EVERY **** YEAR WITHOUT FAIL

I take some comfort in knowing the kids that spurn us are batting around .200.

A few flopped but there were a good amount of difference makers: Cooper, Bridgewater, Ridley, Michel, Cook, Peterson, etc.

That's my point, too. Let's just look at 2013. We finished 2013 9-3 and severely under performed based on the talent we already had. If we hit on the following 11 guys over the course of 4 previous years (less than 3 players per year), we are probably pushing FSU for the spot in the natty

A junior Teddy Bridgewater (1) would have a junior (2) Devonta Freeman, sophomore Duke Johnson and a freshman Alex Collins (3) in the backfield. Our starting OL is Flowers, McDermott, Linder, Feliciano and Seantreal - all are pros - with Denver Kirkland (4) as the rotational guy. Out wide we have junior Sammy Watkins (5), sophomore Amari Cooper (6) to go with junior Phillip Dorsett, senior Allen Hurns, junior Rashawn Scott and our new freshman stud Stacy Coley. Clive Walford is our tight end and we are a dominant offense.

Defensively we have Tracy Howard to go with our All American (7) Lamarcus Joyner. Our freshman studs Artie Burns, Corn Elder and (9) Mackensie Alexander get to learn from talented upperclassmen. (8) Gerrod Holliman wins the Thorpe award for the Canes instead of Louisville while he pairs with rising sophomore stud Deon Bush. Our new linebacker prospect (10) Skai Moore is paired with Denzel Perryman to make a great 1/2 combo to go with another freshman stud Jermaine Grace and a steady Raphael Kirby.


See how different that looks? That's why I get can't help but think of the players we lose. What does Dalvin Cook mean to this team if we have him? 2 wins per season? The people we miss on don't always pan out. But the guys we do miss on like these 11 are the difference between competing for a ship and losing 30-something to 9 in an Orlando bowl.

Holy ****... that's despressing

It's not hard to figure out why some of us get like this. That's a national championship roster. That's missing on 3 kids per year. That makes the difference.
 

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I take some comfort in knowing the kids that spurn us are batting around .200.

A few flopped but there were a good amount of difference makers: Cooper, Bridgewater, Ridley, Michel, Cook, Peterson, etc.

That's my point, too. Let's just look at 2013. We finished 2013 9-3 and severely under performed based on the talent we already had. If we hit on the following 11 guys over the course of 4 previous years (less than 3 players per year), we are probably pushing FSU for the spot in the natty

A junior Teddy Bridgewater (1) would have a junior (2) Devonta Freeman, sophomore Duke Johnson and a freshman Alex Collins (3) in the backfield. Our starting OL is Flowers, McDermott, Linder, Feliciano and Seantreal - all are pros - with Denver Kirkland (4) as the rotational guy. Out wide we have junior Sammy Watkins (5), sophomore Amari Cooper (6) to go with junior Phillip Dorsett, senior Allen Hurns, junior Rashawn Scott and our new freshman stud Stacy Coley. Clive Walford is our tight end and we are a dominant offense.

Defensively we have Tracy Howard to go with our All American (7) Lamarcus Joyner. Our freshman studs Artie Burns, Corn Elder and (9) Mackensie Alexander get to learn from talented upperclassmen. (8) Gerrod Holliman wins the Thorpe award for the Canes instead of Louisville while he pairs with rising sophomore stud Deon Bush. Our new linebacker prospect (10) Skai Moore is paired with Denzel Perryman to make a great 1/2 combo to go with another freshman stud Jermaine Grace and a steady Raphael Kirby.


See how different that looks? That's why I get can't help but think of the players we lose. What does Dalvin Cook mean to this team if we have him? 2 wins per season? The people we miss on don't always pan out. But the guys we do miss on like these 11 are the difference between competing for a ship and losing 30-something to 9 in an Orlando bowl.

Exactly................if only Miami could keep the best players at home.
 
I take some comfort in knowing the kids that spurn us are batting around .200.

A few flopped but there were a good amount of difference makers: Cooper, Bridgewater, Ridley, Michel, Cook, Peterson, etc.

