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Depth Chart without players from the previous regime

LuCane said:
rokulika said:
LuCane said:
rokulika said:
How many games would this team win in 2013?



QB Williams/Crow/Dewey/Thompson/Olsen

RB Duke/Dallas/Dillard/Edwards/Elder

WR Dorsett/Lewis/Jones/Lockhart

WR Waters/Scott/Carter/Coley

TE Sandland/O'Donnell/Dobard

OL Flowers/Isidora/Knighton/Wells/Gadbois/Sonny/Briscoe/Gall

DE Chickillo/Grimble/Williams

DT Pierre/Kamalu

DT King/Moore/Ivery

DE Hamilton/AQM/Hoilett

LB Denzel/Grace/Armbrister

LB Kirby/Blue

LB Figueroa/McCord/Bond

CB Gunter/Howard/Crawford/Dortch/Hope/Burns

S Bush/Jenkins/Carter/Lewis/Lockley

K/P Goudis/O'Donnell/Barnard
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This exercise is premature and shows either a lack of understanding of college football or a poor job of trolling. In either case, I don't see why this would be a compelling discussion.
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Maybe you're right. Maybe I should have made this post about Matthew Thomas. Maybe that would generate some fodder. Shame on me.
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I removed the rest of my commentary because I realized maybe you're just trying to incite discussion. It just so happens to be that a lot of your commentary swings in one direction. In this case, I really don't understand the objective.

Let's talk about how far a car would go if it didn't have wheels. Should be fun.
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That's understandable Lu. However, a few people have answered the question and others have commented. Hang on while I make a thread about Eddie Johnson's twitter.
 
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rokulika said:
LuCane said:
rokulika said:
LuCane said:
rokulika said:
How many games would this team win in 2013?



QB Williams/Crow/Dewey/Thompson/Olsen

RB Duke/Dallas/Dillard/Edwards/Elder

WR Dorsett/Lewis/Jones/Lockhart

WR Waters/Scott/Carter/Coley

TE Sandland/O'Donnell/Dobard

OL Flowers/Isidora/Knighton/Wells/Gadbois/Sonny/Briscoe/Gall

DE Chickillo/Grimble/Williams

DT Pierre/Kamalu

DT King/Moore/Ivery

DE Hamilton/AQM/Hoilett

LB Denzel/Grace/Armbrister

LB Kirby/Blue

LB Figueroa/McCord/Bond

CB Gunter/Howard/Crawford/Dortch/Hope/Burns

S Bush/Jenkins/Carter/Lewis/Lockley

K/P Goudis/O'Donnell/Barnard
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This exercise is premature and shows either a lack of understanding of college football or a poor job of trolling. In either case, I don't see why this would be a compelling discussion.
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Maybe you're right. Maybe I should have made this post about Matthew Thomas. Maybe that would generate some fodder. Shame on me.
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I removed the rest of my commentary because I realized maybe you're just trying to incite discussion. It just so happens to be that a lot of your commentary swings in one direction. In this case, I really don't understand the objective.

Let's talk about how far a car would go if it didn't have wheels. Should be fun.
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That's understandable Lu. However, a few people have answered the question and others have commented. Hang on while I make a thread about Eddie Johnson's twitter.
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You're more than smart enough to see my point is that, between the inevitable results of this exercise (how could we really win many games without a QB or our best OL) and your skepticism on Golden (warranted, for the most part, I think), this thread looked less like an attempt to discuss something and more like a statement.
 
I really think this team could win as many as 8 games. The defense doesn't change much (Porter being the big hit) while the offense would need to overcome a young OL with a stud LT. Experienced QB, good RBs, good WRs and TEs.

Between 6 and 8 wins
 
rokulika said:
I really think this team could win as many as 8 games. The defense doesn't change much (Porter being the big hit) while the offense would need to overcome a young OL with a stud LT. Experienced QB, good RBs, good WRs and TEs.

Between 6 and 8 wins
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I think, without Morris, we're really ****ed. Like 6 games at most. I think without Morris, Linder, Hendo, Feliciano, and Porter, we're a 4-5 game win team THIS YEAR. I think that dynamic changes next year, obviously. Either way, we need a QB. Morris should be a f'in rising Junior.
 
