EVERY **** YEAR WITHOUT FAIL

[bear]

We have an infatuation with the kids that we miss on.

Last year we had Henderson, year before the WR that went to LSU and sucked, many others I am missing.

This year we have Tyson and PS. Whatever. We get them great we don’t and i don’t give a rats ***.

We should focus on the guys we got bc they are **** studs.

But I guess it is the nature of the beast.

 

[PharmCane305]

I honestly forget the names of prior misses a lot of times. After signing day focus on the next class.

CFB Recruiting is addicting.

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[GeraltOfCaneia]

What WR that went to LSU?

 

[Meat]

Recruiting matters.

The difference between Miami and Alabama right now is the number of 4/5 stars on each respective roster.

People are right to set the bar high... we want to win national titles and to do that we gotta get our share of star recruits.

If Miami isn't going to leave South Florida to get recruits, then we need to land the best of the best locally. Or suffer as a result.

 

[TriStarCane]

We have an infatuation with the kids that we miss on.

Last year we had Henderson, year before the WR that went to LSU and sucked, many others I am missing.

This year we have Tyson and PS. Whatever. We get them great we don’t and i don’t give a rats ***.

We should focus on the guys we got bc they are **** studs.

But I guess it is the nature of the beast.

Admittedly I'm guilty of this. I actually thought about this the other day during a conversation with another Canes fan. The reason for me is simple: look at the kids we have lost recently. HUGE difference makers. The difference between mediocrity and championships comes down to closing on the Dalvin Cooks and Amari Coopers of the world. It's not letting Alex Collins go to Arkansas or Jerry Jeudy to Alabama. It's finding a way to keep Teddy Bridgewater home. We lose guys that end up being impact players. We haven't had a ton of those guys lately. They are the ones that make plays in Charlotte vs. Clemson to win championships. The good news is that when people leave, they mostly flame out. But losing those superstar players hurts.

 

[ThomasM]

I take some comfort in knowing the kids that spurn us are batting around .200.

 

[deleted1998]

Recruiting matters.

The difference between Miami and Alabama right now is the number of 4/5 stars on each respective roster.

People are right to set the bar high... we want to win national titles and to do that we gotta get our share of star recruits.

If Miami isn't going to leave South Florida to get recruits, then we need to land the best of the best locally. Or suffer as a result.

https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings.

Campbell and Surtain wouldn't change that fact. You don't even want to give the staff a chance. You bring up Bama as an example but they are ahead of Bama right now. You don't get a roster full of 4 and 5 stars over night.

But do as you do. Go into every thread and complain and be a negative nancy about who Miami isn't getting.

 

[WaterburyCane]

I take some comfort in knowing the kids that spurn us are batting around .200.

Exactly. Recruiting matters..in fact, Id say its more about the Jimmy and the Joe's than the X's and O's (of course the elite programs have both). But when it comes to those 2 or 3 every year thats an all out recruiting war where we lost, more often than not their on the field career does not live up to the recruiting legend we as fans have made them into....ESPECIALLY the ones that play games and do it in an unsavory manor (regardless of outcome I can respect how TC and PS2 have handled their recruitment).

When you look back..there are more Henderson's, Byrd's, Matthew Thomas's, Qweef Bryant's in the books that didnt pan out for the signing day winner. Alex Collins comes to mind as one that, after watching how his recruitment was handled I thought would be a bust and I was wrong. My personal opinion is that we are not going to look back 4 years from now and lose any sleep over losing Jobe. Ive seen enough of his character and film now to say Im not as bummed as when he flipped.

 

[ThomasM]

I take some comfort in knowing the kids that spurn us are batting around .200.

Exactly. Recruiting matters..in fact, Id say its more about the Jimmy and the Joe's than the X's and O's (of course the elite programs have both). But when it comes to those 2 or 3 every year thats an all out recruiting war where we lost, more often than not their on the field career does not live up to the recruiting legend we as fans have made them into....ESPECIALLY the ones that play games and do it in an unsavory manor (regardless of outcome I can respect how TC and PS2 have handled their recruitment).

When you look back..there are more Henderson's, Byrd's, Matthew Thomas's, Qweef Bryant's in the books that didnt pan out for the signing day winner. Alex Collins comes to mind as one that, after watching how his recruitment was handled I thought would be a bust and I was wrong. My personal opinion is that we are not going to look back 4 years from now and lose any sleep over losing Jobe. Ive seen enough of his character and film now to say Im not as bummed as when he flipped.

Yep. Jobe got picked on in that all star game, and he will continue to get picked on. The days of dominating 15 year olds as a 19 year old are over.

 

[Insanecane]

You know what I'm tired of? As in 15 fking years tired of.

Not winning our conference, not playing for a national title, getting our *** whooped at least once or twice a year.
It would be nice to have the players and coaching to not let that happen at least one of these years.

Hence why recruiting matters.

 

[Canes_]

I take some comfort in knowing the kids that spurn us are batting around .200.

A few flopped but there were a good amount of difference makers: Cooper, Bridgewater, Ridley, Michel, Cook, Peterson, etc.

