Duke In The Slot

[RiDLer80]

Duke in the slot is just ehhh to me. He hasn't looked great on WR screens or quick passes in the slot dating back to last year.
I'd like to see us utilize more RB screens though. Fisch ran middle screens and designed RB over the middle plays & they worked!

Last year? Because players can't improve their game from season to season.

You don't think Duke worked on his route running and hands this offseason?

 

[DHucks]

Duke caught 27 passes last year. Only 3-4 this year.

i dont remember those passes last year having any success.....

what does it matter if Duke is getting the ball 1 way or the other?

lol you all just like to see a bunch of random **** on the field w/ no end game for no reason other then what?

Georgia Tech doesn't ring any bells? **** near had the game winner on a screen. What are you talking about man?

 

[zone3cane]

Duke caught 27 passes last year. Only 3-4 this year.

i dont remember those passes last year having any success.....

what does it matter if Duke is getting the ball 1 way or the other?

lol you all just like to see a bunch of random **** on the field w/ no end game for no reason other then what?

Man what the **** are you talking about? How is wanting to get Duke the ball in space versus a LB or safety having no end game?

That's going to work against FSU???.... wtf r u talking about?

 

[DHucks]

Duke has already been overworked, run into the ground even, and you wanted him in the slot too?
- I bet you guys wanted him to return kicks as well.

Something else crazy I heard: we have been having a ****ty quarterback trying to play safety.

Don't believe it. Nope. Not listening!!

So you think we did right by only pounding him in the running game instead of splitting him out wide and in the slot to catch passes along with getting him involved in the screen game?

Duke only having 4 receptions this year is criminal.

This

Duke caught 27 passes last year. Only 3-4 this year.

i dont remember those passes last year having any success.....

what does it matter if Duke is getting the ball 1 way or the other?

lol you all just like to see a bunch of random **** on the field w/ no end game for no reason other then what?

Man what the **** are you talking about? How is wanting to get Duke the ball in space versus a LB or safety having no end game?

And this.

 

[MajorCane]

He's been used like Clinton Portis in the Joe Gibbs era.

 

[DHucks]

Alright John Madden, why wouldn't have worked? Let's gets some depth into your insight.

 

[zone3cane]

Duke caught 27 passes last year. Only 3-4 this year.

i dont remember those passes last year having any success.....

what does it matter if Duke is getting the ball 1 way or the other?

lol you all just like to see a bunch of random **** on the field w/ no end game for no reason other then what?

Georgia Tech doesn't ring any bells? **** near had the game winner on a screen. What are you talking about man?

Duke was running through GT just fine, he was running through FSU just fine.... it doesnt matter.

FSU still scored every time they had the ball besides those 2 interceptions.... what they punted once?

I thought the topic was Walford needs the ball?.... now it's duke in the slot lol. Walford did choke buddy, the constant juggling the ball **** ***ed up every play that was thrown to him.

 

[Angry Ibis]

why does it matter?

first it was why isnt Walford getting the ball more?.... well he got targeted more then any other receiver last night and he choked.

Last year Duke dropped every ball thrown his way in the slot and the play didnt look good anyway.....

"Duke in the slot" isnt a game changer, just like "Walford getting the ball more" isnt either.

Walford missed one pass last night. Far from choking. The bobbling was bad, but they ended up catches for positive yards. Duke would do fine in the slot. He was a "True Freshman" last year adjusting to the college level. Yeah he had a record year last year, but y'all act like he is a senior sometimes. Duke is only 19 years old. Given the opportunity, had he not been injured this year, I think he'd do fine.

Duke has already been overworked, run into the ground even, and you wanted him in the slot too?
- I bet you guys wanted him to return kicks as well.

Something else crazy I heard: we have been having a ****ty quarterback trying to play safety.

Don't believe it. Nope. Not listening!!

I'd rather see Duke in the slot, than returning kicks. He could get touches in space, instead of on run plays and returns. Those touches would bring the beating he takes down precipitously. Would have allowed Dallas, OT, and Gus to get more touches as well, all the while keeping Duke on the field.

This isn't a bad idea at all. D'Anthony Thomas seems to do extremely well used that way, and I believe how he has stayed healthy for vast majority of his tenure in Oregon as a 165lb running back.

