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Do Star matter?

Santa said:
Thread Killa said:
Look at the schools that have won the coaRstal and went to the ACC CG since Miami joined...they all must have recruited better than Miami and had higher rated classes.
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Miami recruits well enough to win the Coastal, but it doesn't help that we have to play an FSU team every year that is more talented than we are, while Duke, VA Tech, and UNC have Boston College and Wake Forest as their cross divisional matchup
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What is your excuse when coaRstal teams beat Miami?


JohnZarrilli said:
It's not rocket science, which is why I'm surprised this point is even debated anymore. The team with the best players usually wins and the team with the best players is almost always that team that recruits better.
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Does this apply to our losses this year? Last year? Year before that?
 

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Both yes & no...

Stars absolutley matter, but they don't exclusively matter...

There are high rated 4/5-star kids that will bust & there are low rated 3-star kids who will excel greatly & become big time players.

There's dozens of other variables that factor in how kids develop and how well they'll play within a system, their star rating doesn't determine how they'll grow into their full maximum potentiality.

Star ratings are simply a measuring stick of potential talent & ability, it's not the final defining meter of how good a player is or isn't...

There's things that Websites don't know about players, like their background, home life & family circumstances they come from, or how hungry they are to be something.

The #1 rusher in the Nation was not a 5-star RB, a lot of that has to do with system/Offense he plays in, but based on star ratings coming out of high school, no one would assume he would end up being a 2,000yd rusher.

A player like Ray Lewis who was extremely productive in High School both in Football & Wrestling probably would be a 4/5-star LB/ATH coming out of school today, but that would be based on how great a player he was & phenomenal athletic ability...

What couldn't be measured was what drove him to be such a great player on the field, which was his crazy home life with his Mom & being dirt poor, these recruiting sites don't know anything about that (not that they should), but heart, drive, & determination are things that simply cannot be predicted by anyone.

A lot of high rated kids grew up pampered, entitled & never amount to ****... Rivals, Scout or ESPN can't tell you that in their rankings.

There's a lot of 3-star kids who have a big chip on their shoulder & are going to outwork a 5-star kid all **** day...

Ultimately, "Stars do matter", but its not the ONLY thing that matters when evaluating a player.
 
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I'll take a 4 star or 3 star player that's ****ed off he isn't rated higher, over the 5-star kid that feels entitled to everything.
 
Star rankings can be kinda sketchy when recruiting South Florida kids.

We have kids down here that might be 4/5 stars if they were playing high school ball somewhere else. Fact is, we have soooo much talented depth down here that there's simply no way the recruiting services could issue 4/5 stars to all the kids down here who deserve them. We've got 3 star kids in South Florida who have offers from top-10 teams.

We also have a lot of kids down here that may be a bit too undersized to receive that extra star. However, the recruiting services don't take into account that South FLA kids are dogs and that inch that he's missing ain't gonna affect him. (Bandy for example)

I truly believe that many of our 3 star kids are better than a lot of 4/5 star kids from other areas.
 
I proved this every year for a 5 year stretch in the mid to late 2000's.

there wasn't a single draft class where it didn't matter and and in every year it mattered A LOT.

The main finding was that if a kid is not ranked in the top 30 at his position, it's really a huge up hill battle.

I'd imagine the ratings are even better these days.

Anyway...

Thanks OP. Very good read.
 
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Yup. Anyone who disagrees is either living in the past thinking we have the staff that Butch had or is just delusional.
 
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Coach Macho said:
Star rankings can be kinda sketchy when recruiting South Florida kids.

We have kids down here that might be 4/5 stars if they were playing high school ball somewhere else. Fact is, we have soooo much talented depth down here that there's simply no way the recruiting services could issue 4/5 stars to all the kids down here who deserve them. We've got 3 star kids in South Florida who have offers from top-10 teams.

We also have a lot of kids down here that may be a bit too undersized to receive that extra star. However, the recruiting services don't take into account that South FLA kids are dogs and that inch that he's missing ain't gonna affect him. (Bandy for example)

I truly believe that many of our 3 star kids are better than a lot of 4/5 star kids from other areas.
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Ahhh the old "a South Florida 3 star is as good as a 5 star from XYZ" argument.

LOL no serious person buys this anymore.

If anything, being in South Florida gives a kid MORE exposure and therefore MORE chances to get that 4th star than kids from some part of the country where scouts don't typically go

I would go as far as to say that a 3 star from St Louis or the DC area is much more likely to be underrated than a kid from South Florida, where you have legions of scouts, college recruiters, and handlers waiting to discover any kid with even a hint of athletic abilitiy. That's not even to mention the scores of 7 on 7s, camps, etc that give these kids down here massive exposure.

****, in South Florida you know who the studs are half the time when they're in optimist.

Nobody buys the "underrated south Florida kid" spiel anymore. It's nothing but a way for local high school coaches to push their B-level kids on Miami while sending their best to Alabama
 
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Santa said:
Coach Macho said:
Star rankings can be kinda sketchy when recruiting South Florida kids.

We have kids down here that might be 4/5 stars if they were playing high school ball somewhere else. Fact is, we have soooo much talented depth down here that there's simply no way the recruiting services could issue 4/5 stars to all the kids down here who deserve them. We've got 3 star kids in South Florida who have offers from top-10 teams.

We also have a lot of kids down here that may be a bit too undersized to receive that extra star. However, the recruiting services don't take into account that South FLA kids are dogs and that inch that he's missing ain't gonna affect him. (Bandy for example)

I truly believe that many of our 3 star kids are better than a lot of 4/5 star kids from other areas.
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Ahhh the old "a South Florida 3 star is as good as a 5 star from XYZ" argument.

LOL no serious person buys this anymore.

If anything, being in South Florida gives a kid MORE exposure and therefore MORE chances to get that 4th star than kids from some part of the country where scouts don't typically go

I would go as far as to say that a 3 star from St Louis or the DC area is much more likely to be underrated than a kid from South Florida, where you have legions of scouts, college recruiters, and handlers waiting to discover any kid with even a hint of athletic abilitiy. That's not even to mention the scores of 7 on 7s, camps, etc that give these kids down here massive exposure.

****, in South Florida you know who the studs are half the time when they're in optimist.

Nobody buys the "underrated south Florida kid" spiel anymore. It's nothing but a way for local high school coaches to push their B-level kids on Miami while sending their best to Alabama
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Did you miss my point about scouts/services not being able to issue every stud kid down here a 4th star because there's simply too many of them?

There's more Miami/Dade kids in the NFL than any other region. You think they were all 4/5 stars? There's been kids down here who were 3-stars that had offers from schools like LSU, Clemson, Miami, FSU, Florida, even Bama.

There's simply too many stud players down here to issue them all 4/5 stars. Kids from STL and DC that are studs STICK OUT MORE.
 
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FrankTheTank said:
F*ck the stars if their a great football player. Lets get some tough dudes with chips on their shoulder (Wilder,Bandy) to maul these divas on Saturdays

The staring system seems very biased and flawed also. Wtf is the difference between a high 3* & a 4*?!?! If the coach at your presepctive school knows you can play stars are irrlevant. We have jennings & wilder as 3 stars this cycle both are both criminally underrated.

Does this stop Coach Diaz from persuing them because some smuck that never strapped a helmet on is grading them as lower stars? No beacuase stars dont matter if you can play Ex: Mike Pinckney (3 star)

People care more about a star rating then the kids actual skill set

Go Canes
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If the kid is a great football player, people will notice and rate him accordingly.
 
Yes.... Don't get fooled by people on here thinking stars don't matter. Get top blue chip players you will win... Plain and simple
 
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