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Damien Martinez: I came to Miami to prove that I'm the best

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ThomasM said:
It's actually quite pathetic, really.

For example. Miami's team record for TDs in a season is 31. Thirty, freaking one. That would have ranked 20th last season alone. Our all time best would have been tied for 20th place for ONE year. I can only imagine how low it is if compared to every other school's all time best. I'm guessing out of the top 100.

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Just for a little perspective... When Rosier set the UM record, he still finished 22nd that year in TDs. Uggg.... Pathetic. Check out that link and change the year. Look at some of those numbers and ask yourself, "Why the **** can't a team like Miami, who should have no problem getting speed and scoring points, look so pathetic when it comes to scoring points?"
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Just a reminder - there are ways to score points other than throwing td passes.

Despite our pathetic TD pass record, we managed to finish top 4 in the nation in scoring for 3 straight years... in this century (very early on in this century, I'll grant you that). The game has changed since then, sure, but you don't have to be Mike Leach to score a ton of points.
 
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ThomasM said:
Since 2006, as far back as that list goes, 103 teams have had a player score 32 TDs or more. We haven't in **** near 100 years. We are so far behind the times it's scary.
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Cause we get one **** player to do it all most of the time and we soft as **** up front. The worst evals on OL and DL I don’t care what the rankings say. ACC teams would kill us up front with better evals. We were soft like baby ****, but they wearing cane uniforms and had high rankings so I guess that’s good enough. There are first round draft picks that should never be picked in the first round (maybe 7th round) and that happens with HS rankings as well. That all falls on the coaches they picked them and watched the film and offered them.
 
ThomasM said:
Since 2006, as far back as that list goes, 103 teams have had a player score 32 TDs or more. We haven't in **** near 100 years. We are so far behind the times it's scary.
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@ThomasM in here SPITTIN.. Been saying for yearsssss it makes no sense how the whole spread revolution was happening and we just sat on sidelines for basically 20 years and did nothing.. like our fans don't even know what lighting the scoreboard and a true offense is supposed to look like..

I still remember teams scrub teams making offense look easy and fans on the boards still talking about quadtrine Hill in the flats for 4 yard gain as a trick play :ibis-roflmao-sm3: good times :snoopfacepalm: Ward please save us
 
Ajcane8 said:
Just a reminder - there are ways to score points other than throwing td passes.

Despite our pathetic TD pass record, we managed to finish top 4 in the nation in scoring for 3 straight years... in this century (very early on in this century, I'll grant you that). The game has changed since then, sure, but you don't have to be Mike Leach to score a ton of points.
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This is a bad take (no offense to you; it's just a disagreement). You're saying we had good offenses more than twenty years ago?

I think that's @ThomasM 's whole point. The game is entirely different today than the last time we had a top offense in 2001 and 2002.

The kids we have recruited for the past decade or more would never have seen or were too young to remember when Miami had a top-tier offense. That is embarrassing.
 
JamesQuall said:
This is a bad take (no offense to you; it's just a disagreement). You're saying we had good offenses more than twenty years ago?

I think that's @ThomasM 's whole point. The game is entirely different today than the last time we had a top offense in 2001 and 2002.

The kids we have recruited for the past decade or more would never have seen or were too young to remember when Miami had a top-tier offense. That is embarrassing.
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No offense taken, at all. Just curious what you disagree with. All I said is there are more ways to score than TD pass (obvious) and that you don't have to be Mike Leach to score a ton of points (which, again, is pretty obvious - there were more "balanced" offenses in the top 25 scoring teams than "wide open, throw 40x a game...").

I mean, we did have a good offense twenty years ago (which sort of negates the "never"). I get it, though, it's been a while.

And, I did note that the game has changed. Still, I won't be complaining if we have a pathetic output of 30 TD passes... 25 TD runs, 5 from the D and a few more from specials - as opposed to 40 passing and 10 rushing.
 
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If you have a High Speed Offense....your *** has to have a Good to Great Defense. In Ericksons case, he had a High Prized offense (89-92) and a Defense that was even better. Score alot of points (especially quickly) = Your Defense on the field alot.
 
Ajcane8 said:
Just a reminder - there are ways to score points other than throwing td passes.

Despite our pathetic TD pass record, we managed to finish top 4 in the nation in scoring for 3 straight years... in this century (very early on in this century, I'll grant you that). The game has changed since then, sure, but you don't have to be Mike Leach to score a ton of points.
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Seems to me, with 103 teams having better output from their QB positions, we didn't really need Mike Leach to be ahead of at least 40 or 50 of them, no?

As for what we did 20+ years ago... That was a supremely talented team, whose D and special teams put the O in position to score a bunch. Our starters were often out early, so they didn't pad stats. I don't think anyone will see a team like that again, with the talent advantage that great. So, it's time to adapt.
 
SWFLHurricane said:
If you have a High Speed Offense....your *** has to have a Good to Great Defense. In Ericksons case, he had a High Prized offense (89-92) and a Defense that was even better. Score alot of points (especially quickly) = Your Defense on the field alot.
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You can also say if you score a lot of points, you force the other team to do so as well. You also get to let your D pin their ears back a lot more when you are playing with a lead.
 
Ajcane8 said:
No offense taken, at all. Just curious what you disagree with. All I said is there are more ways to score than TD pass (obvious) and that you don't have to be Mike Leach to score a ton of points (which, again, is pretty obvious - there were more "balanced" offenses in the top 25 scoring teams than "wide open, throw 40x a game...").

