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EVEN if Winston is innocent, FSU is GUILTY

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They broke Federal Law. Title IX is a HUGE deal. This will not end well for the university. To big a deal to go unnoticed by lawmakers. ( I hope )
This girl is going to sue the **** out of fsu in federal court.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/fsu-investigation-in-jameis-winston-case-raises-more-questions/2153891

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However, Title IX, a federal law, mandates that immediately after a school is informed of such an accusation it must conduct a "prompt, thorough, and impartial" investigation that should take about 60 days to complete, according to the U.S. Department of Education.
Given that the inquiry remains ongoing, it's unclear how Florida State could have met those standards: The university's investigation has either lasted well more than two months, or school officials did not begin the inquiry when the alleged assault was reported to campus police.
"Conduct may constitute unlawful sexual harassment under Title IX even if the police do not have sufficient evidence of a criminal violation," the department said in 2011. "In addition, a criminal investigation into allegations of sexual violence does not relieve the school of its duty under Title IX to resolve complaints promptly and equitably."
 
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Are they still on probation for the cheating scandal?

Would love to see them get in some trouble, but I doubt it happens.
 
Police and university coverups make great headlines. I hope they lose some funding. I can't imagine someone not using this to get reelected or at least get publicity to go after people in high positions. The victim can sue Winston civilly regardless of the DA's findings. She has 7 years to do this. She will wait until he has his NFL contract. Her attorney will also, most likely, file federal suite against fsu asap. She will use Title IX as the foundation for her money grab.
 
Incidents like this and the subsequent cover-ups quite often lead to many other activities and additional cover-ups being exposed during the course of investigation. Seems to me based on Boarcanes's post on title IX and the girl's certain civil suit against FSU, Winston, TPD and others along with their apparent "lack of an impartial investigation", this could escalate. Sounds like a certain lack of institutional control and participation in a cover up, ouch could be costly in many ways.

Like my former mother in law used to say, when you look up a ******, you are always going to find ****.
 
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I have a feeling if any civil suit comes out it will be Winston going after the accuser and her Aunt. This looks like the biggest " Cleat chaser gone bad". Episode I have seen. Jerry Springer like.
 
derek said:
I have a feeling if any civil suit comes out it will be Winston going after the accuser and her Aunt. This looks like the biggest " Cleat chaser gone bad". Episode I have seen. Jerry Springer like.
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Seems just the opposite to me, but I'm waiting for the details before passing final judgment.
 
I guess time will tell, just seems very peculiar that if this was truly a seal assault, why she did nothing about it and cooperated with the police for interviews, etc, until after Winton made it big. Back in Dec 2012 and up to Feb 2013, he was not the big name with a future number 1 pick in the draft in a few years. $$$$$$
 
It seems deliberate and willful misconduct by TPD/FSU. The rape was reported by the victim immediatly and a medical examination (rape kit) conducted. TPD/FSU stalled the investigation and ignored the victim's rights.


Shameful and disgusting the conduct by TPD/FSU.
 
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derek said:
I have a feeling if any civil suit comes out it will be Winston going after the accuser and her Aunt. This looks like the biggest " Cleat chaser gone bad". Episode I have seen. Jerry Springer like.
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Neg this dude back to warchant.
 
derek said:
I guess time will tell, just seems very peculiar that if this was truly a seal assault, why she did nothing about it and cooperated with the police for interviews, etc, until after Winton made it big. Back in Dec 2012 and up to Feb 2013, he was not the big name with a future number 1 pick in the draft in a few years. $$$$$$
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Right she did nothing .....she didn't report it to PD and she didn't go to hospital for rape kit.....right keep thinking that . Keep calling her a cleat chaser and trying to flip the story, cause well you've had 11 months to do so

Sorry little FSU mole but big troubles headed toward Tally
 
derek said:
I guess time will tell, just seems very peculiar that if this was truly a seal assault, why she did nothing about it and cooperated with the police for interviews, etc, until after Winton made it big. Back in Dec 2012 and up to Feb 2013, he was not the big name with a future number 1 pick in the draft in a few years. $$$$$$
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She reported early enough to get blood tests on Blood for drugs (before he'd played a snap). That means immediately. That means she had a rape kit. That is extremely invasive. She didn't "wait" to cooperate. She reported immediately. TPD intimidated her and did almost no investigation. What did her cooperation have to do with TPD interviewing witnesses shed already informed them of? Was she supposed to serve a subpoena on the roommate herself? Most bars have cameras and the allegation is she was drugged at a bar. Did TPD retrieve video? Did they even ask the bar to hold the video? Pretty important to see who was w victim at bar. At very least would add to more witnesses.