Y'all nukas need to chill. That game last night against a **** good team got y'alls jimmies rustled like nobodies business. We lost to the #2 team in the nation, not WF, or UNC. Get your heads out your butts.

My jimmies are rustled about the injury to Duke and the missed plays last night. And some of the stupidity on this board but that is a given. I am fine with Duke running like a beast, but would also have used him more in the passing game.

 

[zone3cane]

So now the topic is... "Miami wouldve scored more points but still lost if Duke was in the slot more."

lol hilarious

 

[DHucks]

why does it matter?

first it was why isnt Walford getting the ball more?.... well he got targeted more then any other receiver last night and he choked.

Last year Duke dropped every ball thrown his way in the slot and the play didnt look good anyway.....

"Duke in the slot" isnt a game changer, just like "Walford getting the ball more" isnt either.

Walford missed one pass last night. Far from choking. The bobbling was bad, but they ended up catches for positive yards. Duke would do fine in the slot. He was a "True Freshman" last year adjusting to the college level. Yeah he had a record year last year, but y'all act like he is a senior sometimes. Duke is only 19 years old. Given the opportunity, had he not been injured this year, I think he'd do fine.

Duke has already been overworked, run into the ground even, and you wanted him in the slot too?
- I bet you guys wanted him to return kicks as well.

Something else crazy I heard: we have been having a ****ty quarterback trying to play safety.

Don't believe it. Nope. Not listening!!

I'd rather see Duke in the slot, than returning kicks. He could get touches in space, instead of on run plays and returns. Those touches would bring the beating he takes down precipitously. Would have allowed Dallas, OT, and Gus to get more touches as well, all the while keeping Duke on the field.

This isn't a bad idea at all. D'Anthony Thomas seems to do extremely well used that way, and I believe how he has stayed healthy for vast majority of his tenure in Oregon as a 165lb running back.

Y'all nukas need to chill. That game last night against a **** good team got y'alls jimmies rustled like nobodies business. We lost to the #2 team in the nation, not WF, or UNC. Get your heads out your butts.

My jimmies are rustled about the injury to Duke and the missed plays last night. And some of the stupidity on this board but that is a given. I am fine with Duke running like a beast, but would also have used him more in the passing game.

Duke's injury f'n sucks. I'm pretty bent about that too. Other than that, that's football.

Agree with the him in the passing game. Duke would have been useful in the slot this year. Even to pull a linebacker out of the box or something. Don't see where it would hurt. Maybe he doesn't get concussed if he in the slot versus UNC, or rolled up on last night to break his **** ankle. He would benefit greatly being used like Sproles, and not like AP. Get him out of the box some.

 

[DHucks]

So now the topic is... "Miami wouldve scored more points but still lost if Duke was in the slot more."

lol hilarious

Can you quote the reply where this has been made evident. Because it seems like that is more your perception at this point than it being reality.

I think what the topic is to everyone but you is that Duke in the slot would make a lot of sense from a scheme and health standpoint, not we would have beat FSU last night because of it or scored more points.

 

[Angry Ibis]

why does it matter?

first it was why isnt Walford getting the ball more?.... well he got targeted more then any other receiver last night and he choked.

Last year Duke dropped every ball thrown his way in the slot and the play didnt look good anyway.....

"Duke in the slot" isnt a game changer, just like "Walford getting the ball more" isnt either.

Walford missed one pass last night. Far from choking. The bobbling was bad, but they ended up catches for positive yards. Duke would do fine in the slot. He was a "True Freshman" last year adjusting to the college level. Yeah he had a record year last year, but y'all act like he is a senior sometimes. Duke is only 19 years old. Given the opportunity, had he not been injured this year, I think he'd do fine.

Duke has already been overworked, run into the ground even, and you wanted him in the slot too?
- I bet you guys wanted him to return kicks as well.

Something else crazy I heard: we have been having a ****ty quarterback trying to play safety.

Don't believe it. Nope. Not listening!!

I'd rather see Duke in the slot, than returning kicks. He could get touches in space, instead of on run plays and returns. Those touches would bring the beating he takes down precipitously. Would have allowed Dallas, OT, and Gus to get more touches as well, all the while keeping Duke on the field.

This isn't a bad idea at all. D'Anthony Thomas seems to do extremely well used that way, and I believe how he has stayed healthy for vast majority of his tenure in Oregon as a 165lb running back.

