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FHSAA: still on

Stylie said:
This probaly wouldn't be an option but if it was, it would be great for us. Assuming they move football to the spring, how great if some of these 2021 guys could graduate early, and join the team in January?
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That would be great. It’s just going to be a giant cluster**** if we wait until spring. Top guys will leave and leave holes in rosters. Will these EE kids have to count spring as one of their years of eligibility? Leaves a lot of questions on the board.
 
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NC_Canes_11 said:
The American Academy of Pediatrics thinks schools should open in the fall. Funny how everybody screamed “listen to the medical professionals,” until it didn’t fit their narrative anymore.

www.heritage.org

School Closures Threaten Kids More Than COVID-19, Pediatricians Say

Access to education is foundational to American society and fundamental to the American ideal of providing equal opportunities. Yet amid COVID-19 shutdowns, many children have very limited or even no access to formal education. That has caused numerous problems for some children, including a...
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Linking to the actual report by the AAP. The report is lengthy, but for any parents with school-age children out in CIS world (or for anyone who doesn't trust the Heritage Foundation as an unbiased source), it's a worthwhile read. And for anyone suspicious of the Heritage Foundation, the AAP unequivocally states the goal should be open schools with instruction in the classroom (taking various precautions, of course).
 
AllAboutTheU said:
That would be great. It’s just going to be a giant cluster**** if we wait until spring. Top guys will leave and leave holes in rosters. Will these EE kids have to count spring as one of their years of eligibility? Leaves a lot of questions on the board.
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Maybe they could make it to where people can't declare. I liked D$'s idea. Start in the spring and a start date around October for part 2.
 
No_Fly_Zone said:
Your point would probably be better taken if you didn't pejoratively refer to COVID-19 as "a borderline cold", which it most definitively is not.

The real danger with opening up schools (at least at the HS level) is less about the kids who attend (99.9% of whom will be fine) and more who those kids may transmit the virus to (including teachers and staff who work there, and their families at home). You just can't 100% open the schools up to full capacity without an increase in transmission. Otherwise, I'm not sure how you convince teachers and staff to show up and teach in tight classrooms with 30+ kids, in HS's with over 3K kids roaming the halls.

But your points about the negative effects of having teenagers out of school is well taken. And I do agree schools should be open, in some capacity - whether that means split shifts, opening up additional classroom space, staggering the school day, implementing a hybrid (distance learning + live instruction) model, or whatever other creative solutions people in education are looking into.

And once those schools are open, you might as well have these kids playing sports. It's an important outlet for a lot of kids. ****, for some kids, the only reason they even go to school and make decent grades is for fear of getting kicked off whatever team they love. Get the infrared thermometers, check temperatures before every practice, pull and quarantine anyone displaying symptoms, implement social distancing during individual drills and film sessions, minimize fans in the stands (if any), and have their parents sign a waiver (or pull the kid from the sport if they want), and go with god. And anyone who thinks the risk is too great and wants to opt out, you obviously let them.
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Great cogent statement. It isn't just about the kids contracting the virus as much as it is about the kids becoming transmitters of the virus. But shutting down sports if schools are open makes no sense as sports don't increase the likelihood of contraction any more than simply attending. school.
 
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SpikeUM said:
Does anyone know if football is a net money producer for high schools?
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As long as you are decent and draw crowds, it makes money at the school level. When you factor in coaches salaries, which I believe are paid for by the county, then no it doesn’t.
 
SpikeUM said:
Does anyone know if football is a net money producer for high schools?
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If we're talking Florida specific, I found this article talking about it in terms of NE Fla. Seems to suggest at the school level they turn a slight profit, but at the district level (because of coaching stipends, transportation costs, and security) it's a loss.
 
Allabouttheu95 said:
Want to know what’s worse than a bunch of young kids getting a borderline cold? Having kids on the street for 6 months instead of at practice, in weight room, etc.
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Riiiight. Because the ONLY people inside of school buildings are "young kids"...