I mean, we did have a good offense twenty years ago (which sort of negates the "never"). I get it, though, it's been a while.

And, I did note that the game has changed. Still, I won't be complaining if we have a pathetic output of 30 TD passes... 25 TD runs, 5 from the D and a few more from specials - as opposed to 40 passing and 10 rushing.
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Yes it is obvious that there are multiple ways to score points which I hope we do on top of having a great offense this year.

The reason I disagree with your post (at least my assumption of it) is because it assumes more passes and less running. Why? 40 passing TDs and 10 TDs rushing is a mediocre, pass heavy offense. That offense would only average ~29 points per game during the regular season. That is pathetic.

The point being, if you have a top tier offense you score a lot more TDs (obviously). This will naturally lead to more passing TDs without being a pass only offense.

Scoring 35+ (I'm greedy I want closer to 40) points a game is not unrealistic in modern offenses. Having a more efficient passing game should help the run game as well. There's no reason we shouldn't be able to have 35+ passing TDs and 25+ rushing TDs.

Cam Ward is the best QB we have had since we had those top offenses 20+ years ago. Martinez should be a great back. We have plenty of talent and returning production at WR. Our O-line should be talented enough to handle our schedule.

There are no excuses. These records should fall since it's not a very high bar in the first place.
 
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JamesQuall said:
Yes it is obvious that there are multiple ways to score points which I hope we do on top of having a great offense this year.

The reason I disagree with your post (at least my assumption of it) is because it assumes more passes and less running. Why? 40 passing TDs and 10 TDs rushing is a mediocre, pass heavy offense. That offense would only average ~29 points per game during the regular season. That is pathetic.

The point being, if you have a top tier offense you score a lot more TDs (obviously). This will naturally lead to more passing TDs without being a pass only offense.

Scoring 35+ (I'm greedy I want closer to 40) points a game is not unrealistic in modern offenses. Having a more efficient passing game should help the run game as well. There's no reason we shouldn't be able to have 35+ passing TDs and 25+ rushing TDs.

Cam Ward is the best QB we have had since we had those top offenses 20+ years ago. Martinez should be a great back. We have plenty of talent and returning production at WR. Our O-line should be talented enough to handle our schedule.

There are no excuses. These records should fall since it's not a very high bar in the first place.
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Scoring is important - not how you score. I gather that QPs original comment was a knock on "caveman ball" - implying that a wide-open offense is needed in order to have success. I disagree. Teams that throw the ball 40+ times per game, for the most part, suck. 5 of the 8 QBs that had over 30 TDs last year had over 460 attempts. IE - 35+ attempts per game. Do we get there? I don't think so, but, again, I don't think that precludes you from having a good team.

Do I want Ward to have 40 TD passes? Yes. 1,000x. Does it matter if he doesn't reach 32? No. Not one bit. 31 TD passes was good for 8th in the country last year. Which is why I disagreed with the original post stating that the only way we will have a good season is if Ward breaks the TD record. To your point though, if we play at least 14 games (and I hope we do), I would probably bet that he gets to 35.

Where there is an argument to be had re: offensive philosophy is running more plays; be they passes or runs. More plays beget more yards, more yards beget more points. That boils down to efficiency, though. Efficiency is paramount on offense. Do what you do and do it well. Because if you are fast and inefficient you’re really ****ed.

Besides - scoring 40+ ppg was not unrealistic for ancient offenses either, as evidenced by... never mind.
 
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was looking forward to listening to this podcast and to be honest, CIS needs to consider hiring someone with training and experience in interviewing people. there was so much information that i was looking for that was never solicited by the interviewer.

when someone uses "talk about x" rather than properly phrase a question in an interview, you know he's over his head. susan miller did that all of that time and that was one example of poor jounalism.

i wanted to know his thoughts on:
1. why he chose oregon state and who recruited him out of HS.
2. the process of his recruitment at miami.
3. mario cristobal.
4. cam ward.
5. his thoughts on the Coach Merritt.
6. his ethnic origin.

and many other topics. after the third "talk about" I shut it down. in addition, the interviewer shared various opinions which kind of negated any worthwhile answer.

CIS has a great thing going and DMoney's new personal investment of time in the site and brand are paying off. however, it's time to consider bringing in someone trained in the area, not using a friend of the site.

i hope no one is offended at these truths.
 
Ajcane8 said:
No offense taken, at all. Just curious what you disagree with. All I said is there are more ways to score than TD pass (obvious) and that you don't have to be Mike Leach to score a ton of points (which, again, is pretty obvious - there were more "balanced" offenses in the top 25 scoring teams than "wide open, throw 40x a game...").

I mean, we did have a good offense twenty years ago (which sort of negates the "never"). I get it, though, it's been a while.

And, I did note that the game has changed. Still, I won't be complaining if we have a pathetic output of 30 TD passes... 25 TD runs, 5 from the D and a few more from specials - as opposed to 40 passing and 10 rushing.
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We still gotta dress it up for recruits. I promise that was a driving factor in Jeremiah choosing the TAINTED SCHOOL.
 
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I want to see how he transitions to our offense, or do we add on to what we do

At oregon st it was alot of under center runs and alot of outside zone. We were a shotgun/pistol run team with alot of inside zone and duo... Just something to monitor
 
E1k said:
I want to see how he transitions to our offense, or do we add on to what we do

At oregon st it was alot of under center runs and alot of outside zone. We were a shotgun/pistol run team with alot of inside zone and duo... Just something to monitor
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Would like to see us add outside zone.. Atleast I can dream..
 
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