From the Perch: Pitt

[k9cane]

AILI

Roman, I mentioned this on the podcast this week, but do you listen to the Greg Cossell segment on Colin Cowherd's show? He says more than ever, scheming, concepts ,play-calling, personnel variation, matter. Can't just line up and run whatever you want over and over again and expect to see consistent results in todays game

 

[Earnest T. Bass]

@SigmundFriend @KrazyCane @Earnest T. Bass @Jaromir Jagr @Calvin


What is a Roman Marciante and what are his bona fides that would inspire me to care. It is clear why you like his comments due to its negative tone. Haters hate, but rarely produce anything of substance.

"A fly may sting a stately horse and make him wince, but one is but an insect, and the other is a horse still."

 

[404Usernamenotfound]

How does this idiot @Earnest T. Bass still have an account ?

 

[Roman Marciante]

Roman, I mentioned this on the podcast this week, but do you listen to the Greg Cossell segment on Colin Cowherd's show? He says more than ever, scheming, concepts ,play-calling, personnel variation, matter. Can't just line up and run whatever you want over and over again and expect to see consistent results in todays game

I did not. But in terms of the premise Orlovsky echoed the same sentiments when he said you needed to use tempo, formations, and personnel. Then said that you can have a core of plays you believe in (a blue suit) but the variation is how you differentiate it. (A tie, the shoes etc)

So I think the jury is out. Ultimately I see the same blue suit being worn week to week. Time for a new tie.

 

[k9cane]

I did not. But in terms of the premise Orlovsky echoed the same sentiments when he said you needed to use tempo, formations, and personnel. Then said that you can have a core of plays you believe in (a blue suit) but the variation is how you differentiate it. (A tie, the shoes etc)

So I think the jury is out. Ultimately I see the same blue suit being worn week to week. Time for a new tie.

If the Richt offense was a suit, it would be zoot suit

 

[Roman Marciante]

Nice to meet you Earnest. I really loved Earnest goes to camp. You know what I mean vern. And do not worry. I am the least bit a hater. Actually more of a let me watch film because it's fun to do and add my two cents type.

 

[Roman Marciante]

If the Richt offense was a suit, it would be zoot suit

hahahahahaha. Right. Because a zoot suit was the in thing around 30 years ago.

 

[Earnest T. Bass]

Nice to meet you Earnest. I really loved Earnest goes to camp. You know what I mean vern. And do not worry. I am the least bit a hater. Actually more of a let me watch film because it's fun to do and add my two cents type.

Thank you for your kind and humorous response. It is comforting to now know that there two people on this message board who are not haters.

 

[Earnest T. Bass]

How does this idiot @Earnest T. Bass still have an account ?

A very good question, by the way, calling someone an idiot is a personal attack, and for some irony, could put your account in jeopardy. Go figure!

 

[305to954]

I am going to apologize in advance. I know this might be one of the more technical intrinsic pieces I have done. At anytime anyone has a question about anything hit me up. @ my name in here and I will do my best to explain anything. We are all learning in here my friends.

On the blitz’s I agree. I haven’t seen one of our QBs beat a corner blitz all year. Last time I remember is 12. 12 would recognize it at times. But Perry never seems to at all..I catch my self saying almost every game please throw into the blitz..now it that on the coaches more than who is behind center? Cause I can’t imagine a QB coach or OC not teaching that. That’s football 101

 

[Calvin]

My friend. After two years developing kosi, three years developing Rosier, they are responsible for being the least accurate passers in the ACC this year. This isn't really lending credence to the notion of "developing" them. This is a very rigid system to perform under. I did play the position well enough to understand the throws that are being made and the level of difficulty required to make them vs certain coverage.

Mark Richt has a philosophy of calling a play, and expecting his team to beat it regardless of what coverage is being called. My question to you is, do you think this is a better approach then rather "taking what the defense gives you."

At this point you do not have to take it from me. But every national telecaster the past several weeks has questioned the offense from a systematic standpoint. ESPN game day has crucified the quarterback play in front of a national audience. I had the unique opportunity to interview Dan Orlovsky two weeks ago and he simply called this offense "archaic."

You do not and IMO will not see development of a quarterback until he devises a system that is more quarterback friendly.

First thing first, rosier doesnt count in the sense that he was never going to be a consistently accurate passer which is one the main reasons coach richt told him he would never play for him. But trying to use rosier as an indictment on this offensive system is a bad example, at the same going 10 & 0 with this same system and rosier is a credit to coach richt.

Coach richt will call a play, but the plays he calls have several options, so the qb development part of this offense is real, he doesnt want his qb's getting everybody lined, than looking over to the sideline for guidance, no, he trains them to be able to run the show. Which is why studying after practice is a must for this offense.
Those same commentators you refering to dont make those comments about jim harbaugh and michigan, why, because they have an o-line. If this was as archaic as people trying to make it seem, than why are guys almost always are wide open all game, the plays are their to be made, the qb has to be ready an accurate.

