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Who said Williams Is only a game manager? Because he isn’t 5 star?If it's a bird in hand situation but all parties know we will still keep hunting, I certainly love that scenario. Kid can stand on his own in this class. But I agree the 2 5 stars have higher ceilings. You can win with a high quality QB game manager. But we've seen what a transformational QB like Dabo's two guys did for that program.
We also have the portal. I don't see this as a desperate situation at all.
"Williams displayed a big arm and accuracy"
It got quiet AF after this…your boy feeling like I’m not crazy anymore.
Hopefully he'll commit, then lock it down and welcome all challengers. That's the energy we need leading our program.Reading through some posts on Rivals board. Ferman says that Williams was told yesterday that Miami is still recruiting Moore and Rashada and both are iin play....
Hopefully he'll commit, then lock it down and welcome all challengers. That's the energy we need leading our program.
According to gaby the staff is focused on williams. Said the staff doesn’t expect rashada to visit.Reading through some posts on Rivals board. Ferman says that Williams was told yesterday that Miami is still recruiting Moore and Rashada and both are iin play....
At this point you could’ve just stopped and put a period after coming.Rashada is not coming if he won't visit anymore.
We have a bunch of star chasers on CIS only interested in winning some mythical recruiting championship. I want guys that are committed. Give me the guys that will bleed for and with you.
At this point, I could really care less about Rashada. If Williams has the goods, sign him and keep it moving. I want the best guy that is committed to the program. If Williams outperforms the guys ranked higher than him at the Elite 11 Finals, then what?
You all chasing the Kardashians cause they have more Twitter and Instagram followers, while you have women just a hot if not hotter in your own backyard without all the diva baggage.
Let's keep it 100. Nobody here knows any of these QBs on a personal level. Everyone is just relying on the videos and the recruiting evaluations they read. We don't know what motivates them or what type of competitors they are. Who can you go to war with and who is just a mercenary?
Just look at past recruiting classes across college football. Then look at who the super star QBs are in the NFL.
Here's where the 2021 Top 20 NFL QBs ranked going into college.
1. Tom Brady, N/A
Tom Brady, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Quarterback
Tom Brady is a Pro-Style Quarterback from San Mateo, CA.247sports.com
2. Aaron Rodgers, 3-star, #2 Pro JC
2003 Top Pro-Style Quarterback Recruits
The 247Sports rankings are determined by our recruiting analysts after countless hours of personal observations, film evaluation and input from our network of scouts.247sports.com
3. Josh Allen, 3-star, #5 Dual
Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills, Quarterback
Josh Allen is a 6-5, 210-pound Dual-Threat Quarterback from Reedley, CA.247sports.com
4. Justin Herbert, 3-star, #26 Pro
Justin Herbert, Los Angeles Chargers, Quarterback
Justin Herbert is a 6-5, 215-pound Pro-Style Quarterback from Eugene, OR.247sports.com
5. Mathew Stafford, 5-star, #1 Pro
Matthew Stafford, Los Angeles Rams, Quarterback
Matthew Stafford is a Pro-Style Quarterback from Dallas, TX. He has committed to Georgia Bulldogs.247sports.com
6. Joe Burrow, 4--star, #8 Pro
Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals, Quarterback
Threw for over 11,400 yards in high school... Led his team to the Division III state runner-up as a senior... Won Ohio Mr. Football, first-team all-state and...247sports.com
7. Patrick Mahomes II, 3-star, #22 Pro
Patrick Mahomes II, Kansas City Chiefs, Quarterback
