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How am i changing the subject? Any if it's all about stars, why are you bringing up coaching?
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How am i changing the subject? Any if it's all about stars, why are you bringing up coaching?
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My argument is that elite programs recruit top tiers recruits consistently. I never said coaching doesn't matter. You are comparing Miami to "dozens and dozens" of programs (which is ridiculous) and going away from the subject. Miami has not recruited enough of the top tier recruits to separate themselves from the "dozens" of programs.
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Why is it ridiculous? My point is that here are plenty of programs who outperform based on their recruiting rankings.
Opinion only here.... These star ratings are much like stop signs! Some swear by them... Some just slow down briefly to acknowledge them. A 3 star recruit may be a 4 or 5 star with the right coaching and guidance. And likewise..so golden could turn a bunch of 5 stars, into 3 stars! Its all in the coaches perception, and what the staff feels they can get from them,.. Or get them turned into! Now raw talent and speed and such....some things you just can't teach! But in the end..the stars on AVERAGE, don't lie. Maybe they don't tell the whole truth...but they don't outright lie!!
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I agree with the premise, but **** the BCS title era from 2002 on. That SEC bias was ridiculous.
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Marcelo2988
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Exactly. Stars matter.
There's plenty of data that corroborates this.
It's not an exact science, but they matter.
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ok, so to what do we attribute it to when teams sign top 10 classes but then proceed to have extremely bad seasons?
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How many of them win a NC? You can outperform your stars, but if you don't have enough stars that performance isn't getting you a ship. Last I checked the goal was another ship.
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how does one separate out bias into their scientific studies?
ie - the sites that do the rankings skewing the players higher that sign with the teams that win more
ie - the sites that do the rankings skewing the players higher that sign with the teams that win more
The al golden syndrome!! Not knowing how to coach/ utilize the talent you recruited! Not having the right supporting staff,.. S&c programs...you name it!! Or for short....the "Al Golden syndrome"
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alright so,
when a team does well, it's because they recruited a high ranked class?
but, when they dont do well despite their high ranked classes, its because of poor coaching?
it seems we need more information & other variables to consider
The diff tween a w, and a l,..can be as simple as a couple wrong play calls....a missed play be a player too late in the game to recover from...an incredibly good play by the opposition. But if it becomes commonplace..my opinion is.. You have to also look at the staff. Not every loss or win,.. Is on the team..or the coaches. But if it becomes habitual..you may want to consider the training/coaching
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wonder how the washington huskies kids are ranked. Looking at Clemson's ranking on scout, says they have no chance of going to back to back championship games. We will get ours, just because we are Miami, but a competent head coach will do wonders for our program.
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Take all the 5 stars in this 2017 class ,whatever the number is -lets say 30.
Then take your best 30 three star guys based on your best judgement.
Guaranteed the 5 stars pan out better.
Then take your best 30 three star guys based on your best judgement.
Guaranteed the 5 stars pan out better.
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