That's my point, too. Let's just look at 2013. We finished 2013 9-3 and severely under performed based on the talent we already had. If we hit on the following 11 guys over the course of 4 previous years (less than 3 players per year), we are probably pushing FSU for the spot in the natty

A junior Teddy Bridgewater (1) would have a junior (2) Devonta Freeman, sophomore Duke Johnson and a freshman Alex Collins (3) in the backfield. Our starting OL is Flowers, McDermott, Linder, Feliciano and Seantreal - all are pros - with Denver Kirkland (4) as the rotational guy. Out wide we have junior Sammy Watkins (5), sophomore Amari Cooper (6) to go with junior Phillip Dorsett, senior Allen Hurns, junior Rashawn Scott and our new freshman stud Stacy Coley. Clive Walford is our tight end and we are a dominant offense.

Defensively we have Tracy Howard to go with our All American (7) Lamarcus Joyner. Our freshman studs Artie Burns, Corn Elder and (8) Mackensie Alexander get to learn from talented upperclassmen. (9) Gerrod Holliman wins the Thorpe award for the Canes instead of Louisville while he pairs with rising sophomore stud Deon Bush. Our new linebacker prospect (10) Skai Moore is paired with Denzel Perryman to make a great 1/2 combo to go with another freshman stud Jermaine Grace and a steady Raphael Kirby. Meanwhile, (11) Will Likely starts his journey to being a special teams phenom.


See how different that looks? That's why I get can't help but think of the players we lose. What does Dalvin Cook mean to this team if we have him? 2 wins per season? The people we miss on don't always pan out. But the guys we do miss on like these 11 are the difference between competing for a ship and losing 30-something to 9 in an Orlando bowl.

I like your dream team, but that's if everyone had stayed.
We'll see in 2 weeks.
If we get 1 of the 2 DB's and we close on some of these D lineman, it will make a really good class a special class.
Btw, I do think Richt will pull one or two classes where everyone does come on a loaded So Fla year.
 
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You know what I'm tired of? As in 15 fking years tired of.

Not winning our conference, not playing for a national title, getting our *** whooped at least once or twice a year.
It would be nice to have the players and coaching to not let that happen at least one of these years.

Hence why recruiting matters.

Amen.
 
I take some comfort in knowing the kids that spurn us are batting around .200.

A few flopped but there were a good amount of difference makers: Cooper, Bridgewater, Ridley, Michel, Cook, Peterson, etc.

That's my point, too. Let's just look at 2013. We finished 2013 9-3 and severely under performed based on the talent we already had. If we hit on the following 11 guys over the course of 4 previous years (less than 3 players per year), we are probably pushing FSU for the spot in the natty

A junior Teddy Bridgewater (1) would have a junior (2) Devonta Freeman, sophomore Duke Johnson and a freshman Alex Collins (3) in the backfield. Our starting OL is Flowers, McDermott, Linder, Feliciano and Seantreal - all are pros - with Denver Kirkland (4) as the rotational guy. Out wide we have junior Sammy Watkins (5), sophomore Amari Cooper (6) to go with junior Phillip Dorsett, senior Allen Hurns, junior Rashawn Scott and our new freshman stud Stacy Coley. Clive Walford is our tight end and we are a dominant offense.

Defensively we have Tracy Howard to go with our All American (7) Lamarcus Joyner. Our freshman studs Artie Burns, Corn Elder and (9) Mackensie Alexander get to learn from talented upperclassmen. (8) Gerrod Holliman wins the Thorpe award for the Canes instead of Louisville while he pairs with rising sophomore stud Deon Bush. Our new linebacker prospect (10) Skai Moore is paired with Denzel Perryman to make a great 1/2 combo to go with another freshman stud Jermaine Grace and a steady Raphael Kirby.


See how different that looks? That's why I get can't help but think of the players we lose. What does Dalvin Cook mean to this team if we have him? 2 wins per season? The people we miss on don't always pan out. But the guys we do miss on like these 11 are the difference between competing for a ship and losing 30-something to 9 in an Orlando bowl.

Holy ****... that's despressing

RUINED MY DAY!
 
Recruiting matters.

The difference between Miami and Alabama right now is the number of 4/5 stars on each respective roster.

