FL NIL Rule Could Prove to be a Major Disadvantage (edit: already being amended)

[Big Pimpin Cane]

Edit: a bill was introduced to amend the NIL law already so this issue should not be a hindrance anymore!

So NIL rules are done state by state. There is no national standard yet. That means we could be facing a major issue moving forward. As happy as I am that FSU lost their best recruit today, the reason why have major implications for us as well.

In Florida, the way the NIL rule is written is that the school/coach can’t help the kid obtain any NIL deals in any way. The kid has to find it on his own and the school can’t solicit NIL deals from boosters. The school isn’t even supposed to point the kid in the right direction.

While it may not seem to be big deal most of the time, it certainly is when a coach is brokering a secret deal funded by Barstool, allegedly for $2 million. It meant that FSU never stood a chance cause Deon was able to get him a deal that even if FSU could have gotten him, they legally wouldn’t be allowed to do so. The rules in Mississippi are different, and have a major advantage to JSU.

Furthermore, it’s why the NCAA investigating NIL is a total joke too. They refused to legislate it and left it up to the states, but now different states have different rules that can give certain schools a major advantage. How about you focus on an “even” playing field like you’re supposed to rather than starting another witch-hunt after us over $500 deals??? Guaranteed this $2 million deal doesn’t even get a sniff from them.

 

[Robbymoto]

So NIL rules are done state by state. There is no national standard yet. That means we could be facing a major issue moving forward. As happy as I am that FSU lost their best recruit today, the reason why have major implications for us as well.

In Florida, the way the NIL rule is written is that the school/coach can’t help the kid obtain any NIL deals in any way. The kid has to find it on his own and the school can’t solicit NIL deals from boosters. The school isn’t even supposed to point the kid in the right direction.

While it may not seem to be big deal most of the time, it certainly is when a coach is brokering a secret deal funded by Barstool, allegedly for $2 million. It meant that FSU never stood a chance cause Deon was able to get him a deal that even if FSU could have gotten him, they legally wouldn’t be allowed to do so. The rules in Mississippi are different, and have a major advantage to JSU.

Furthermore, it’s why the NCAA investigating NIL is a total joke too. They refused to legislate it and left it up to the states, but now different states have different rules that can give certain schools a major advantage. How about you focus on an “even” playing field like you’re supposed to rather than starting another witch-hunt after us over $500 deals??? Guaranteed this $2 million deal doesn’t even get a sniff from them.

In before a bunch of uneducated speculation and opinions - perhaps @apfenny3 could chime in?

 

[BS85]

The NCAA needs to be replaced, they're literally worse than useless

 

[Big Pimpin Cane]

The NCAA needs to be replaced, they're literally worse than useless

They’re well down the road to obsoletion. Emmertt even admitted as much recently.

 

[jackbenimble71]

wrong. this is a great thing and what makes our country great. what should happen is UF, FSU and Miami AD's need to get together and come up with rules and lobby FL state government. what works for us may not work in another state for those schools. we don't want a one shoe fits all for the entire US. we should make our own rules for schools in Florida and they should constantly get updated to better suit our schools.

 

[Big Pimpin Cane]

wrong. this is a great thing and what makes our country great. what should happen is UF, FSU and Miami AD's need to get together and come up with rules and lobby FL state government. what works for us may not work in another state for those schools. we don't want a one shoe fits all for the entire US. we should make our own rules for schools in Florida and they should constantly get updated to better suit our schools.

I never said a word about the democratic process. I love states’ rights. I think it’s the science lab of democracy and one of the most important things that makes our country great.

However, when you have a “national body” that is supposedly legislating the rules then there needs to be a uniform rule.

Obviously, FL is gonna need to change the rules or the major schools are gonna suffer. I would expect a hard lobbying to happen stat. But for the time-being, and for this recruiting year, it is a disadvantage. Not a word of what I posted is wrong.