 

[Canes_]

We have an infatuation with the kids that we miss on.

Last year we had Henderson, year before the WR that went to LSU and sucked, many others I am missing.

This year we have Tyson and PS. Whatever. We get them great we don’t and i don’t give a rats ***.

We should focus on the guys we got bc they are **** studs.

But I guess it is the nature of the beast.

Losing out on both local 5 star day one impact CB's when you have just two serviceable corners on the roster isn't whatever. That's a major recruiting failure.

That defense that got lit up by Pitt's true freshman QB and couldn't cover Wisconsin's unheralded freshmen WR's needs major infusion of CB talent.

 

[5NC4]

The real issue is losing top players that Miami wants from the tri-county area at extreme need positions that could come in and start.

It has been a struggle to keep top notch talent at home at CB for a very long time. Henderson would have been highly valuable this year and even more so this upcoming season.

Also, with the extreme need at DT there is no excuse for not getting more DT's onboard. Ford should have never been the only DT taken last year with the knowledge that the 2 starting Juniors this season could leave. Depth issues and not having time to develop recruits before they are forced to start is one of those things that keeps a team from getting over the top.

Bear is one of those glass is always 1/2 full dudes that live in a fantasy world or he is simply satisfied with 10 wins every year and not getting over the top to be an elite program. These things some of us gripe about are very legitimate concerns for those of us who want to be elite again.

 

[CanesDominate]

We have an infatuation with the kids that we miss on.

Last year we had Henderson, year before the WR that went to LSU and sucked, many others I am missing.

This year we have Tyson and PS. Whatever. We get them great we don’t and i don’t give a rats ***.

We should focus on the guys we got bc they are **** studs.

But I guess it is the nature of the beast.

Losing out on both local 5 star day one impact CB's when you have just two serviceable corners on the roster isn't whatever. That's a major recruiting failure.

That defense that got lit up by Pitt's true freshman QB and couldn't cover Wisconsin's unheralded freshmen WR's needs major infusion of CB talent.

It's not a failure if they don't want to come here. It is a recruit's right to say no. Failure is when UM doesn't prioritize targets and lose them. Clearly that's not the case with PS2 and Campbell.

 

[01Canes]

Campbell and Surtain are two of the most important recruits this program has pursued in recent memory, especially in the wake of the Malek Young news. When we hired their former coach from the high school ranks rather than someone with an established track record of CB recruiting at this level two years ago, the consensus reaction was that securing Campbell and/or Surtain down the line was a non-negotiable prerequisite for the move to pay off.

They are two of the most talented players to come out of South Florida in recent memory regardless of position. Rumph has strong, longstanding relationships with both players and their families. It's a position of dire need with only 3 returning CBs on the roster. If we don't land them, they're likely heading to Georgia and Bama, respectively -- allowing those programs to further widen the talent gap by plucking the very best from our backyard.

Our pass defense was abysmal for the last 1/3rd of the season. Benkert and Bryant went a combined 34 of their first 34 against our secondary. We made Alex Hornibrook look like Steve Young. Wisconsin's pedestrian WR corps dominated our DBs at the catch point all game long in the Orange Bowl. Fans are entirely justified in emphasizing Campbell and Surtain's importance to this program.

I'd question the sanity and intelligence of anyone who would downplay how badly we need to keep at least one of them home given the circumstances.

 

[1mg of Epi]

I take some comfort in knowing the kids that spurn us are batting around .200.

Exactly. Recruiting matters..in fact, Id say its more about the Jimmy and the Joe's than the X's and O's (of course the elite programs have both). But when it comes to those 2 or 3 every year thats an all out recruiting war where we lost, more often than not their on the field career does not live up to the recruiting legend we as fans have made them into....ESPECIALLY the ones that play games and do it in an unsavory manor (regardless of outcome I can respect how TC and PS2 have handled their recruitment).

When you look back..there are more Henderson's, Byrd's, Matthew Thomas's, Qweef Bryant's in the books that didnt pan out for the signing day winner. Alex Collins comes to mind as one that, after watching how his recruitment was handled I thought would be a bust and I was wrong. My personal opinion is that we are not going to look back 4 years from now and lose any sleep over losing Jobe. Ive seen enough of his character and film now to say Im not as bummed as when he flipped.

Al Golden is solid evidence, if not proof, that Xs and Os matter a great deal.

 

[NJshoreCane]

Recruiting matters.

The difference between Miami and Alabama right now is the number of 4/5 stars on each respective roster.

People are right to set the bar high... we want to win national titles and to do that we gotta get our share of star recruits.

If Miami isn't going to leave South Florida to get recruits, then we need to land the best of the best locally. Or suffer as a result.

https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings.

Campbell and Surtain wouldn't change that fact. You don't even want to give the staff a chance. You bring up Bama as an example but they are ahead of Bama right now. You don't get a roster full of 4 and 5 stars over night.

But do as you do. Go into every thread and complain and be a negative nancy about who Miami isn't getting.