Mahomes is the son of former Major League Baseball relief pitcher Pat Mahomes, who attended Lindale High School near Tyler, Texas.247sports.com
8. Kyler Murray, 5-star, #1 Dual
Kyler Murray, Arizona Cardinals, Quarterback
2015 Under Armour All-America Game selection...Kyler Murray is the son of former Texas A&M quarterback Kevin Murray...Named the National Gatorade Player of the...247sports.com
9. Dak Prescott, 3-star, #20 Dual
Dak Prescott, Dallas Cowboys, Quarterback
Graduated high school early and participated in MSU's 2011 spring drills.247sports.com
10. Derek Carr, 4-star, #16 Pro
Derek Carr, Las Vegas Raiders, Quarterback
Derek Carr is a Pro-Style Quarterback from Bakersfield, CA.247sports.com
11. Russell Wilson 3-star, #25 Dual
Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks, Quarterback
Wilson threw for 8,545 and 76 touchdowns in three season at N.C. State.247sports.com
12. Ryan Tannehill, 3-star, #19 Dual
Ryan Tannehill, Tennessee Titans, Quarterback
Ryan Tannehill is a Quarterback from Big Spring, TX247sports.com
13. Kirk Cousins, 3-star, #49 Pro
Kirk Cousins, Minnesota Vikings, Quarterback
Kirk Cousins is a 6-3, 202-pound Pro-Style Quarterback from Holland, MI. He has committed to Michigan State Spartans.247sports.com
14. Lamar Jackson, 3-star, #12 Dual
Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens, Quarterback
Lamar Jackson is a Dual-Threat Quarterback from Fort Lauderdale, FL.247sports.com
15. Matt Ryan, 3-star, #40 Pro
16. Mac Jones, 3-star, #18 Pro
Mac Jones, New England Patriots, Quarterback
Mac Jones is a 6-2, 180-pound Pro-Style Quarterback from Jacksonville, FL.247sports.com
17. Jalen Hurts, 4-star, #4 Dual
Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia Eagles, Quarterback
2014: Was named the District 21-6A Overall MVP as a junior....2013: Was a second-team all-district selection as a sophomore PERSONAL: He is the son of...247sports.com
18. Teddy Bridgewater, 4-star, #5 Dual
Teddy Bridgewater, New Orleans Saints, Quarterback
Teddy Bridgewater is a Athlete from Miami, FL. He is ranked No. 189 in the country by 247Sports. Bridgewater is the No. 39 recruit in Florida (FL) and is the...247sports.com
19. Carson Wentz, N/A
Carson Wentz, Indianapolis Colts, Quarterback
Carson Wentz is a Pro-Style Quarterback from Bismarck, ND.247sports.com
20. Jimmy Garoppolo, 2-star, #67 Pro
Jimmy Garoppolo, San Francisco 49ers, Quarterback
James Garoppolo is a Pro-Style Quarterback from Rolling Meadows, IL.247sports.com
Looking at the top 20 NFL QBs, here are their high school recruiting rankings:
Stars
5 - 2
4 - 4
3 - 11
2 - 1
N/A - 2
There are only two 5-star QBs rated in the top 20 of NFL QBs. Both were the #1 QBs in their recruiting classes.
The most QBs in the top 20 (11) were 3-star recruits coming out of high school.
What does this all mean?
Unless you have the #1 QB in a recruiting class, it all comes down to team evaluation, development, and the player's desire to improve. Recruiting rankings have little to nothing to do or predict how a high school QB is going to develop in college unless you have the number 1 guy and there were only 2 of them in the top 20 of NFL QBs. The evaluations from the people running these recruiting services should be in question.
I hope Emory Williams knocks it out of the park at the Elite 11 Finals. IF Miami isn't careful, they could wind up having to fight for this young man if his recruitment blows up.
One final thought. If Miami was in play for the #1 rated QB D.J. Uiagalelei in the 2020 class, our fans would have been screaming to get him over #7 Tyler Van Dyke. Based on their high school development it would have been justified. How does that look now?
From 2017-2021, Clemson recruited 4 QBs. They had 3 5-stars and the #4 4-star. Although the jury is still out on Uiagalelei, only Trevor Lawrence has done anything. Before him, it was Deshaun Watson in 2014 as the #1 4-star QB.
Trust the process not the rankings.
