Dennis Dodd: NCAA accusses UM of deflecting allegations...

[deleted3746]

The NCAA is mad, real mad. Butthurt too.

 

[CANE]

The ncaa needs to drop it.

Miami in its motion cited a case against Pittsburgh that was dropped in the 1970s because "evidence had been fabricated by a member of the NCAA staff."

There's TONS of evidence fabricated. Who da **** builds a case on the word a convicted con artist?

 

[MIA42178]

I don't know how lawyers do it. For me, a smug response like this would instigate a physically violent response.

I am a lawyer and don't consider anyone from the NCAA working this thing a lawyer. I don't care if they graduated from a law school. I don't really care whether they passed a bar exam. I'm just telling you that nothing they've done is evidence of them being lawyers.

 

[ADELPHI]

Can we hire a guy like this..seriously. Aside from Emmert, who else is on the list?

 

[BALDYCHUTES]

Top 10 favorite flicks. That movie was EPIC.

Can we hire a guy like this..seriously. Aside from Emmert, who else is on the list?

 

[RiDLer80]

At first the conspiracy theory about the NCAA clearing away competition for the SEC was fun to joke about, but I'm seriously starting to think that may be the case.

 

[UM2020]

At first the conspiracy theory about the NCAA clearing away competition for the SEC was fun to joke about, but I'm seriously starting to think that may be the case.

I was also, but now I am all in.

 

[MedleyCane]

At first the conspiracy theory about the NCAA clearing away competition for the SEC was fun to joke about, but I'm seriously starting to think that may be the case.

I never thought it was a joke.
I took it seriously, especially given the fact that when was the last time an SEC school got busted for anything?
And we all know the stories about their recruiting shenanigans in soFla and elsewhere (Scam Newton).

 

[RiDLer80]

Oregon
USC
Ohio State
Miami
Boise State
UNC with Butch churning out NFL players

This **** ain't no coincidence.

 

[Kn[]_[]ckles3o5]

At first the conspiracy theory about the NCAA clearing away competition for the SEC was fun to joke about, but I'm seriously starting to think that may be the case.

I never thought it was a joke.
I took it seriously, especially given the fact that when was the last time an SEC school got busted for anything?
And we all know the stories about their recruiting shenanigans in soFla and elsewhere (Scam Newton).

"They put a Scam Newton Jersey on the bear? I had to poison them trees."

 

[Trilla]

At first the conspiracy theory about the NCAA clearing away competition for the SEC was fun to joke about, but I'm seriously starting to think that may be the case.

I never thought it was a joke.
I took it seriously, especially given the fact that when was the last time an SEC school got busted for anything?
And we all know the stories about their recruiting shenanigans in soFla and elsewhere (Scam Newton).

"They put a Scam Newton Jersey on the bear? I had to poison them trees."

"I gotta do it Paul...Roll **** tide" hilarious 30 for 30 nonetheless

 

[FullyERicht]

At first the conspiracy theory about the NCAA clearing away competition for the SEC was fun to joke about, but I'm seriously starting to think that may be the case.

It's so obvious that they tried whatever they could to bury USC and us. It's obvious.

 

[FullyERicht]

Why do they care? That's the whe point. They have become emotionally invested in hurting Miami. Their job was to investigate and write a report what they found. Instead they go to lengths to continue to slander the University. All to help the SEC.

 

[CANE1775]

At first the conspiracy theory about the NCAA clearing away competition for the SEC was fun to joke about, but I'm seriously starting to think that may be the case.

I never thought it was a joke.
I took it seriously, especially given the fact that when was the last time an SEC school got busted for anything?
And we all know the stories about their recruiting shenanigans in soFla and elsewhere (Scam Newton).

"They put a Scam Newton Jersey on the bear? I had to poison them trees."

"I gotta do it Paul...Roll **** tide" hilarious 30 for 30 nonetheless

I'm an Auburn grad, and even I fell on the floor laughing at the "I gotta do it Paul" line.

 

[NorthFlaCane]

That's the enforcement arm's response. Not the COI member that is considering the motion.

