Game 5: 2/21/25 Princeton W (4-1)

It still early, but I think we hit on the pitching transfers/recruits but whiffed on the hitters. Tanner Smith is our best hitter and he’s not known for that.

Hope I’m wrong and we start seeing better AB’s. These transfer hitters don’t look good and Cuvet is struggling to top it off.
These transfer hitters appear on the level of James Davison, Hunter Tackett, Dario Gomez as guys who probably should not have been allowed to play here. Pitching may keep us afloat so it's hard to be completely irate but oh my god the offensive futility is alarming at best.
 

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I agree with the pop ups, but he also was the only guy to hit against fau. He’s aggressive and jumps on pitches while other guys have maybe been too timid. I get what you’re saying though
This is my concern. He popped up to RF and pulled a couple balls through the left side. That’s our best guy.

Again, I’m not trying to hate on Ogden. He’s been better than a bunch of other guys. But, is he hitting leadoff for anybody else in the ACC? I’m not seeing it.
 
Episcope went to an elite academic school, the Latin School of Chicago. That school has turned out a Nobel Prize winner, US Senator, Supreme Court Justice, etc. His father is the wealthy CEO of an investment firm. Kids like that go to the Ivy League.
 
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These transfer hitters appear on the level of James Davison, Hunter Tackett, Dario Gomez as guys who probably should not have been allowed to play here. Pitching may keep us afloat so it's hard to be completely irate but oh my god the offensive futility is alarming at best.
Ogden and Galvin are gonna hit if they're healthy. I think Marsh is in that same group too. Williams and Hudson I honestly don't know. People forget that in baseball even a good to great hitter is going to have alot more 1 hit games than multiple hit games. I say all that to say I think it's a little early to say that we struck out on the hitter transfers.
 
Ogden and Galvin are gonna hit if they're healthy. I think Marsh is in that same group too. Williams and Hudson I honestly don't know. People forget that in baseball even a good to great hitter is going to have alot more 1 hit games than multiple hit games. I say all that to say I think it's a little early to say that we struck out on the hitter transfers.
Only concern is Princeton starting pitcher is good, but will he be the best we see? I don't think so. I have concerns
 
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Only concern is Princeton starting pitcher is good, but will he be the best we see? I don't think so. I have concerns
Yeah I will say that you don't want to be a team that relies on home runs, but I am a little bit concerned how few we've hit so far because you have to have the threat of the home run even if you don't have to rely on it. I also think Dorian will take a step down average wise from last year. He hit .339 in ACC play, I will be shocked if he gets anywhere close to that again this year. I think Ogden or Galvin will lead us in average this year.
 
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Ballgame 3-1, pitching did its job against a team hitting for the first time this year. Gotta keep it going
I have a wait n see attitude. The pitching looks better, but hasn't been against good P4 competition.

The hitting is a glaring disappointment thus far. At this point in the year in college baseball, the hitting is normally ahead of pitching. What I've seen offensively can't compete in the ACC. This team will be in dogfights with Pitt and BC for the bottom of the ACC unless there's a drastic improvement in the hitting.

The "moment of truth" will be next week at Florida. Florida's lineup is filled with HR hitters. We'll see how good our pitching really is and how bad our hitting really is.

If Maimi has a bad showing, the pitchforks will be out for JD, including mine.
 
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I have a wait n see attitude. The pitching looks better, but hasn't been against good P4 competition.

The hitting is a glaring disappointment thus far. At this point in the year in college baseball, the hitting is normally ahead of pitching. What I've seen offensively can't compete in the ACC. This team will be in dogfights with Pitt and BC for the bottom of the ACC unless there's a drastic improvement in the hitting.

The "moment of truth" will be next week at Florida. Florida's lineup is filled with HR hitters. We'll see how good our pitching really is and how bad our hitting really is.

If Maimi has a bad showing, the pitchforks will be out for JD, including mine.
Similar I think the team is better but not much better than last year. I think the pitching is a lot better. The offense won’t strike out nine or 10 times but they will leave runners on base and strike out at the most in opportune times I believe that’s the kind of offense we have. I think we finish over 500 but don’t make the regionals. What’s interesting is if JD is fired I don’t think many candidates after him will have a much better resume. I wasn’t a pollard (Duke) or Walter (Wake) fan.
 
Wait our 5 hole hitting RF has to be pulled in the 6th for defense? What are we doing? We did this in the 7th on Tuesday. I guess RF defense is really important. More so than a 5 hole hitter.
Especially shocking after the announcer during one of the Niagara games said this could be one of the best defensive outfields ever at Miami.
 
I've done a lot of work on transfer players and there is an equivalence adjustment. Depending on the conference moving from and the conference moving to, there is a clear and distinct trend line.

Hitters see a more distinct reduction (which you'd expect as pitching increases).

ACC & SEC see similar results, though the SEC is clearly the toughest league.

Big 12 is a clear tier lower.

Sun Belt, Mountain West, C-USA, MVC, Big-10, American are next tier.

The further down you go, the more adjustment needed. You've seen multiple players who are POY types in their conference, who come up to SEC etc. and are total busts (Treyson Hughes types) and then transfer back down.