You’re wrong to conflate my argument that the FL NIL rule, as currently written is a detriment when compared to the NIL rules in other states, is analogous to me arguing that states’ rights aren’t important.

 

[Cane Fan 4 Life]

So NIL rules are done state by state. There is no national standard yet. That means we could be facing a major issue moving forward. As happy as I am that FSU lost their best recruit today, the reason why have major implications for us as well.

In Florida, the way the NIL rule is written is that the school/coach can’t help the kid obtain any NIL deals in any way. The kid has to find it on his own and the school can’t solicit NIL deals from boosters. The school isn’t even supposed to point the kid in the right direction.

While it may not seem to be big deal most of the time, it certainly is when a coach is brokering a secret deal funded by Barstool, allegedly for $2 million. It meant that FSU never stood a chance cause Deon was able to get him a deal that even if FSU could have gotten him, they legally wouldn’t be allowed to do so. The rules in Mississippi are different, and have a major advantage to JSU.

Furthermore, it’s why the NCAA investigating NIL is a total joke too. They refused to legislate it and left it up to the states, but now different states have different rules that can give certain schools a major advantage. How about you focus on an “even” playing field like you’re supposed to rather than starting another witch-hunt after us over $500 deals??? Guaranteed this $2 million deal doesn’t even get a sniff from them.

It was never going to work anyway when $$$$ was involved. Bigger schools had the advantage before NIL and they will still have it afterwards.

With that being said, my interest is peaked with Hunter signing that huge deal and going to a smaller school. I

Hopefully these kids hire lawyers to see what they are contractually obligated to and read the small print.

We all know some of the highly sought after athletes won’t pan out or get injured and I’m sure in the contract it’ll be “paid by game” to protect their investment or whatever.

Laws and rules will always be broken and cheating/recruiting in college sports won’t disappear.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

So NIL rules are done state by state. There is no national standard yet. That means we could be facing a major issue moving forward. As happy as I am that FSU lost their best recruit today, the reason why have major implications for us as well.

In Florida, the way the NIL rule is written is that the school/coach can’t help the kid obtain any NIL deals in any way. The kid has to find it on his own and the school can’t solicit NIL deals from boosters. The school isn’t even supposed to point the kid in the right direction.

While it may not seem to be big deal most of the time, it certainly is when a coach is brokering a secret deal funded by Barstool, allegedly for $2 million. It meant that FSU never stood a chance cause Deon was able to get him a deal that even if FSU could have gotten him, they legally wouldn’t be allowed to do so. The rules in Mississippi are different, and have a major advantage to JSU.

Furthermore, it’s why the NCAA investigating NIL is a total joke too. They refused to legislate it and left it up to the states, but now different states have different rules that can give certain schools a major advantage. How about you focus on an “even” playing field like you’re supposed to rather than starting another witch-hunt after us over $500 deals??? Guaranteed this $2 million deal doesn’t even get a sniff from them.

Well bad news for FSU but good news for us. They are saying it's a total coincidence and that the timing has nothing to do with what happened to FSU today....but apparently Florida is going to amend the rule to make it easier for the state schools to attain NIL deals.

Feels like everything is finally going our way.

Florida NIL Bill Introduced Hours After FSU Loses Top Recruit

The amended bill would strike language that prohibited schools from “causing compensation to be directed” to athletes.

www.si.com

 

[AtlAtty]

Well bad news for FSU but good news for us. They are saying it's a total coincidence and that the timing has nothing to do with what happened to FSU today....but apparently Florida is going to amend the rule to make it easier for the state schools to attain NIL deals.

Feels like everything is finally going our way.

Florida NIL Bill Introduced Hours After FSU Loses Top Recruit

The amended bill would strike language that prohibited schools from “causing compensation to be directed” to athletes.

www.si.com

Hilarious coincidence. Oh well.

 

[Juanka]

wrong. this is a great thing and what makes our country great. what should happen is UF, FSU and Miami AD's need to get together and come up with rules and lobby FL state government. what works for us may not work in another state for those schools. we don't want a one shoe fits all for the entire US. we should make our own rules for schools in Florida and they should constantly get updated to better suit our schools.