To be clear, im not saying its the best offense cause traditionally its been kind of a helter skelter offense, but you can win with it in any gam against anybody. And the thing about coach richt, he not gone get conservative based on an opponent, in fact the tougher the opponent the more aggressive his play calls normally become.

 

[Roman Marciante]

First thing first, rosier doesnt count in the sense that he was never going to be a consistently accurate passer which is one the main reasons coach richt told him he would never play for him. But trying to use rosier as an indictment on this offensive system is a bad example, at the same going 10 & 0 with this same system and rosier is a credit to coach richt.

Coach richt will call a play, but the plays he calls have several options, so the qb development part of this offense is real, he doesnt want his qb's getting everybody lined, than looking over to the sideline for guidance, no, he trains them to be able to run the show. Which is why studying after practice is a must for this offense.
Those same commentators you refering to dont make those comments about jim harbaugh and michigan, why, because they have an o-line. If this was as archaic as people trying to make it seem, than why are guys almost always are wide open all game, the plays are their to be made, the qb has to be ready an accurate.

To be clear, im not saying its the best offense cause traditionally its been kind of a helter skelter offense, but you can win with it in any gam against anybody. And the thing about coach richt, he not gone get conservative based on an opponent, in fact the tougher the opponent the more aggressive his play calls normally become.

After watching all year and breaking down every single game. I disagree on many counts. Which is fine. We can agree to disagree. 57th 60th and 93rd ranked offenses shouldn't be acceptable here regardless of the system.

The points per game aren't matching either. The 4 game losing streak canes averaged 15 ppg.

The 4 game losing streak in 2016 the canes averaged 97 rush yards a game

Those aren't positive trends. Neither is averaging 4 game losing streaks every year.

Learned a lot about this offense this year. Two things I want to go on record about and you sound like a respectable poster who is pro richt abilities vs the consensus.

But a) he will change nothing and be fired in 2 years.

Or b) he will completely overhaul the offense or get an oc because the offense was in fact archaic.

Something has to give. 7-5 was unacceptable.

 

[Calvin]

After watching all year and breaking down every single game. I disagree on many counts. Which is fine. We can agree to disagree. 57th 60th and 93rd ranked offenses shouldn't be acceptable here regardless of the system.

The points per game aren't matching either. The 4 game losing streak canes averaged 15 ppg.

The 4 game losing streak in 2016 the canes averaged 97 rush yards a game

Those aren't positive trends. Neither is averaging 4 game losing streaks every year.

Learned a lot about this offense this year. Two things I want to go on record about and you sound like a respectable poster who is pro richt abilities vs the consensus.

But a) he will change nothing and be fired in 2 years.

Or b) he will completely overhaul the offense or get an oc because the offense was in fact archaic.

Something has to give. 7-5 was unacceptable.

Nobody knows what's acceptable not acceptable on offense more than coach richt, im almost willing to bet since he's been an oc and headcoach that this year was probably the least amount of offensive talent he ever had to work with. You know he didnt want to have nothing to do with rosier coming in from close to day 1. But once kaaya left, that set the qb position back some. Coach richt knew rosier wasnt an accurate passer. That's one of the main things coach richt looks at, next, protect the ball, could be first, but those go hand in hand. Point being, the qb position was one of the weakest units on the team, than the reshuffled o-line, True freshmen tightends, Ahmon hurt, jeff thomas half azzin it, cager playing 50/50 ball(drop one, catch one), basicall no production from the receivers as well.

So coach richt did the best thing and made certain decisions for the future, like benching starting & perry. Several freshmen got playing time, and several freshmen are redshirting. Having gaynor in position to redshirt is another smart move. But particularly redshirting reed & campbell as well were excellent moves.

So now, the o-line for next year could possibly be scaife at left tackle, navaughn at left guard, gaynor at center, reed at right guard and campbell at right tackle. Than when you add to that mix a healthy irvin and brevin jordan after a year in the weight room, that will makes us a more physical offense and better offense. With the personnel and injuries this year, there was only so much creativity that could be done. Coach richt knows what he is doing, the offensive system he's running is fine, the players have to attack it, understand it, cause if you're an athlete, this is a receiver friendly offense, and tightends, designed for all of them to make plays galore.

Execution is the key, and to be clear its not about richt per say, cause if i thought he didnt know wtf he was doing i'd light em up. But guys have been open, think about it, last year berrios made plays all season long, the year before that Ahmon was making the plays, herdon, njoku, walton, this offense is designed for playmakers.

If we keep eguak, tarquin and neal doesnt get scared of the competition here and pick bama, we straight.

 

[The Owl]

neal doesnt get scared of the competition here and pick bama

You think there is more competition at o-line in Coral Gables compared to Tuscaloosa?