Y'all nukas need to chill. That game last night against a **** good team got y'alls jimmies rustled like nobodies business. We lost to the #2 team in the nation, not WF, or UNC. Get your heads out your butts.

My jimmies are rustled about the injury to Duke and the missed plays last night. And some of the stupidity on this board but that is a given. I am fine with Duke running like a beast, but would also have used him more in the passing game.

Duke's injury f'n sucks. I'm pretty bent about that too. Other than that, that's football.

Agree with the him in the passing game. Duke would have been useful in the slot this year. Even to pull a linebacker out of the box or something. Don't see where it would hurt. Maybe he doesn't get concussed if he in the slot versus UNC, or rolled up on last night to break his **** ankle. He would benefit greatly being used like Sproles, and not like AP. Get him out of the box some.

I think it would have allowed him more opportunities to be productive, but then also be a bit of a surprise when he did pound it relentlessly like against Wake.

 

[Oh Snap]

Lack of receptions also has to do with Morris not checking down when he has to imo.

 

[DHucks]

Duke caught 27 passes last year. Only 3-4 this year.

i dont remember those passes last year having any success.....

what does it matter if Duke is getting the ball 1 way or the other?

lol you all just like to see a bunch of random **** on the field w/ no end game for no reason other then what?

Georgia Tech doesn't ring any bells? **** near had the game winner on a screen. What are you talking about man?

Duke was running through GT just fine, he was running through FSU just fine.... it doesnt matter.

FSU still scored every time they had the ball besides those 2 interceptions.... what they punted once?

I thought the topic was Walford needs the ball?.... now it's duke in the slot lol. Walford did choke buddy, the constant juggling the ball **** ***ed up every play that was thrown to him.

The GT reference was from last years game.

Duke doesn't play defense. FSU scoring isn't his problem.

I guess Walford should have dropped the ball then.

SMH. Y'all dudes need a break from this 'Canes stuff.

 

[DHucks]

why does it matter?

first it was why isnt Walford getting the ball more?.... well he got targeted more then any other receiver last night and he choked.

Last year Duke dropped every ball thrown his way in the slot and the play didnt look good anyway.....

"Duke in the slot" isnt a game changer, just like "Walford getting the ball more" isnt either.

Walford missed one pass last night. Far from choking. The bobbling was bad, but they ended up catches for positive yards. Duke would do fine in the slot. He was a "True Freshman" last year adjusting to the college level. Yeah he had a record year last year, but y'all act like he is a senior sometimes. Duke is only 19 years old. Given the opportunity, had he not been injured this year, I think he'd do fine.

Duke has already been overworked, run into the ground even, and you wanted him in the slot too?
- I bet you guys wanted him to return kicks as well.

Something else crazy I heard: we have been having a ****ty quarterback trying to play safety.

Don't believe it. Nope. Not listening!!

I'd rather see Duke in the slot, than returning kicks. He could get touches in space, instead of on run plays and returns. Those touches would bring the beating he takes down precipitously. Would have allowed Dallas, OT, and Gus to get more touches as well, all the while keeping Duke on the field.

This isn't a bad idea at all. D'Anthony Thomas seems to do extremely well used that way, and I believe how he has stayed healthy for vast majority of his tenure in Oregon as a 165lb running back.

Y'all nukas need to chill. That game last night against a **** good team got y'alls jimmies rustled like nobodies business. We lost to the #2 team in the nation, not WF, or UNC. Get your heads out your butts.

My jimmies are rustled about the injury to Duke and the missed plays last night. And some of the stupidity on this board but that is a given. I am fine with Duke running like a beast, but would also have used him more in the passing game.

Duke's injury f'n sucks. I'm pretty bent about that too. Other than that, that's football.

Agree with the him in the passing game. Duke would have been useful in the slot this year. Even to pull a linebacker out of the box or something. Don't see where it would hurt. Maybe he doesn't get concussed if he in the slot versus UNC, or rolled up on last night to break his **** ankle. He would benefit greatly being used like Sproles, and not like AP. Get him out of the box some.

I think it would have allowed him more opportunities to be productive, but then also be a bit of a surprise when he did pound it relentlessly like against Wake.