Agreed. Also, in 3 years Gattis is probably gone. He wants Moore because he recruited him at Michigan. If we get Moore, He will leave with Gattis when/if he becomes a head coach. Ponce is the OC in waiting. He's been on Williams for over a year. It makes perfect sense.As entertaining and true a post this was, I couldn’t care less if Williams is the guy! Some hammered me on here when we first talked about this kid. I said, when you probably lose TVD this year, have Garcia take over, then have Brown, you aren’t finding 5 star top 5 QBs who want that. They want to play! Williams has the arm and accuracy and will stay and develop! I’ll repeat that, he will stay and develop. No one does that today! It’s a smart approach by the staff to identify a kid they like but also can keep around. Brown needs to shirt.
It’s mostly pushback against bad habits on here. Kid is all right, he certainly is far from trash but he isn’t the prospect Rashada is. It comes down to the second it looked like Rashada wasn’t happening the typical excuses came in, Rashada is a head case and this kid is a monster we identified early. If Emory ends up the QB in this class then I will be fine with it but not ecstatic. It’s like landing a WR class of Robby, Fowles, and Seymore. You ain’t livid mad but you didn’t take care of business either, and no amount of rationalization will change that.
Jacurri single handedly willed his team to state championship games and first team all-state recognition.
This kid had his team go 5-5 playing JV teams in the middle of nowhere. HARD PASS unless he's QB2 in the class
What? That was one of the most talented "high school" teams in the state, ever. His teams were loaded with D1 talent, all over the place, regardless of what they did in college or beyond.
You can't be serious with the team comparison and he willed them to a state title comment.
We have a bunch of star chasers on CIS only interested in winning some mythical recruiting championship. I want guys that are committed. Give me the guys that will bleed for and with you.
At this point, I could really care less about Rashada. If Williams has the goods, sign him and keep it moving. I want the best guy that is committed to the program. If Williams outperforms the guys ranked higher than him at the Elite 11 Finals, then what?
You all chasing the Kardashians cause they have more Twitter and Instagram followers, while you have women just a hot if not hotter in your own backyard without all the diva baggage.
Let's keep it 100. Nobody here knows any of these QBs on a personal level. Everyone is just relying on the videos and the recruiting evaluations they read. We don't know what motivates them or what type of competitors they are. Who can you go to war with and who is just a mercenary?
Just look at past recruiting classes across college football. Then look at who the super star QBs are in the NFL.
Here's where the 2021 Top 20 NFL QBs ranked going into college.
1. Tom Brady, N/A
Tom Brady, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Quarterback
Tom Brady is a Pro-Style Quarterback from San Mateo, CA.247sports.com
2. Aaron Rodgers, 3-star, #2 Pro JC
2003 Top Pro-Style Quarterback Recruits
The 247Sports rankings are determined by our recruiting analysts after countless hours of personal observations, film evaluation and input from our network of scouts.247sports.com
3. Josh Allen, 3-star, #5 Dual
Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills, Quarterback
Josh Allen is a 6-5, 210-pound Dual-Threat Quarterback from Reedley, CA.247sports.com
4. Justin Herbert, 3-star, #26 Pro
Justin Herbert, Los Angeles Chargers, Quarterback
Justin Herbert is a 6-5, 215-pound Pro-Style Quarterback from Eugene, OR.247sports.com
5. Mathew Stafford, 5-star, #1 Pro
Matthew Stafford, Los Angeles Rams, Quarterback
Matthew Stafford is a Pro-Style Quarterback from Dallas, TX. He has committed to Georgia Bulldogs.247sports.com
6. Joe Burrow, 4--star, #8 Pro
Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals, Quarterback