67-70% of OSU's and Bama's rosters are 4 and 5 star guys.
67% of our class right now is 4-5 star guys. We could be above 70% in 2 weeks.
2019 is shaping up to be another good one.
Consistent top-5 classes will get us to where we want to be.

 

[TriStarCane]

I take some comfort in knowing the kids that spurn us are batting around .200.

A few flopped but there were a good amount of difference makers: Cooper, Bridgewater, Ridley, Michel, Cook, Peterson, etc.

That's my point, too. Let's just look at 2013. We finished 2013 9-3 and severely under performed based on the talent we already had. If we hit on the following 11 guys over the course of 4 previous years (less than 3 players per year), we are probably pushing FSU for the spot in the natty

A junior Teddy Bridgewater (1) would have a junior (2) Devonta Freeman, sophomore Duke Johnson and a freshman Alex Collins (3) in the backfield. Our starting OL is Flowers, McDermott, Linder, Feliciano and Seantreal - all are pros - with Denver Kirkland (4) as the rotational guy. Out wide we have junior Sammy Watkins (5), sophomore Amari Cooper (6) to go with junior Phillip Dorsett, senior Allen Hurns, junior Rashawn Scott and our new freshman stud Stacy Coley. Clive Walford is our tight end and we are a dominant offense.

Defensively we have Tracy Howard to go with our All American (7) Lamarcus Joyner. Our freshman studs Artie Burns, Corn Elder and (8) Mackensie Alexander get to learn from talented upperclassmen. (9) Gerrod Holliman wins the Thorpe award for the Canes instead of Louisville while he pairs with rising sophomore stud Deon Bush. Our new linebacker prospect (10) Skai Moore is paired with Denzel Perryman to make a great 1/2 combo to go with another freshman stud Jermaine Grace and a steady Raphael Kirby. Meanwhile, (11) Will Likely starts his journey to being a special teams phenom.


See how different that looks? That's why I get can't help but think of the players we lose. What does Dalvin Cook mean to this team if we have him? 2 wins per season? The people we miss on don't always pan out. But the guys we do miss on like these 11 are the difference between competing for a ship and losing 30-something to 9 in an Orlando bowl.

 

[deleted1998]

Recruiting matters.

The difference between Miami and Alabama right now is the number of 4/5 stars on each respective roster.

People are right to set the bar high... we want to win national titles and to do that we gotta get our share of star recruits.

If Miami isn't going to leave South Florida to get recruits, then we need to land the best of the best locally. Or suffer as a result.

https://247sports.com/Season/2018-Football/CompositeTeamRankings.

Campbell and Surtain wouldn't change that fact. You don't even want to give the staff a chance. You bring up Bama as an example but they are ahead of Bama right now. You don't get a roster full of 4 and 5 stars over night.

But do as you do. Go into every thread and complain and be a negative nancy about who Miami isn't getting.

67-70% of OSU's and Bama's rosters are 4 and 5 star guys.
67% of our class right now is 4-5 star guys. We could be above 70% in 2 weeks.
2019 is shaping up to be another good one.
Consistent top-5 classes will get us to where we want to be.

Exactly. We are projecting that way and people will continue to just look for anything to complain about. And Meat thinks he is a genius by coming into every thread telling everyone that recruiting matters...duh idiot, of course it matters.

 

[Zanecane]

I take some comfort in knowing the kids that spurn us are batting around .200.

A few flopped but there were a good amount of difference makers: Cooper, Bridgewater, Ridley, Michel, Cook, Peterson, etc.

That's my point, too. Let's just look at 2013. We finished 2013 9-3 and severely under performed based on the talent we already had. If we hit on the following 11 guys over the course of 4 previous years (less than 3 players per year), we are probably pushing FSU for the spot in the natty

A junior Teddy Bridgewater (1) would have a junior (2) Devonta Freeman, sophomore Duke Johnson and a freshman Alex Collins (3) in the backfield. Our starting OL is Flowers, McDermott, Linder, Feliciano and Seantreal - all are pros - with Denver Kirkland (4) as the rotational guy. Out wide we have junior Sammy Watkins (5), sophomore Amari Cooper (6) to go with junior Phillip Dorsett, senior Allen Hurns, junior Rashawn Scott and our new freshman stud Stacy Coley. Clive Walford is our tight end and we are a dominant offense.

Defensively we have Tracy Howard to go with our All American (7) Lamarcus Joyner. Our freshman studs Artie Burns, Corn Elder and (9) Mackensie Alexander get to learn from talented upperclassmen. (8) Gerrod Holliman wins the Thorpe award for the Canes instead of Louisville while he pairs with rising sophomore stud Deon Bush. Our new linebacker prospect (10) Skai Moore is paired with Denzel Perryman to make a great 1/2 combo to go with another freshman stud Jermaine Grace and a steady Raphael Kirby.


See how different that looks? That's why I get can't help but think of the players we lose. What does Dalvin Cook mean to this team if we have him? 2 wins per season? The people we miss on don't always pan out. But the guys we do miss on like these 11 are the difference between competing for a ship and losing 30-something to 9 in an Orlando bowl.

Holy ****... that's despressing