Hstokes1447
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There has been a lot of talk about talent and if Miami has more talent than VT & Duke. So I decided to take a deeper look at the front 7 recruiting between 2010-2013. Miami has had a very hard time recruiting in the most important area on defense during this time. VT & Duke has had success and it showed this season.
Miami 2010
DE David Perry 3 star (has never contributed)
DE Andrew Tallman 3 star (No longer on the team)
DT Jeffery Brown 2 star (no longer on the team)
DT Tavadis Glenn 4 star (never made it in)
LB Kalvin Cain 2 star (never really contributed)
LB Tyrone Cornelius 3 star (in the 2 deep)
LB James Gaines 2 star (starter)
LB Kevin Nelson 3 star (no longer on the team)
LB Travis Williams 4 star (no longer on the team)
VT 2010
DE Zack McCray 4 star (in 3 deep at TE)
DT Nick Acree 4 star (retired due to injury)
DT Derrick Hopkins 3 star (starting)
LB Brian Laiti 3 star (no longer on the team)
LB Chase Williams 3 star (in 2 deep)
Duke 2010
DE Jamal Bruce 2 star (starting)
DE Dezmond Johnson 3 star (in 3 deep)
DE Jordan Ondijo 2 star (in 2 deep)
DE Jamal Wallace 3 star (in 3 deep)
DT Will Bryant 2 star (contributing at NT)
DT Steven Ingram 2 star (in 3 deep)
LB kelby Brown 3 star (in 2 deep)
LB Clerance France 3 star (starting)
Miami 2011
DE Jalen Grimble 4 star (no longer on the team)
DE Anthony Chickillo 4 star (starter)
DE Ricardo Williams 3 star (no longer on the team)
DT Olsen Pierre 3 star (starter)
LB Eddie Johnson 3 star (no longer on the team)
LB Antonio Kinard 3 star (never made it in)
LB Gionni Paul 3 star (no longer on the team)
LB Denzel Perryman 3 star (starter)
VT 2011
DE Dewayne Alford 3 star (contributing on special teams)
DE Wedley Estime 3 star (no longer on the team)
DE Corey Marshall 4 star (in the rotation at DT)
DE Matt Roth 3 star (in 3 deep)
DE Justin Taylor 3 star (no longer on the team)
DT Kris Harley 4 star (in 3 deep)
DT Luther Maddy 2 star (starting)
Duke 2011
DE Kyler Brown 2 star (starting)
DE Lucas Brown 2 star (no longer on the team)
DE Mario Sanders 3 star (contributing on special teams)
LB Britton Grier 2 star (in DE rotation)
LB David Helton 3 star (in 2 deep)
LB LB Jon Woodruff 2 star (in 2 deep)
Miami 2012
DE Jelani Hamilton 4 star
DE Dwayne Hoilett 3 star
DE Tyriq McCord 4 star (in 2 deep)
DE Gabe Terry 3 star (no longer on the team)
DT Jacoby Briscoe 3 star (no longer on the team)
DT Dequan Ivery 3 star (no longer on the team)
DT Earl Moore 3 star (in the 3 deep)
LB Jawand Blue 3 star
LB Raphael Kirby 4 star (in the 2 deep)
LB Josh Witt 3 star (retired due to injury)
VT 2012
DE Woody Baron 3 star (in 2 dep)
DE Seth Dooley 3 star (contributing on specula teams)
DE Jarontay Jones 3 star (not on team)
DT Alston Smith 3 star (in 3 deep)
DT Nigel Williams 3 star (in 2 deep)
LB Deon Clarke 4 star (in 2 deep)
LB Trey Edmunds 4 star (moved to RB and is #1 on the depth chart)
LB Ken Ekanem 4 star (in 3 deep)
LB Dahman Mckinnon 3 star (in 3 deep)
LB Devin Vandyke 3 star (in 3 deep)
Duke 2012
DE Allen Jackson 3 star (contributing on special teams)
DE Michael Mann 2 star (in DE rotation)
DE A.J. Wolf 2 star (in 2 deep)
DE Carlos Wray 3 star (in 2 deep)
LB Keilin Rayner 3 star (in DT rotation)
LB Deion Williams 3 star (in 3 deep)
Miami 2013
DE Ufomba Kamalu 2 star (in the 2 deep)
DE AQM 4 star (in the 2 deep)
LB Devante Bond 3 star (never made it in)
LB Jermaine Grace 4 star (contributing on special teams)
LB Alex Figueroa 3 star (was in the 2 deep before injured)
VT 2013
DE Wyatt Teller 4 star (moved to OT and is redshirting)
LB Jamieon Moss 3 star (redshirting)
LB Andrew Motuapuaka (redshirting)
Duke 2013
DE Mike Ramsey 2 star (redshirting)
LB Dominic Zanca 3 star (redshirting)
The ugly truth is Miami has not recruiting well during this time in the front 7. Of the 32 front 7 commitments only 16 are actually on the roster THAT IS 50% GONE. You simply can not be successful on defense when you do not recruit well up front. The inability to retain players in the front 7 has completely eliminated the option to have competition or redshirt players. Competition is necessary because it brings out the best in players. Redshirting is extremely important when it comes to the front 7, because guys need time to build the strength needed to contribute in the trenches. Without having those luxuries Miami has been forced to play guys who have no business being on the field. I too believe the scheme sucks, but there is 0 talent or depth in the front 7 of this team.