 

[Roman Marciante]

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Nobody knows what's acceptable not acceptable on offense more than coach richt, im almost willing to bet since he's been an oc and headcoach that this year was probably the least amount of offensive talent he ever had to work with. You know he didnt want to have nothing to do with rosier coming in from close to day 1. But once kaaya left, that set the qb position back some. Coach richt knew rosier wasnt an accurate passer. That's one of the main things coach richt looks at, next, protect the ball, could be first, but those go hand in hand. Point being, the qb position was one of the weakest units on the team, than the reshuffled o-line, True freshmen tightends, Ahmon hurt, jeff thomas half azzin it, cager playing 50/50 ball(drop one, catch one), basicall no production from the receivers as well.

So coach richt did the best thing and made certain decisions for the future, like benching starting & perry. Several freshmen got playing time, and several freshmen are redshirting. Having gaynor in position to redshirt is another smart move. But particularly redshirting reed & campbell as well were excellent moves.

So now, the o-line for next year could possibly be scaife at left tackle, navaughn at left guard, gaynor at center, reed at right guard and campbell at right tackle. Than when you add to that mix a healthy irvin and brevin jordan after a year in the weight room, that will makes us a more physical offense and better offense. With the personnel and injuries this year, there was only so much creativity that could be done. Coach richt knows what he is doing, the offensive system he's running is fine, the players have to attack it, understand it, cause if you're an athlete, this is a receiver friendly offense, and tightends, designed for all of them to make plays galore.

Execution is the key, and to be clear its not about richt per say, cause if i thought he didnt know wtf he was doing i'd light em up. But guys have been open, think about it, last year berrios made plays all season long, the year before that Ahmon was making the plays, herdon, njoku, walton, this offense is designed for playmakers.

If we keep eguak, tarquin and neal doesnt get scared of the competition here and pick bama, we straight.

The offensive system is not fine. It was 57th with the most talent and good qb in your opinion.
Lots of excuses for the coaches in this thread.
Blames it ALL on players
Players take some blame
Coach takes none?

I write a piece highlighting coaching and player faults. Objective.

 

[duke4heisman]

Nobody knows what's acceptable not acceptable on offense more than coach richt, im almost willing to bet since he's been an oc and headcoach that this year was probably the least amount of offensive talent he ever had to work with. You know he didnt want to have nothing to do with rosier coming in from close to day 1. But once kaaya left, that set the qb position back some. Coach richt knew rosier wasnt an accurate passer. That's one of the main things coach richt looks at, next, protect the ball, could be first, but those go hand in hand. Point being, the qb position was one of the weakest units on the team, than the reshuffled o-line, True freshmen tightends, Ahmon hurt, jeff thomas half azzin it, cager playing 50/50 ball(drop one, catch one), basicall no production from the receivers as well.

So coach richt did the best thing and made certain decisions for the future, like benching starting & perry. Several freshmen got playing time, and several freshmen are redshirting. Having gaynor in position to redshirt is another smart move. But particularly redshirting reed & campbell as well were excellent moves.

So now, the o-line for next year could possibly be scaife at left tackle, navaughn at left guard, gaynor at center, reed at right guard and campbell at right tackle. Than when you add to that mix a healthy irvin and brevin jordan after a year in the weight room, that will makes us a more physical offense and better offense. With the personnel and injuries this year, there was only so much creativity that could be done. Coach richt knows what he is doing, the offensive system he's running is fine, the players have to attack it, understand it, cause if you're an athlete, this is a receiver friendly offense, and tightends, designed for all of them to make plays galore.

Execution is the key, and to be clear its not about richt per say, cause if i thought he didnt know wtf he was doing i'd light em up. But guys have been open, think about it, last year berrios made plays all season long, the year before that Ahmon was making the plays, herdon, njoku, walton, this offense is designed for playmakers.

If we keep eguak, tarquin and neal doesnt get scared of the competition here and pick bama, we straight.

LOLOLOLOLOOOLOOOLOLOOOOOL

 

[Calvin]

You think there is more competition at o-line in Coral Gables compared to Tuscaloosa?

Based on attrition it will be, at UM neal will becoming in at no.3 minimum on the depth chart when it comes to tackles. Right now he couldnt beat out scaife, so he can hang that up, next he'll have a redshirt freshmen/campbell and redshirt junior in herbert, than if tarq sticks. At bama, 2 seniors and 2 juniors, much easier for bama!

 

[duke4heisman]

Based on attrition it will be, at UM neal will becoming in at no.3 minimum on the depth chart when it comes to tackles. Right now he couldnt beat out scaife, so he can hang that up, next he'll have a redshirt freshmen/campbell and redshirt junior in herbert, than if tarq sticks. At bama, 2 seniors and 2 juniors, much easier for bama!

LOLOLOLOLOOOLOOOLOLOOOOOL

 

[LokiCane]

The only joy this year was watching the Defense, the running backs and Travis Homer's killer block on ST... RIP #81 Pitt.

 

[MovingZen]

Is it FTP or is it STP? I think it's STP.