The type of hitter they are also impacts what to expect from them. Power over hit types tend to see biggest reductions (think Derek Williams type) will see real reductions on average.

OBP types tend to translate that skill pretty well, but not if they're HBP driven rather than zone awareness driven (again a Derek Williams knock).

If you K a lot at lower levels, you tend to hit even less.

Hitters with physical size, who control the barrel, and have rotational athleticism are the cluster type that's seen the most success moving up in my dataset.

Ogden is coming up from a low level without a ton of physical traits. You should expect a large drop in his numbers from his last level. Derek Williams should really see a large drop from his last stop. Hudson has size and rotational athleticism, I'd expect him to translate pretty well (90% or so). Marsh should be 90% as well.

I'm speaking in averages, of course, the data doesn't correlate at 1 (straight line), you will see some above, some below.

Transfer hitters also tend to start slowly at their new teams. A hypothesis is transition and adjustment takes some time, but that hasn't been tested in any way by me.

For pitchers, it's varied. The biggest key actually tends to be simply getting on the field. The SEC takes a ton of physical projection types and then sorts it out after a year. Just because a pitcher was on an SEC team doesn't actually portend success at the next stop. In fact, if they didn't even get an appearance at their last stop they probably aren't good and the team just cut bait. 0 IP pitchers tend to also be pretty meh at their next stops.

What you're looking for with arms is their stuff and underlying metrics. Also, poise and competitiveness on swing counts. Guys who throw 100 but throw a bunch of non-competitive pitches on 3-2 counts will tend to play down.

In my view, Miami did an excellent job of identifying pitchers to take and bring in. On the hitting side, I felt like they undervalued athleticism and looseness in their swings in favor of strength-based swings.

Add to it they took a bunch of strength-based swings and asked them to move positions and you've got a recipe for a lot of slow starts.
 
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I have a wait n see attitude. The pitching looks better, but hasn't been against good P4 competition.

The hitting is a glaring disappointment thus far. At this point in the year in college baseball, the hitting is normally ahead of pitching. What I've seen offensively can't compete in the ACC. This team will be in dogfights with Pitt and BC for the bottom of the ACC unless there's a drastic improvement in the hitting.

The "moment of truth" will be next week at Florida. Florida's lineup is filled with HR hitters. We'll see how good our pitching really is and how bad our hitting really is.

If Maimi has a bad showing, the pitchforks will be out for JD, including mine.
It's a tough gig at Miami for this reason.

Fair or not, fans of this program expect CWS and being an elite program. They simply aren't that. Miami isn't even close to a top-20 program any longer and I don't mean on-field play (that's obvious), I mean in support and infrastructure.

The SEC (minus Missouri) is truly another galaxy of infrastructure and support than what Miami is, when the suntan sport had maybe 20 programs trying to win.

If it's beat Florida or bust, you will be disappointed. That's merely the truth. And I'm not saying you shouldn't expect them to be better than Florida, that's your choice to make.

I'm simply saying you will be an unhappy fan if that's what you expect. Miami isn't close to Florida. I mean, not freaking close.

For me, my goal and focus is on building it year-by-year and simply getting better each year. I don't think we have the manager to win with (I said I'd hire 100 other coaches before Arteaga and it might've been more). So my hope is just to go back to the tournament this year.

(Again, everyone is free to loathe this stance and believe Miami should dominate college baseball, that's your right and choice.)
 
It's a tough gig at Miami for this reason.

Fair or not, fans of this program expect CWS and being an elite program. They simply aren't that. Miami isn't even close to a top-20 program any longer and I don't mean on-field play (that's obvious), I mean in support and infrastructure.

The SEC (minus Missouri) is truly another galaxy of infrastructure and support than what Miami is, when the suntan sport had maybe 20 programs trying to win.

If it's beat Florida or bust, you will be disappointed. That's merely the truth. And I'm not saying you shouldn't expect them to be better than Florida, that's your choice to make.

I'm simply saying you will be an unhappy fan if that's what you expect. Miami isn't close to Florida. I mean, not freaking close.

For me, my goal and focus is on building it year-by-year and simply getting better each year. I don't think we have the manager to win with (I said I'd hire 100 other coaches before Arteaga and it might've been more). So my hope is just to go back to the tournament this year.

(Again, everyone is free to loathe this stance and believe Miami should dominate college baseball, that's your right and choice.)
The chat vs Reality... Thank you @Lance Roffers
 
The chat vs Reality... Thank you @Lance Roffers
Why are we where we are?

2 incompetent and lazy hires b2b. Dimare clearly light years ahead of JD but not good enough to maintain the level of success fans expect at miami.

And then you follow dimare up with what most would call a failed pitching coach for nearly a decade and @Lance Roffers clearly stated he would take 100 or more coaches over jd (I agree wholeheartedly)

We dug our own grave. The game didn’t pass miami by due to infrastructure and more. The game passed us by because of complete and total incompetence by our athletic department.

Miami is a top 10-15 job in baseball with a competent AD. Period.
 
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