People are right to set the bar high... we want to win national titles and to do that we gotta get our share of star recruits.

If Miami isn't going to leave South Florida to get recruits, then we need to land the best of the best locally. Or suffer as a result.

Honestly Alabama are a freak of nature.

I try not to watch them much, but I'm involved in a community Mock Draft elsewhere so I've been looking at prospects. Any game against Alabama is a good barometer, obviously, but good lord are they cartoonish. Everyone (especially on that defence) is big, fast, jacked and aggressive as ****.
 
The Alabama's and the OSU's and the Clemson's win because of those trenches. That's where you win NC's. We must have dominating OL's and DL's...and a good QB.
 
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Whatever happened to that 5* corner that we missed out on that went to Tennessee? Didn't he turn out to be a bust or didn't he get in trouble?
 
Recruiting matters.

The difference between Miami and Alabama right now is the number of 4/5 stars on each respective roster.

People are right to set the bar high... we want to win national titles and to do that we gotta get our share of star recruits.

If Miami isn't going to leave South Florida to get recruits, then we need to land the best of the best locally. Or suffer as a result.

Honestly Alabama are a freak of nature.

I try not to watch them much, but I'm involved in a community Mock Draft elsewhere so I've been looking at prospects. Any game against Alabama is a good barometer, obviously, but good lord are they cartoonish. Everyone (especially on that defence) is big, fast, jacked and aggressive as ****.

And on HGH. Their kids seems to breakdown in a hurry in the NFL where they routinely drug test.
 
Missing out on Campbell and Surtain is really bad. Just think about what our WR corps would look like next year without Richards. We would have some nice players but nobody who is a clear #1 that we can rely on on any given down. That is basically our CB corps if we don’t get Campbell or Surtain although maybe Jackson takes another leap.
 
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I take some comfort in knowing the kids that spurn us are batting around .200.

A few flopped but there were a good amount of difference makers: Cooper, Bridgewater, Ridley, Michel, Cook, Peterson, etc.

That's my point, too. Let's just look at 2013. We finished 2013 9-3 and severely under performed based on the talent we already had. If we hit on the following 11 guys over the course of 4 previous years (less than 3 players per year), we are probably pushing FSU for the spot in the natty

A junior Teddy Bridgewater (1) would have a junior (2) Devonta Freeman, sophomore Duke Johnson and a freshman Alex Collins (3) in the backfield. Our starting OL is Flowers, McDermott, Linder, Feliciano and Seantreal - all are pros - with Denver Kirkland (4) as the rotational guy. Out wide we have junior Sammy Watkins (5), sophomore Amari Cooper (6) to go with junior Phillip Dorsett, senior Allen Hurns, junior Rashawn Scott and our new freshman stud Stacy Coley. Clive Walford is our tight end and we are a dominant offense.

Defensively we have Tracy Howard to go with our All American (7) Lamarcus Joyner. Our freshman studs Artie Burns, Corn Elder and (9) Mackensie Alexander get to learn from talented upperclassmen. (8) Gerrod Holliman wins the Thorpe award for the Canes instead of Louisville while he pairs with rising sophomore stud Deon Bush. Our new linebacker prospect (10) Skai Moore is paired with Denzel Perryman to make a great 1/2 combo to go with another freshman stud Jermaine Grace and a steady Raphael Kirby.


See how different that looks? That's why I get can't help but think of the players we lose. What does Dalvin Cook mean to this team if we have him? 2 wins per season? The people we miss on don't always pan out. But the guys we do miss on like these 11 are the difference between competing for a ship and losing 30-something to 9 in an Orlando bowl.

Holy ****... that's despressing

It's not hard to figure out why some of us get like this. That's a national championship roster. That's missing on 3 kids per year. That makes the difference.

The question becomes, how do you get the kids to realize/buy into building a south Florida elite roster
 
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We have an infatuation with the kids that we miss on.

Last year we had Henderson, year before the WR that went to LSU and sucked, many others I am missing.

This year we have Tyson and PS. Whatever. We get them great we don’t and i don’t give a rats ***.

We should focus on the guys we got bc they are **** studs.

But I guess it is the nature of the beast.