Winston needs to be proven guilty BRD for a conviction. I'm not saying they're there yet. But this was absolutely a cover up by TPD.
 
MIA42178 said:
derek said:
I guess time will tell, just seems very peculiar that if this was truly a seal assault, why she did nothing about it and cooperated with the police for interviews, etc, until after Winton made it big. Back in Dec 2012 and up to Feb 2013, he was not the big name with a future number 1 pick in the draft in a few years. $$$$$$
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She reported early enough to get blood tests on Blood for drugs (before he'd played a snap). That means immediately. That means she had a rape kit. That is extremely invasive. She didn't "wait" to cooperate. She reported immediately. TPD intimidated her and did almost no investigation. What did her cooperation have to do with TPD interviewing witnesses shed already informed them of? Was she supposed to serve a subpoena on the roommate herself? Most bars have cameras and the allegation is she was drugged at a bar. Did TPD retrieve video? Did they even ask the bar to hold the video? Pretty important to see who was w victim at bar. At very least would add to more witnesses.

Winston needs to be proven guilty BRD for a conviction. I'm not saying they're there yet. But this was absolutely a cover up by TPD.
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Totally agree. It seems these TPD cops have a habit of filing false police report. The rape victim is not the only one claiming corrupt TPD

http://tallahasseeo.com/2013/11/20/...-by-accusers-attorney-against-jameis-winston/
 
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We need to let the Noles deal with their own issues. Personally, I hope Winston is cleared and FSU is cleared. Why? Because ultimately it's in our best interest. FSU is our rival and in our conference. We want our conference to be strong and when we start beating them again I want it to matter. If you must wish the wheels to come off of the cart of a school pick an SEC school especially Florida not our best rival.
 
EVEN if Winston is innocent, Florida State University & the Tallahassee Police Department are GUILTY. If anything, it will make every university and local PD do the right thing by the community and students. I have always SLAMMED the UFPD for the way they attack the gator football team. WOW are they covering their own asses. (and correct in hindsight) I would feel MUCH more conferrable sending a kid to UF now, than fsu. This is truly a sad commentary on the culture in Tallahassee and on the Florida State campus. It's great to be a fan of the program, but this lack of action is beyond reprehensible. I'm disgusted by the actions of all those paid and trusted, to serve and protect.
 
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I wanna beat Winston on the field...not through some questionable BS like this. All i'm reading is our fans want him out the way so we can win. BOGUS BOGUS BOGUS. This mediocrity is finally reaching the fanbase, I can't believe this. You guys keep supporting this broken program in this manner and we will always lose 2 or 3 games a year.
 
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theibisrules said:
I wanna beat Winston on the field...not through some questionable BS like this. All i'm reading is our fans want him out the way so we can win. BOGUS BOGUS BOGUS. This mediocrity is finally reaching the fanbase, I can't believe this. You guys keep supporting this broken program in this manner and we will always lose 2 or 3 games a year.
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I'll say it again…

It's great to be a fan of ANY program, but this lack of action is beyond reprehensible. I'm disgusted by the actions of all those paid and trusted, to serve and protect.
 
This story is truly miraculous for our Canes. You can bet that there will be some SEC money being poured into the NCAA to have a further look into this and other things that have gone on there. FSU has proven themselves a legit challenger for the National title appears primed to stay there, plus they are extremely competitive in Fertile SEC recruiting grounds.

In truth, any football team will have dirt if somebody who knows or cares how to dig is lookin.
 
theibisrules said:
I wanna beat Winston on the field...not through some questionable BS like this. All i'm reading is our fans want him out the way so we can win. BOGUS BOGUS BOGUS. This mediocrity is finally reaching the fanbase, I can't believe this. You guys keep supporting this broken program in this manner and we will always lose 2 or 3 games a year.
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Wrong. It's not about beating an FSU team without their best players. If this happened at Fresno State and the university failed to comply with federal law, do you think our fans reaction will be different? I for one feel for the victims in these cases. The girl reported "rape" at the time the sexual encounter happened, not days or months after she felt guilty or ashamed of doing something she shouldn't have done. Whether she is truthful or not, the law should have been followed.
 
Case in time is similar to Cam 3 years ago. Both Cam and JW go 7-0, 8-0 then the skeletons come out of the closet.
 
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