darby to FSU

I'll take the reference point further. FSU allowed 6.7 yards per play in Bowden's final season. That was 115th among 120. In Fisher's first season it jumped dramatically to 4.9, for 22nd in the country. And as I mentioned, in 2011 it was 4.16 for 3rd.

Defense is margin for error. Incredibly ignorant to dismiss FSU's foundation as no different than recent seasons.
 
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I'll take the reference point further. FSU allowed 6.7 yards per play in Bowden's final season. That was 115th among 120. In Fisher's first season it jumped dramatically to 4.9, for 22nd in the country. And as I mentioned, in 2011 it was 4.16 for 3rd.

Defense is margin for error. Incredibly ignorant to dismiss FSU's foundation as no different than recent seasons.

well go root for them.....bottomline is Fisch schooled them boys last year
 
I don't think people here are respecting what they are doing enough. This isn'y Booby and Mickey. This is an epic NC level elite SEC type class they landed.

I'm none too pleased.

Exactly. They may have had 4 losses this season but the defense took a dramatic step forward, 3rd in the nation in yards per play allowed, at 4.16, and not allowing 20 or more points in the final 8 games. Those are indeed SEC numbers. FSU late season looked very similar to a top SEC defense in terms of attacking the short passing game.

Very foolish to dismiss or downgrade them based on Bowden and Mickey's final seasons.

Good point, but look at their last 8 games.

Sat, Oct 15 @Duke W41-16 3-3 (1-2)
Sat, Oct 22 vsMaryland W41-16 4-3 (2-2)
Sat, Oct 29 vsNorth Carolina State W34-0 5-3 (3-2)
Thu, Nov 3 @Boston College W38-7 6-3 (4-2)
Sat, Nov 12 vsMiami (FL) W23-19 7-3 (5-2)
Sat, Nov 19 vsVirginia L14-13 7-4 (5-3)
Sat, Nov 26 @Florida W21-7 8-4 (5-3)
CHAMPS SPORTS BOWL
Thu, Dec 29 vsNotre Dame* W18-14 9-4 (5-3)
 
I don't think people here are respecting what they are doing enough. This isn'y Booby and Mickey. This is an epic NC level elite SEC type class they landed.

I'm none too pleased.

Exactly. They may have had 4 losses this season but the defense took a dramatic step forward, 3rd in the nation in yards per play allowed, at 4.16, and not allowing 20 or more points in the final 8 games. Those are indeed SEC numbers. FSU late season looked very similar to a top SEC defense in terms of attacking the short passing game.

Very foolish to dismiss or downgrade them based on Bowden and Mickey's final seasons.

Good point, but look at their last 8 games.

Sat, Oct 15 @Duke W41-16 3-3 (1-2)
Sat, Oct 22 vsMaryland W41-16 4-3 (2-2)
Sat, Oct 29 vsNorth Carolina State W34-0 5-3 (3-2)
Thu, Nov 3 @Boston College W38-7 6-3 (4-2)
Sat, Nov 12 vsMiami (FL) W23-19 7-3 (5-2)
Sat, Nov 19 vsVirginia L14-13 7-4 (5-3)
Sat, Nov 26 @Florida W21-7 8-4 (5-3)
CHAMPS SPORTS BOWL
Thu, Dec 29 vsNotre Dame* W18-14 9-4 (5-3)

Not exactly murderers row of offensive juggernauts the last 8 games there....
 
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only 6 kids from Florida and none from our territory

their class feels like a Coker special

I wouldn't be very pleased as an FSU fan of doing such a ****** job recruiting Florida. They already had Pender as a lock through family ties

They better win quick because they'll lose their national recruiting appeal while we continue to pillage South Florida.
 
You can bring up their defensive stats all you want, doesn't change the fact that Jimbo is a corch.
 
FSU has 19 kids in this class


5 DL
2 CB
2 LB
1 S
2 QB
2 OL
1 WR
1 TE
1 RB
1 K
1 P


19 Kids, 10 Defense, 7 Offense, 2 ST's

A quarter of the class/Half the D is DL
Where's the OL?


Star heavy, DL Heavy, unbalanced, has holes, Coker Special
 
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If Jimbo continues on his current course, he'll be at a 9-3-1 record before you know it.
 
FSU has 19 kids in this class


5 DL
2 CB
2 LB
1 S
2 QB
2 OL
1 WR
1 TE
1 RB
1 K
1 P


19 Kids, 10 Defense, 7 Offense, 2 ST's

A quarter of the class/Half the D is DL
Where's the OL?


Star heavy, DL Heavy, unbalanced, has holes, Coker Special

mostly out of towners too
 
D line could be insane and PJ williams is really good. They might have Bimbo coaching, but he is bringing in a top tiered Defensive class.
 
The talent that FSU has brought in the last 3 years on defense is **** good. Karlos Williams and PJ Williams as S is something we really could use. I hope one of our DB recruits becomes a star at S because its a position that can cover up a lot of holes in a D.
 
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Their offensive minds suck. From the OC to the OL coach. As long as those people are there, I'm not worried.
 
It sucks only because we have to hear their fanbase talk smack, but they seem to close with a bang every year, yet, when the lights come on, they find ways to lose 4 or 5 games. Sooner or later, Jimbo's gameday deficiencies whill be to glaring to ignore.

I like what Golden is building, and we're getting back to bringing in top shelf athletes. Bush, McCord, Duke, Tracy, O'Donnell, Lockhart, AJL, Waters, Dillard.....these guys have some juice.
 
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This is the same bomb from CT... if so.. please go back over there.. lol chicken little doesn't work on this site.
 
Stoops needs to get hired somewhere after this year

If he wants to be a college head coach, then I think he leaves if FSU puts in another solid year on defense. Mark is not getting any younger. He turns 45 this year.

A lot of folks at FSU think that scenario is very likely, if he has a defense as good or better than last year's. It would suck for FSU, but sometimes guys gotta move on and do their thing. I wish him luck if he does.
 
FSU has 19 kids in this class


5 DL
2 CB
2 LB
1 S
2 QB
2 OL
1 WR
1 TE
1 RB
1 K
1 P


19 Kids, 10 Defense, 7 Offense, 2 ST's

A quarter of the class/Half the D is DL
Where's the OL?


Star heavy, DL Heavy, unbalanced, has holes, Coker Special

mostly out of towners too

lmao @ that position breakdown

they didn't get **** to fill holes

You have said some epically stupid **** today.

I know you're a cane, but wow.
 
FSU has 19 kids in this class


5 DL
2 CB
2 LB
1 S
2 QB
2 OL
1 WR
1 TE
1 RB
1 K
1 P


19 Kids, 10 Defense, 7 Offense, 2 ST's

A quarter of the class/Half the D is DL
Where's the OL?


Star heavy, DL Heavy, unbalanced, has holes, Coker Special

mostly out of towners too

That's the crazy thing. How does a FL school load up a class with that many out of state recruits?
 
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