 

[The Franchise]

At this point, what the **** else could they even say?

That's some limp wristed ****assness akin to your girlfriend bringing up the stripper you finger banged 5 years ago at a drunken bachelor party.

Who finger bangs a stripper?

 

[MIA42178]

That's the enforcement arm's response. Not the COI member that is considering the motion.

It's a REALLY dumb response to a motion to dismiss though, as a poster noted earlier in the thread. Miami wasn't disputing the allegations (that would come at the COI hearing itself as I understand)--it was a motion to dismiss (not a reply to the allegations)--so, the whole argument was about whether there is enough properly gathered evidence to support any of the allegations. But the dmbfcks respond, quite arrogantly, that Miami is just deflecting from the allegations?!

 

[The Franchise]

Why do they care? That's the whe point. They have become emotionally invested in hurting Miami. Their job was to investigate and write a report what they found. Instead they go to lengths to continue to slander the University. All to help the SEC.

They care because they're protecting their jobs. Money is one of the biggest motivators in the history of the world.

They got in too deep with this, and now, instead of having the ability to say, "we've done a thorough investigation in conjunction with the ultra-cooperative University of Miami and found no sufficiently corroborated allegations that would justify any further punishment" they have to resort to heel digging to justify the 3 years and countless dollars they wasted chasing the flimsy allegations of a convicted liar with a stated vendetta.

As soon as I saw all that verbiage about getting "creative" in order to find new ways to make cases against member institutions I knew there was going to be problems. Getting "creative" is a euphemism for being a scumbag piece of **** when it comes to investigative organizations. They don't need to get "creative"; they need to see exactly what is there and be forthright about it. Save the creativity for the artists of the world. That's not the ncaa's job.

 

[Bennubird]

Excellent post, which points to the fact that the NCAA is not interested in dealing with the facts - seemingly at any level - and are more concerned to create an impression in the media that we are being defiant rather than responsible. It is fooling no one. This is typical of an organization that is poorly run, has a weak case, and is running out of options.

That's the enforcement arm's response. Not the COI member that is considering the motion.

It's a REALLY dumb response to a motion to dismiss though, as a poster noted earlier in the thread. Miami wasn't disputing the allegations (that would come at the COI hearing itself as I understand)--it was a motion to dismiss (not a reply to the allegations)--so, the whole argument was about whether there is enough properly gathered evidence to support any of the allegations. But the dmbfcks respond, quite arrogantly, that Miami is just deflecting from the allegations?!

 

[Consigliere]

Why do they care? That's the whe point. They have become emotionally invested in hurting Miami. Their job was to investigate and write a report what they found. Instead they go to lengths to continue to slander the University. All to help the SEC.

They care because they're protecting their jobs. Money is one of the biggest motivators in the history of the world.

They got in too deep with this, and now, instead of having the ability to say, "we've done a thorough investigation in conjunction with the ultra-cooperative University of Miami and found no sufficiently corroborated allegations that would justify any further punishment" they have to resort to heel digging to justify the 3 years and countless dollars they wasted chasing the flimsy allegations of a convicted liar with a stated vendetta.

As soon as I saw all that verbiage about getting "creative" in order to find new ways to make cases against member institutions I knew there was going to be problems. Getting "creative" is a euphemism for being a scumbag piece of **** when it comes to investigative organizations. They don't need to get "creative"; they need to see exactly what is there and be forthright about it. Save the creativity for the artists of the world. That's not the ncaa's job.

Correct.

The sad part is if the NCAA wanted to protect themselves for the long-run, they would be best with

1. Firing the incompetent,

2. Admitting to terrible errors,

3. Fixing the investigative process with rules and standards (making sure everyone sees how they will conduct investigations in the future), and

4. Throwing out this case.

At some point you bring a cause of action or not. At some point you realize the investment (man-power, hours of investigation, resources etc.) doesn't provide a good gain. If the NCAA was smart they should have went to Shalala and offered a settlement a long time ago but they are too far to go back now. Shalala is also done with this mess.