You do realize the recruits we miss on are at positions of needs? How can you guys not comprehend this?
 
Recruiting matters.

The difference between Miami and Alabama right now is the number of 4/5 stars on each respective roster.

People are right to set the bar high... we want to win national titles and to do that we gotta get our share of star recruits.

If Miami isn't going to leave South Florida to get recruits, then we need to land the best of the best locally. Or suffer as a result.

https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings.

Campbell and Surtain wouldn't change that fact. You don't even want to give the staff a chance. You bring up Bama as an example but they are ahead of Bama right now. You don't get a roster full of 4 and 5 stars over night.

But do as you do. Go into every thread and complain and be a negative nancy about who Miami isn't getting.

You seriously missed the point of his post. It went right over your head.
 
I'm not gonna say fire Rumph or anything crazy like others have if Campbell and Surtain don't come here

But the barometer is Clemson. Richt said it himself, we're not at their level yet. How do you close that gap? By landing some of these elite recruits. Eventually, if you want to be Alabama and Clemson, you have to land several high end immediate difference makers in a class. Not just one or two. That's the only way we'll play catch up

Especially when they're in your own backyard. Gotta convince them some how
 
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The logic here is pretty straight forward. Most people that are still clicking around the recruiting page are interested in reading about targets, not signees. I can only speak for myself, but I am very psyched about who we have right now. At the same time, I look around the recruiting site to see what cornerbacks we might pull in because we are thin at the position and this was hyped up as the best db class to ever come out of South FL.
 
This is the first year we have been relevant in some time. Those 5 Star corners are clearly not coming and it is not.because we did not try.

I believe we need to get the best guys possible. But those 5 Star kids want to play in the playoffs and we are a long ways off meaning 2-3 years from now which to a 18 year old is an eternity.

Also Tracy Howard was a 5 Star. Ed Reed was not. Sean Taylor was not. Jon Vilma was not. To be in the playoffs we all know you need to be strong everywhere but most importantly you have to be strong up front. If we had to have one over the other I want 3 strong DT’s over these 5 star corners
 
The real issue is losing top players that Miami wants from the tri-county area at extreme need positions that could come in and start.

It has been a struggle to keep top notch talent at home at CB for a very long time. Henderson would have been highly valuable this year and even more so this upcoming season.

Also, with the extreme need at DT there is no excuse for not getting more DT's onboard. Ford should have never been the only DT taken last year with the knowledge that the 2 starting Juniors this season could leave. Depth issues and not having time to develop recruits before they are forced to start is one of those things that keeps a team from getting over the top.

Bear is one of those glass is always 1/2 full dudes that live in a fantasy world or he is simply satisfied with 10 wins every year and not getting over the top to be an elite program. These things some of us gripe about are very legitimate concerns for those of us who want to be elite again.

Negged for bringing up Henderson and valuable to our team in the same sentence. The kid was not that good. If you watched his picks they were thrown into his chest after he displayed poor coverage on most of the plays. I saw him get picked on in several games as well. Marco Wilson could have been a much better example.

Henderson is ***...
 
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Recruiting matters.

The difference between Miami and Alabama right now is the number of 4/5 stars on each respective roster.

People are right to set the bar high... we want to win national titles and to do that we gotta get our share of star recruits.

If Miami isn't going to leave South Florida to get recruits, then we need to land the best of the best locally. Or suffer as a result.

https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings.

Campbell and Surtain wouldn't change that fact. You don't even want to give the staff a chance. You bring up Bama as an example but they are ahead of Bama right now. You don't get a roster full of 4 and 5 stars over night.

But do as you do. Go into every thread and complain and be a negative nancy about who Miami isn't getting.

67-70% of OSU's and Bama's rosters are 4 and 5 star guys.
67% of our class right now is 4-5 star guys. We could be above 70% in 2 weeks.
2019 is shaping up to be another good one.
Consistent top-5 classes will get us to where we want to be.

You're using old information. The rich have gotten richer.

Alabama's roster is now 85 percent four/five stars.

I haven't checked OSU or Clemson yet. But each of those teams is well over 75 percent.

65 percent is not championship level recruiting, bottom line. We're close but we need a strong close.
 
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