Hmm, I wonder what will happen when hundreds of asymptomatic Covid-carrier "young kids" who are in "no danger of dying" go to school and infect dozens of older-aged teachers, administrators, and coaches...

What are we going to do when all of the teachers and coaches are out sick due to Covid?

Yeah, let's just send all the "young kids" back to school in the middle of a pandemic because the "young kids" don't get it as bad as the adults do...
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Riiiight. Because the ONLY people inside of school buildings are "young kids"...

Hmm, I wonder what will happen when hundreds of asymptomatic Covid-carrier "young kids" who are in "no danger of dying" go to school and infect dozens of older-aged teachers, administrators, and coaches...

What are we going to do when all of the teachers and coaches are out sick due to Covid?

Yeah, let's just send all the "young kids" back to school in the middle of a pandemic because the "young kids" don't get it as bad as the adults do...
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Life must go on.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Riiiight. Because the ONLY people inside of school buildings are "young kids"...

Hmm, I wonder what will happen when hundreds of asymptomatic Covid-carrier "young kids" who are in "no danger of dying" go to school and infect dozens of older-aged teachers, administrators, and coaches...

What are we going to do when all of the teachers and coaches are out sick due to Covid?

Yeah, let's just send all the "young kids" back to school in the middle of a pandemic because the "young kids" don't get it as bad as the adults do...
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A Dutch study and an Australian study hasn’t produced any results that prove children are vectors for corona. In the cases that were found, teachers gave them to students but none from student to student, or student to teacher. I know it’s only two studies but the results are more than promising.
 
NC_Canes_11 said:
A Dutch study and an Australian study hasn’t produced any results that prove children are vectors for corona. In the cases that were found, teachers gave them to students but none from student to student, or student to teacher. I know it’s only two studies but the results are more than promising.
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AAP is similarly indicating that younger kids, Pre-K and Elementary school ages, seem very unlikely to transmit covid-19 to adults. Limited data, but that's promising. Different story with HS age kids, but considering their age you'd think it would generally be easier to implement additional safety precautions (like masks, physical distancing, following one-way routes of travel within schools/building, hybrid learning, etc...). Older kids should be able to follow stricter/more complicated policies/procedures.

Story changes some with special needs kids on an IEP and kids with physical disabilities. Though at least those populations are generally in smaller class sizes. Regardless, with an entire summer to figure it out, it would be pretty sad if we couldn't come up with meaningful ways to minimize risk while maximizing education (and, of course, respecting the choices of parents who believe the risk outweighs the reward for their children).
 
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The American Academy of Pediatrics may change their recommendations, but we know where they all stand now. Even though I know their leadership is progressive, these recommendations carry weight and are apolitical.
 
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Ash Joshi said:
Great cogent statement. It isn't just about the kids contracting the virus as much as it is about the kids becoming transmitters of the virus. But shutting down sports if schools are open makes no sense as sports don't increase the likelihood of contraction any more than simply attending. school.
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same as colleges, if you are deeming it safe for your students to be in a classroom and on campus then open it up for sports. if not, sorry no sports
 
No_Fly_Zone said:
AAP is similarly indicating that younger kids, Pre-K and Elementary school ages, seem very unlikely to transmit covid-19 to adults. Limited data, but that's promising. Different story with HS age kids, but considering their age you'd think it would generally be easier to implement additional safety precautions (like masks, physical distancing, following one-way routes of travel within schools/building, hybrid learning, etc...). Older kids should be able to follow stricter/more complicated policies/procedures.

Story changes some with special needs kids on an IEP and kids with physical disabilities. Though at least those populations are generally in smaller class sizes. Regardless, with an entire summer to figure it out, it would be pretty sad if we couldn't come up with meaningful ways to minimize risk while maximizing education (and, of course, respecting the choices of parents who believe the risk outweighs the reward for their children).
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Exactly. My point is that there should be a way to get all kids K-12 in school. But when it’s comes to the government nothing is easy.
 
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