RiDLer80
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So, I've been yearning for Canes football more lately now that football is so close. I've been watching Flash Forwards from last season, but not our wins; the ugly losses. I watched ND yesterday and Kansas State today. I decided to take some screen caps of our pre-snap defense vs KSU.
What I noticed a lot of the time was that we were out-numbered in the box a lot. I know Wildcat Defense brought this up in another thread how we'd handcuff ourselves in the running game when walking a LB out. Here are some examples of our defense being setup for failure IMO.
With a running quarterback like Klein was, you have to account for the QB. Here are some pre-snap looks of our pre-snap defense where we were out-numbered in the box and KSU ripped off some chunk plays because of it.
Here you can see we have 6 in the box vs their 7 blockers + the QB as a run threat. In this play our defense actually stretched this play out nicely, pursued well and held it to about a 3 yard gain. The rest of the plays resulted in some nice chunks. At least 5 yards a pop, often more.
Here you can see we have 4 DL and 1 LB in the box, vs their 5 OL to block our 5. This play resulted in a huge run by Klein.
Here we have 5 in the tackle box with two LBs walked outside of our DEs. KSU has 5 OL, a TE and a RB to block on this play. They get a hat on a hat and Klein bounces this outside for another big gain.
Here we have 6 in the box to defend the run vs their 5 OL + 1 TE. Again, KSU gets a hat on a hat and, the LB at the top (Armbrister) loses contain and the RB picks up about 9 yards.
Here we have 7 in the box and KSU has 7 blockers. Again, a hat on a hat for them and the RB isn't touched until he's about 8 yards down field.
Here we have 6 in the box with the safety walked up so we'll say 7. However, KSU has a tight formation (2 TEs) plus the RB as a blocker to give them 8 blockers for the run game. Here, Klein only picks up about 5 yards (lol only 5 yards), but you can see we were still outnumbered.
Here we have 7 vs their 7 in the box, and guess what? Hat on a hat for KSU, the RB isn't touched until he's tackled 9 yards down field.
I didn't do the second half because I didn't have the patience, but it was pretty obvious we were out-schemed by KSU. We can say we had pups on the field who shouldn't have been out there, we can say somebody has to beat their man and make a play, but what if we just don't have superior players? What if the opponent simply has better players on offense than we do on defense? Shouldn't our defensive coordinator scheme to put or players in a position to succeed. It seems to me going through these plays that we were doomed before we even stepped on the field.
Maybe if I'm feeling not lazy I'll go through another game, maybe one we weren't completely dominated in and see how our defense looks. I do know that last year I took a screen shot or two against UNC I believe where I noticed the same thing.
What I noticed a lot of the time was that we were out-numbered in the box a lot. I know Wildcat Defense brought this up in another thread how we'd handcuff ourselves in the running game when walking a LB out. Here are some examples of our defense being setup for failure IMO.
With a running quarterback like Klein was, you have to account for the QB. Here are some pre-snap looks of our pre-snap defense where we were out-numbered in the box and KSU ripped off some chunk plays because of it.
Here you can see we have 6 in the box vs their 7 blockers + the QB as a run threat. In this play our defense actually stretched this play out nicely, pursued well and held it to about a 3 yard gain. The rest of the plays resulted in some nice chunks. At least 5 yards a pop, often more.
Here you can see we have 4 DL and 1 LB in the box, vs their 5 OL to block our 5. This play resulted in a huge run by Klein.
Here we have 5 in the tackle box with two LBs walked outside of our DEs. KSU has 5 OL, a TE and a RB to block on this play. They get a hat on a hat and Klein bounces this outside for another big gain.
Here we have 6 in the box to defend the run vs their 5 OL + 1 TE. Again, KSU gets a hat on a hat and, the LB at the top (Armbrister) loses contain and the RB picks up about 9 yards.
Here we have 7 in the box and KSU has 7 blockers. Again, a hat on a hat for them and the RB isn't touched until he's about 8 yards down field.
Here we have 6 in the box with the safety walked up so we'll say 7. However, KSU has a tight formation (2 TEs) plus the RB as a blocker to give them 8 blockers for the run game. Here, Klein only picks up about 5 yards (lol only 5 yards), but you can see we were still outnumbered.
Here we have 7 vs their 7 in the box, and guess what? Hat on a hat for KSU, the RB isn't touched until he's tackled 9 yards down field.
I didn't do the second half because I didn't have the patience, but it was pretty obvious we were out-schemed by KSU. We can say we had pups on the field who shouldn't have been out there, we can say somebody has to beat their man and make a play, but what if we just don't have superior players? What if the opponent simply has better players on offense than we do on defense? Shouldn't our defensive coordinator scheme to put or players in a position to succeed. It seems to me going through these plays that we were doomed before we even stepped on the field.
Maybe if I'm feeling not lazy I'll go through another game, maybe one we weren't completely dominated in and see how our defense looks. I do know that last year I took a screen shot or two against UNC I believe where I noticed the same thing.
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