Threw for over 11,400 yards in high school... Led his team to the Division III state runner-up as a senior... Won Ohio Mr. Football, first-team all-state and...247sports.com
7. Patrick Mahomes II, 3-star, #22 Pro
Patrick Mahomes II, Kansas City Chiefs, Quarterback
Mahomes is the son of former Major League Baseball relief pitcher Pat Mahomes, who attended Lindale High School near Tyler, Texas.247sports.com
8. Kyler Murray, 5-star, #1 Dual
Kyler Murray, Arizona Cardinals, Quarterback
2015 Under Armour All-America Game selection...Kyler Murray is the son of former Texas A&M quarterback Kevin Murray...Named the National Gatorade Player of the...247sports.com
9. Dak Prescott, 3-star, #20 Dual
Dak Prescott, Dallas Cowboys, Quarterback
Graduated high school early and participated in MSU's 2011 spring drills.247sports.com
10. Derek Carr, 4-star, #16 Pro
Derek Carr, Las Vegas Raiders, Quarterback
Derek Carr is a Pro-Style Quarterback from Bakersfield, CA.247sports.com
11. Russell Wilson 3-star, #25 Dual
Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks, Quarterback
Wilson threw for 8,545 and 76 touchdowns in three season at N.C. State.247sports.com
12. Ryan Tannehill, 3-star, #19 Dual
Ryan Tannehill, Tennessee Titans, Quarterback
Ryan Tannehill is a Quarterback from Big Spring, TX247sports.com
13. Kirk Cousins, 3-star, #49 Pro
Kirk Cousins, Minnesota Vikings, Quarterback
Kirk Cousins is a 6-3, 202-pound Pro-Style Quarterback from Holland, MI. He has committed to Michigan State Spartans.247sports.com
14. Lamar Jackson, 3-star, #12 Dual
Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens, Quarterback
Lamar Jackson is a Dual-Threat Quarterback from Fort Lauderdale, FL.247sports.com
15. Matt Ryan, 3-star, #40 Pro
16. Mac Jones, 3-star, #18 Pro
Mac Jones, New England Patriots, Quarterback
Mac Jones is a 6-2, 180-pound Pro-Style Quarterback from Jacksonville, FL.247sports.com
17. Jalen Hurts, 4-star, #4 Dual
Jalen Hurts, Philadelphia Eagles, Quarterback
2014: Was named the District 21-6A Overall MVP as a junior....2013: Was a second-team all-district selection as a sophomore PERSONAL: He is the son of...247sports.com
18. Teddy Bridgewater, 4-star, #5 Dual
Teddy Bridgewater, New Orleans Saints, Quarterback
Teddy Bridgewater is a Athlete from Miami, FL. He is ranked No. 189 in the country by 247Sports. Bridgewater is the No. 39 recruit in Florida (FL) and is the...247sports.com
19. Carson Wentz, N/A
Carson Wentz, Indianapolis Colts, Quarterback
Carson Wentz is a Pro-Style Quarterback from Bismarck, ND.247sports.com
20. Jimmy Garoppolo, 2-star, #67 Pro
Jimmy Garoppolo, San Francisco 49ers, Quarterback
James Garoppolo is a Pro-Style Quarterback from Rolling Meadows, IL.247sports.com
Looking at the top 20 NFL QBs, here are their high school recruiting rankings:
Stars
5 - 2
4 - 4
3 - 11
2 - 1
N/A - 2
There are only two 5-star QBs rated in the top 20 of NFL QBs. Both were the #1 QBs in their recruiting classes.
The most QBs in the top 20 (11) were 3-star recruits coming out of high school.
What does this all mean?
Unless you have the #1 QB in a recruiting class, it all comes down to team evaluation, development, and the player's desire to improve. Recruiting rankings have little to nothing to do or predict how a high school QB is going to develop in college unless you have the number 1 guy and there were only 2 of them in the top 20 of NFL QBs. The evaluations from the people running these recruiting services should be in question.
I hope Emory Williams knocks it out of the park at the Elite 11 Finals. If Miami isn't careful, they could wind up having to fight for this young man if his recruitment blows up.
One final thought. If Miami was in play for the #1 rated QB D.J. Uiagalelei in the 2020 class, our fans would have been screaming to get him over #7 Tyler Van Dyke. Based on their high school development it would have been justified. How does that look now?
From 2017-2021, Clemson recruited 4 QBs. They had 3 5-stars and the #4 4-star. Although the jury is still out on Uiagalelei, only Trevor Lawrence has done anything. Before him, it was Deshaun Watson in 2014 as the #1 4-star QB.
Trust the process not the rankings.