Against Wake, ish won't fly against FSU for the whole game. He isn't built that way. Agree 100% other than that.

 

[zone3cane]

So now the topic is... "Miami wouldve scored more points but still lost if Duke was in the slot more."

lol hilarious

Can you quote the reply where this has been made evident. Because it seems like that is more your perception at this point than it being reality.

I think what the topic is to everyone but you is that Duke in the slot would make a lot of sense from a scheme and health standpoint, not we would have beat FSU last night because of it or scored more points.

Why would Duke in the slot make a lot of sense from a scheme standpoint?

Jedd Fisch did it and nothing happened..... i agree that Duke couldve been used in space more like how FSU got Freeman out in the bubble screens, but i dont see the slot position being a difference maker

 

[DHucks]

So now the topic is... "Miami wouldve scored more points but still lost if Duke was in the slot more."

lol hilarious

Can you quote the reply where this has been made evident. Because it seems like that is more your perception at this point than it being reality.

I think what the topic is to everyone but you is that Duke in the slot would make a lot of sense from a scheme and health standpoint, not we would have beat FSU last night because of it or scored more points.

Why would Duke in the slot make a lot of sense from a scheme standpoint?

Jedd Fisch did it and nothing happened..... i agree that Duke couldve been used in space more like how FSU got Freeman out in the bubble screens, but i dont see the slot position being a difference maker

Again, goes back to Duke being a TFR last year. Scheme wise, teams account for him. They fear him in space, and enjoy him trying to run between the tackles far more than dealing with him in space. He could have developed a ton in the off season. With that development, he would have made a difference. Most of it indirect, like having the opponents defense adjust to him being there, or just getting him out of the box, not taking some much punishment.

 

[zone3cane]

So now the topic is... "Miami wouldve scored more points but still lost if Duke was in the slot more."

lol hilarious

Can you quote the reply where this has been made evident. Because it seems like that is more your perception at this point than it being reality.

I think what the topic is to everyone but you is that Duke in the slot would make a lot of sense from a scheme and health standpoint, not we would have beat FSU last night because of it or scored more points.

Why would Duke in the slot make a lot of sense from a scheme standpoint?

Jedd Fisch did it and nothing happened..... i agree that Duke couldve been used in space more like how FSU got Freeman out in the bubble screens, but i dont see the slot position being a difference maker

Again, goes back to Duke being a TFR last year. Scheme wise, teams account for him. They fear him in space, and enjoy him trying to run between the tackles far more than dealing with him in space. He could have developed a ton in the off season. With that development, he would have made a difference. Most of it indirect, like having the opponents defense adjust to him being there, or just getting him out of the box, not taking some much punishment.

Duke dishes out just as much punishment as he takes, he knocked out Terrance Brooks in a collision before his injury...... the ankle injury was a freak accident, he didnt protect himself and put himself in a situation where he got his ankle caught up under him.

Players get injured in space 2, so that doesnt matter it's football.... Duke was having a very good season this year. Most of his "migraines" before now have been b/c of pass blocking not running.

Duke wants to run physical.... putting him out in space would not have had any success against FSU, you have to run right at them. Thats why he was on pace for about 150 yards rushinig or more last night.

 

[RideorDie]

Have we ran any pitches I really just cant remember it seems like he have not

 

[dk72]

Duke caught 27 passes last year. Only 3-4 this year.

i dont remember those passes last year having any success.....

what does it matter if Duke is getting the ball 1 way or the other?

lol you all just like to see a bunch of random **** on the field w/ no end game for no reason other then what?

Georgia Tech doesn't ring any bells? **** near had the game winner on a screen. What are you talking about man?

Duke was running through GT just fine, he was running through FSU just fine.... it doesnt matter.

FSU still scored every time they had the ball besides those 2 interceptions.... what they punted once?

I thought the topic was Walford needs the ball?.... now it's duke in the slot lol. Walford did choke buddy, the constant juggling the ball **** ***ed up every play that was thrown to him.

I know you've got a man crush on Morris, but one of those juggling catches was Morris' fault, and he was lucky Walford was able to catch it. The throw was behind Walford instead of hitting him in stride (something Morris seems to be incapable of doing on any pass under 20 yards). Walford had to twist around and back to catch the ball. So while Walford's drop and other bobble were on him, that one was Walford bailing out Morris.