Miami 2010
DE David Perry 3 star (has never contributed)
DE Andrew Tallman 3 star (No longer on the team)
DT Jeffery Brown 2 star (no longer on the team)
DT Tavadis Glenn 4 star (never made it in)
LB Kalvin Cain 2 star (never really contributed)
LB Tyrone Cornelius 3 star (in the 2 deep)
LB James Gaines 2 star (starter)
LB Kevin Nelson 3 star (no longer on the team)
LB Travis Williams 4 star (no longer on the team)
VT 2010
DE Zack McCray 4 star (in 3 deep at TE)
DT Nick Acree 4 star (retired due to injury)
DT Derrick Hopkins 3 star (starting)
LB Brian Laiti 3 star (no longer on the team)
LB Chase Williams 3 star (in 2 deep)
Duke 2010
DE Jamal Bruce 2 star (starting)
DE Dezmond Johnson 3 star (in 3 deep)
DE Jordan Ondijo 2 star (in 2 deep)
DE Jamal Wallace 3 star (in 3 deep)
DT Will Bryant 2 star (contributing at NT)
DT Steven Ingram 2 star (in 3 deep)
LB kelby Brown 3 star (in 2 deep)
LB Clerance France 3 star (starting)
Miami 2011
DE Jalen Grimble 4 star (no longer on the team)
DE Anthony Chickillo 4 star (starter)
DE Ricardo Williams 3 star (no longer on the team)
DT Olsen Pierre 3 star (starter)
LB Eddie Johnson 3 star (no longer on the team)
LB Antonio Kinard 3 star (never made it in)
LB Gionni Paul 3 star (no longer on the team)
LB Denzel Perryman 3 star (starter)
VT 2011
DE Dewayne Alford 3 star (contributing on special teams)
DE Wedley Estime 3 star (no longer on the team)
DE Corey Marshall 4 star (in the rotation at DT)
DE Matt Roth 3 star (in 3 deep)
DE Justin Taylor 3 star (no longer on the team)
DT Kris Harley 4 star (in 3 deep)
DT Luther Maddy 2 star (starting)
Duke 2011
DE Kyler Brown 2 star (starting)
DE Lucas Brown 2 star (no longer on the team)
DE Mario Sanders 3 star (contributing on special teams)
LB Britton Grier 2 star (in DE rotation)
LB David Helton 3 star (in 2 deep)
LB LB Jon Woodruff 2 star (in 2 deep)
Miami 2012
DE Jelani Hamilton 4 star
DE Dwayne Hoilett 3 star
DE Tyriq McCord 4 star (in 2 deep)
DE Gabe Terry 3 star (no longer on the team)
DT Jacoby Briscoe 3 star (no longer on the team)
DT Dequan Ivery 3 star (no longer on the team)
DT Earl Moore 3 star (in the 3 deep)
LB Jawand Blue 3 star
LB Raphael Kirby 4 star (in the 2 deep)
LB Josh Witt 3 star (retired due to injury)
VT 2012
DE Woody Baron 3 star (in 2 dep)
DE Seth Dooley 3 star (contributing on specula teams)
DE Jarontay Jones 3 star (not on team)
DT Alston Smith 3 star (in 3 deep)
DT Nigel Williams 3 star (in 2 deep)
LB Deon Clarke 4 star (in 2 deep)
LB Trey Edmunds 4 star (moved to RB and is #1 on the depth chart)
LB Ken Ekanem 4 star (in 3 deep)
LB Dahman Mckinnon 3 star (in 3 deep)
LB Devin Vandyke 3 star (in 3 deep)
Duke 2012
DE Allen Jackson 3 star (contributing on special teams)
DE Michael Mann 2 star (in DE rotation)
DE A.J. Wolf 2 star (in 2 deep)
DE Carlos Wray 3 star (in 2 deep)
LB Keilin Rayner 3 star (in DT rotation)
LB Deion Williams 3 star (in 3 deep)
Miami 2013
DE Ufomba Kamalu 2 star (in the 2 deep)
DE AQM 4 star (in the 2 deep)
LB Devante Bond 3 star (never made it in)
LB Jermaine Grace 4 star (contributing on special teams)
LB Alex Figueroa 3 star (was in the 2 deep before injured)
VT 2013
DE Wyatt Teller 4 star (moved to OT and is redshirting)
LB Jamieon Moss 3 star (redshirting)
LB Andrew Motuapuaka (redshirting)
Duke 2013
DE Mike Ramsey 2 star (redshirting)
LB Dominic Zanca 3 star (redshirting)
The ugly truth is Miami has not recruiting well during this time in the front 7. Of the 32 front 7 commitments only 16 are actually on the roster THAT IS 50% GONE. You simply can not be successful on defense when you do not recruit well up front. The inability to retain players in the front 7 has completely eliminated the option to have competition or redshirt players. Competition is necessary because it brings out the best in players. Redshirting is extremely important when it comes to the front 7, because guys need time to build the strength needed to contribute in the trenches. Without having those luxuries Miami has been forced to play guys who have no business being on the field. I too believe the scheme sucks, but there is 0 talent or depth in the front 7 of this team.