of classes in the fall semester (I have no idea if he was ruled ineligible to play in the bowl game, which is usually a strong indicator of a terrible fall semester), and Lole could have followed a terrible Fall semester with a comparably horrible Spring semester. BUT, if this was the case, then he should be academically ineligible no matter where he transfers. Put another way, you can't just say "hey, I'm at a new school, I get to start all over again with my grades". If anything, THAT'S WHAT JUCO IS FOR. But but but, if he failed CERTAIN classes, this puts us back into #1 and/or #2 above. Lole's OVERALL GPA might be sufficient to be ELIGIBLE to play, but certain schools may back off due to a lack of overall Academic Progress and/or academic progress to the degree he is seeking.
So here's the bottom line.
Gaytor fans are INSANE. They are blaming their ADMISSIONS Office. And if this was a high school kid, maybe they'd have a point. BUT LOLE IS A TRANSFER FROM ANOTHER STATE SCHOOL. So...bad news, Gaytors...Lole will not single-handedly ruin the UiF President's annual speech to the incoming freshmen about how "this is the smartest freshman class ever with the highest GPAs ever". Admitting Lole as a transfer is not going to cause the US News & World Report's rankings to tank.
This is 100% a determination by the UiF Athletic Department that they are not taking a chance on Lole becoming academically ineligible in a semester or two due to an ongoing lack of Academic Progress.
Gaytor fans need to be smarter than this, but we all know that's never going to happen. If Lole "might have" become a Gaytor take, it would have been due to him taking enough credits this summer to get back on the Academic Progress bandwagon.
Not because his GPA suddenly and mysteriously went up. Not because Slingblade Billy Gaypier put the Admissions nerds in a headlock and convinced them that "GPA doesn't matter". Not because CAW got the UiF President drunk and convinced him to drop the whole "Harvard of the South" pursuit.
Just as Miami discovered with that linebacker recruit a month ago, kids who are asked to take a bunch of summer classes if they want to transfer...often choose another school that doesn't care as much about Academic Progress. At least with Miami, a small private school, it is possible that the kid we wanted (who was transferring from a small non-P5 school) did not have the RIGHT classes, but in the case of Florida and Lole, it was absolutely a case of "this kid is going to hurt our APR ranking and potentially be ineligible within a semester or two".
And here are the final few daggers.
First, if UiF is so concerned with APR due to ONE GUY, then you might be able to conclude that they are on the highway to the danger zone of APR sanctions. Which might be a very reasonable conclusion when you lose a bunch of guys to the Portal (and at least in Miami's case, most of our Portal losses were guys who either graduated or were **** close).
Second, there is now "no limit" on ICs, so even if Lole was a one-year rental (due to eventual academic ineligibility), he was certainly worth the risk at a position of SERIOUS Gaytor need.
Finally, and this one can be repeated, the Gaytor MYTH of "BD Billy's Army" of support staff and analysts has been exposed for its idiocy. There is nothing that is easier to spot than a bunch of F's on the transcript. EASY. Now, you might need an Admissions specialist to analyze whether "Accounting 101 - Accounting for Artists and Actors" is going to be an academic equivalent for "Accounting 201 - This Is The Class You Take If You Ever Want To Have A Business Degree", but I digress. Go back into @RVACane 's massive string of screenshots, and you will see some dopey Gaytor porster talking about how Gaypier was trying to get Lole on an Official Visit so they could sort out the academics. Yeah, THAT'S NOT WHAT AN OFFICIAL VISIT IS FOR. Imagine that a kid flies out to Hogtown, and then he spends his entire visit in the office of some administrator, poring over his transcript, registering for the next two years of classes, and crunching numbers to determine when the kid can (hypothetically) graduate. INSANE.
BD Billy Gaypier fvcked up on this one. Chased a kid with transcript problems. Let his internet writers get Gaytorz Brandz Nation hyped. Lost a kid to the University of Loserville, when there are plenty of crappy academic schools in the SEC that he would have preferred to lose a recruit to ("SEC-SEC-SEC!!!").
And now we have the wonderful product of all those Gaypier mistakes. An enormous string of Gaytor screenshots where they are falling all over themselves to run EVERY EXCUSE IN THE PLAYBOOK OF EXCUSES.
Gaytor Tears is glorious...
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Limp **** Billy (LDB), as was mentioned, is a nickname starting to gather momentum amongst the masses.
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He can stay BDB - Baby **** Billy
Seriously trumpy needs an nil
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It works on multiple levels, it can be a reference to size or tumescence or whatever you want it to be...
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