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Do our lbs play too far off the ball?

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For those who know, is there are typical yardage from the line of scrimmage where they're suppose to line up? I watched our guys line up at least 5 yards off the ball. Then I watched where VT played their guys and LSU and Bama too. Seemed that these other defenses had their guys a little closer to the line, more in the 4 yard range. Sometimes even 3.5 or 3 yards off the ball.

Playing further off the ball has several disadvantages: 1. on wide running plays, our lbs have to run further to get to the ball carrier and/or meet him further down the field after the rb turns the corner. 2. once our lbs diagnose a play as a run, they have further to go to reach the line of scrimmage and fill gaps. That means the opposing oline can just focus on the dl and it makes it easier for olinemen to move to the second level and pick off our lbs. 3. longer to run on blitzes and it gives the ol more time to see these guys coming.
 
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I don't know if their depth is the issue. But I do know they are horrific at diagnosing plays in pass coverage. And that goes for Perryman as well. He couldn't even tackle tonight.

Talent is definitely an issue, but there's no excuse for some of that stuff tonight. LBs shouldn't be this confused.
 
able, there are definitely much bigger issues than this on defense, just something i picked up on tonight. seems a little passive to me, which is kind of a theme with this defense. i'm off to bed
 
I went to the game, and if you observe where the ball isn't around you would be surprised how bad D'nofrios defense is. Linebackers work the middle of the field while the Hback goes to the flats with no one covering him. I could really say that Golden knows his DC isn't getting it done. You can definitely see it on the field.
 
Yes they do...the line up five yard off then back pedal 10. They react slow to then run because their so far off the los. They give up big yards underneath because when it's pass they drop back 10 yards, therefore, creating 15 yards of space between them and any underneath routes
 
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Rb just caught a swing pass.
Oh no I was wrong another random player cathes a pass over the middle to convert third and long.
 
It seems as if they give 5 yards in coverage too, setting ourselves up for failure. This provides the offensive player enough time to gain yards and make defenders miss. I'm sick of this conservative crap.
 
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CanesAreAble said:
I don't know if their depth is the issue. But I do know they are horrific at diagnosing plays in pass coverage. And that goes for Perryman as well. He couldn't even tackle tonight.

Talent is definitely an issue, but there's no excuse for some of that stuff tonight. LBs shouldn't be this confused.
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Talent is a lame excuse at this point. DP is 1st round material on a real defense. So par for the course he'll get drafted in the 3rd round and become a pro bowl player.
 
DeadPoets said:
CanesAreAble said:
I don't know if their depth is the issue. But I do know they are horrific at diagnosing plays in pass coverage. And that goes for Perryman as well. He couldn't even tackle tonight.

Talent is definitely an issue, but there's no excuse for some of that stuff tonight. LBs shouldn't be this confused.
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Talent is a lame excuse at this point. DP is 1st round material on a real defense. So par for the course he'll get drafted in the 3rd round and become a pro bowl player.
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I know there is a huge love fest with DP. I don't see it. 1st round talent? C'mon man. Barrow, Armstead and Smith weren't first rounders. **** Ted fffnnn Hendricks wasn't a first rounder. Good God man Armstead was an eighth rounder.
 
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Our whole team plays too off the ball. Its like there is a rule we cant pass the LOS

DBs back pedaling 20 yards.

Teams should be embarrassed when they punt vs us
 
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Not far enough back. They should be on the sideline on 3rd & long. That's the problem.

VT goes 4 wide and send a RB out on a route. We try covering that with our 4-3 rush look. Tuuurrrrribble.
 
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Wildcat Defense! Where you been bro? Alot of cats on here owe you an apology. You tried to preach for weeks that this scheme was holding us back but cats said it was personnel. I think you got a few more members to your fan club bruh.

Anyway, I watched ALAs defense and those LBs are active pre-snap, ALWAYS near the ball because they are not too far from the LOS and their secondary is ALWAYS near the ball too. Its scary watching their D because its almost like they have 13-15 guys on the field because there is ALWAYS 2-3 guys around the ball within seconds of the action progressing. I think with the class coming in we will have the athletes to get their we just need to fire a few folks on the D coaching staff.
 
Jassid82 said:
Wildcat Defense! Where you been bro? Alot of cats on here owe you an apology. You tried to preach for weeks that this scheme was holding us back but cats said it was personnel. I think you got a few more members to your fan club bruh.

Anyway, I watched ALAs defense and those LBs are active pre-snap, ALWAYS near the ball because they are not too far from the LOS and their secondary is ALWAYS near the ball too. Its scary watching their D because its almost like they have 13-15 guys on the field because there is ALWAYS 2-3 guys around the ball within seconds of the action progressing. I think with the class coming in we will have the athletes to get their we just need to fire a few folks on the D coaching staff.
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Just been laying low bro. No need for me to pump my chest.
 
Nah bruh you need to pump that **** all over this board. Got cats on here talkin' strictly scheme in every thread and not even TALKING ONE BIT about the personnel on D no more. LOL! Thats how you know you crushed it.
 
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