That is a **** shame about Morris. Taylor Cook and Cannon Smith really screwed things up. Well, Shannon screwed things up by recruiting them. If we're having this conversation about being ****ed without Morris now, we better hope that someone emerges by 2014 (duh). I don't know just how bad the OL would be with Flowers as the anchor. Gadbois and Wells are two years out of HS. Isidora and Sonny are 1 year out of HS and are plenty big. Knighton has a spring under his belt. Far from ideal of course, but maybe not a total train wreck.
 
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OL should be great in 14. Flowers is a beast. Feliciano to me is a great OG. Bunche and McDermott will be back. Just need to find 2 more to fill a spot or 2. Isadora is a guy that I'm interested in seeing. Then the 2014 class is sick but obviously won't be ready yet.

Real shame about Morris. Spencer Whipple as a backup, ha.
 
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A few 2014 possibilities:

Flowers
Feliciano
McDermott
Bunche
Gadbois

or

Flowers
Feliciano
McDermott
Isidora
Bunche

or

Flowers
Bunche
McDermott
Isidora
Feliciano
 
DiegoCane said:
Flowers
Isadora
mcDermott
Feliciano
Bunche

Is my way too far off prediction.
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Would be surprised if it weren't this one. If it isn't, it's because someone took a **** of a leap. That someone being Gadbois or Sonny, as examples.

Feliciano and Bunche offer us tremendous flexibility, though. That OLine may not be as good as this year's, but it'll be pretty **** good.
 
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TheSwagger1 said:
QB and DTs are weaknesses, which is the one area most universally criticize Golden thus far. To be fair, I don't think Golden will whiff on DTs for 4 years straight, so if you're saying that THIS IS A GOLDEN TEAM, (and be honest, that was your implication) it's not really accurate.
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In all fairness and stop me if I am rationalizing here but I only look at 2013 as being a failure for DT recruiting. 2011 he gets a pass on everything as he only had over a month to scramble and but a class together. We got the bodies in 2012, although the talent wasn't great. Also the sanctions cloud weighed heavy there in a year where there was too much available at the position locally. 2013 though was an utter failure.
 
bobbydigius said:
TheSwagger1 said:
QB and DTs are weaknesses, which is the one area most universally criticize Golden thus far. To be fair, I don't think Golden will whiff on DTs for 4 years straight, so if you're saying that THIS IS A GOLDEN TEAM, (and be honest, that was your implication) it's not really accurate.
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In all fairness and stop me if I am rationalizing here but I only look at 2013 as being a failure for DT recruiting. 2011 he gets a pass on everything as he only had over a month to scramble and but a class together. We got the bodies in 2012, although the talent wasn't great. Also the sanctions cloud weighed heavy there in a year where there was too much available at the position locally. 2013 though was an utter failure.
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2011 you aren't rationalizing. I think we all can agree that Golden walked into a horrible situation there. Other than that, I would say you are rationalizing. When you consider that we have been able to recruit decent/well at almost every single position EXCEPT DT, then I think that signals something is wrong.
 
I'd like to see if there's one guy that Golden booted/cut/parted ways with from either Shannon's guys or his guys that have actually made an impact anywhere.
 
rudebuddha said:
I'd like to see if there's one guy that Golden booted/cut/parted ways with from either Shannon's guys or his guys that have actually made an impact anywhere.
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The closest thing to an impact player would be Storm Johnson at UCF. Of the rest of the guys who were told to get lost, I don't even think any of them are at D1-A schools.
 
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OP Fail.
Players from previous regime have now spent more time under Golden than Shannon. They've been cleansed from the ineptness.
 
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DiegoCane said:
OL should be great in 14. Flowers is a beast. Feliciano to me is a great OG. Bunche and McDermott will be back. Just need to find 2 more to fill a spot or 2. Isadora is a guy that I'm interested in seeing. Then the 2014 class is sick but obviously won't be ready yet.

Real shame about Morris. Spencer Whipple as a backup, ha.
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I could see the younger McDermott stepping and starting from day1.
 
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