 

[apfenny3]

In before a bunch of uneducated speculation and opinions - perhaps @apfenny3 could chime in?

I'd like a federal law passed just to make it easier to keep track and so some states/schools don't have a distinct advantage. Florida did just introduce an amendment today that would allow the universities to help facilitate deals. My guess is this will include officially forming "collectives" and streamline that process.

 

[jifarina]

Doesn't UF have a "booster" group to facilitate NIL deals? Believe its called the gator collective.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

Doesn't UF have a "booster" group to facilitate NIL deals? Believe its called the gator collective.

This is going to be a standard, year round, permanent department in every athletic department (who is trying to realistically compete) throughout the entire country.

All I know is that between no state tax, new boosters with deep pockets, and a beautiful location......UM is poised to do well in this new day and age of college football.

 

[canesplaymaker]

The NCAA is eager for congress to act on this. I think the Texas deal and prime will force their hand

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

The NCAA is eager for congress to act on this. I think the Texas deal and prime will force their hand

As long as they pass some sort of CONSISTENT guidelines, regardless of state, that EVERY university must adhere to.....I don't see this being any sort of negative for us going forward. See my post above. We have some built in advantages within this new landscape.

 

[Tad Footeball]

wrong. this is a great thing and what makes our country great. what should happen is UF, FSU and Miami AD's need to get together and come up with rules and lobby FL state government. what works for us may not work in another state for those schools. we don't want a one shoe fits all for the entire US. we should make our own rules for schools in Florida and they should constantly get updated to better suit our schools.

Federalism is actually what makes our country great. Your argument feels good to espouse as on the surface it appears to be based on maximum "freedom" and local level "wisdom" but in an instance like this it swings the pendulum entirely too far toward states' rights and sacrifices what verrrrry little remains of any competitive balance integrity in college sports.

If you were talking rules about high school athletics then I'm 100% in your corner. But when you're talking a mishmash of public and private universities that belong to athletic conferences that span many states and (for now) a national governing body then we need some semblance of a universal standard on this front.

 

[Tad Footeball]

Hilarious coincidence. Oh well.

I know Chip LaMarca. He's a good guy. He's also been on the forefront on getting college athletes paid in this state so I actually believe that he WAS working on amending our law.

That said, Chip is also a YUGE FSU fan and is a verrrrry friendly ear to their boosters and alumni. The chances of him being oblivious to what went down today with FSU and Hunter and Deion and this all being a coincidence are less than Alex Mirabal winning a dunk competition.

 

[Big Pimpin Cane]

Well bad news for FSU but good news for us. They are saying it's a total coincidence and that the timing has nothing to do with what happened to FSU today....but apparently Florida is going to amend the rule to make it easier for the state schools to attain NIL deals.

Feels like everything is finally going our way.

Florida NIL Bill Introduced Hours After FSU Loses Top Recruit

The amended bill would strike language that prohibited schools from “causing compensation to be directed” to athletes.

www.si.com

Hilarious coincidence. Oh well.

You gotta love that it screwed FSU only and now it will be changed before it can effect us. Beautiful!

 

[DancingBear]

NIL has been operated by schools like Alabama ,Georgia,Clemson ,and other SEC schools for a long time .Boosters would make a tax deductible contribution to local churches who would take care of the athlete and family.They would also give them a bag of cash.This created an unfair advantage to the schools who cheated .The NIL has now leveled the playing field and the corrupt NCAA who condone the actions by the above schools no longer controls the process.

 

[caneworld]

I'd like a federal law passed just to make it easier to keep track and so some states/schools don't have a distinct advantage. Florida did just introduce an amendment today that would allow the universities to help facilitate deals. My guess is this will include officially forming "collectives" and streamline that process.

Florida legislature can make it retroactive to the time the first deal was passed, since this is all brand new area of operation for the schools and NCAA