Courier-Journal: Petrino a Master Counterpuncher

[plantcity3]

Omg Fuuuuck Petrino. I keep seeing everyone praise him. I don't care if he was Bear Bryant, he is our opponent this week. He gets no love from me.

Porsters keep taking about how our D better be ready and all this other **** ****. Petrino and Louisville better be ready for Duke to shove his palm down their throats.

I agree with the F- Petrino...but caution is fair.

While we had no Duke of course, we were decimated last year by the same squad with a defensive guru at the helm. Pretty fair to be concerned when they bring back a notoriously stellar offensive coach. We get pressure on their new QB, much like they plan to do to ours...and stop the run, we should be good.

UM

Likewise, I agree that caution is fair, but maybe I have a player's mentality. What they did last year is irrelevant. If Louisville comes into this game expecting the same result just because it happened last year, they will be in for a rude awakening. Different year, different game, different players in key spots.

Some are almost completely dismissing the product we are putting on the field while praising Petrino. Regardless of what Petrino call, his players have to still perform on the field.

Anyone, anytime, anywhere....

 

[the storm]

LOL LOL LOL

He really counter-punched his way out of that *** scandal.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

You're going to see 475 shallow crosses which in the past have been the death of our defense. Petrino's offense is efficient and you have to think he's watering at the mouth from the tape he's seen of our schematical approach from prior years.

If there was ever a moment for Onfrio to have an epiphany and switch up from that passive cover 3....it's this game. If you don't mix it up against this cat he'll tear us apart, regardless of who the QB is.

I doubt it. That used to work easily when we were in underneath man coverage. Cover 3 would actually work decently well against some of those crossing routes, as we'd have 4 (or even 5 if we rush 3 guys) underneath defenders. Where I'm scared for this game is up the seams, against the run from the spread formation and flooded zones.

Again, I expect us to be ok (relatively speaking) for the better part of the 1st half. It's what happens when we run out of preconceived attacks that I am concerned about. Unless, of course, we've changed our style of play/approach.

In theory...it should. However this version of the cover 3 that Onfrio employs completely gives up pockets in the middle of the field. Wake Forest drove us crazy on some of those long drives with shallow crosses, seam routes, and passes out into the flat. Part of the problem is THE WAY Onfrio deploys the cover 3...when you're asking 260 pound DE''s to backpeddle into coverage and attempt to cover jitterbug slot receivers running 5 yard out patterns....well we've already seen how that movie ends.

Petrino's offenses have always had a heavy dose of shallow crosses...it's an offense I personally love and would have loved to have seen deployed here with the athletes we have. Let's see if the kids run the zone better or if the scheme really is FUBAR.

 

[TreOFive]

Maybe we can hope that Petrino goes on a motorcycle ride with his mistress this week

 

[Canemang]

todd grantham is poo.

Dorito makes Grantham look like **** Lebeau

 

[Dynasty]

You're going to see 475 shallow crosses which in the past have been the death of our defense. Petrino's offense is efficient and you have to think he's watering at the mouth from the tape he's seen of our schematical approach from prior years.

If there was ever a moment for Onfrio to have an epiphany and switch up from that passive cover 3....it's this game. If you don't mix it up against this cat he'll tear us apart, regardless of who the QB is.

I doubt it. That used to work easily when we were in underneath man coverage. Cover 3 would actually work decently well against some of those crossing routes, as we'd have 4 (or even 5 if we rush 3 guys) underneath defenders. Where I'm scared for this game is up the seams, against the run from the spread formation and flooded zones.

Again, I expect us to be ok (relatively speaking) for the better part of the 1st half. It's what happens when we run out of preconceived attacks that I am concerned about. Unless, of course, we've changed our style of play/approach.

In theory...it should. However this version of the cover 3 that Onfrio employs completely gives up pockets in the middle of the field. Wake Forest drove us crazy on some of those long drives with shallow crosses, seam routes, and passes out into the flat. Part of the problem is THE WAY Onfrio deploys the cover 3...when you're asking 260 pound DE''s to backpeddle into coverage and attempt to cover jitterbug slot receivers running 5 yard out patterns....well we've already seen how that movie ends.

Petrino's offenses have always had a heavy dose of shallow crosses...it's an offense I personally love and would have loved to have seen deployed here with the athletes we have. Let's see if the kids run the zone better or if the scheme really is FUBAR.

This.

Route recognition is a major problem. First, we don't do a very good job of locating and redirecting routes in our underneath coverages. That alone would help tremendously.

 

[Crystal Ball]

This game gon be a shootout. We gonna give up yards. A ****** lot of em.....

 

[WhatTheHell]

IMO we will see a much more aggressive defense from Dno. He is extremely intelligent, maybe too much so for the true freshman we've had to depend on and the experienced players we had to use that wouldn't make it passed scout team anywhere else. I believe he had no choice but to run that BS damage control defense the past 3 yrs. Now insert a much more experienced and developed AQM, McCord, Perryman, Grace, Thomas, Jackson, Carter, Burns, Elder, Howard, Gunter, Owens, Dallas, Antonio, Kirby, Hertelou, Jenkins and Whyche in place of Cornelius, Gaines, Highsmith, Rodgers, Robinson, Renfrow, Porter....Dno has to be salivating at the markedly improved experience, speed and physicality. This year's defense should be completely different or Dno MUST go!

Well, him and Golden have run this defense for 12 seasons. So expect to see the "bs damage control defense" because that's their philosophy, regardless of personnel.

They live in the realm of "yards don't matter." We'll see the same zone-heavy 3-4 scheme that reads and reacts.

 

[LuCane]

You're going to see 475 shallow crosses which in the past have been the death of our defense. Petrino's offense is efficient and you have to think he's watering at the mouth from the tape he's seen of our schematical approach from prior years.

If there was ever a moment for Onfrio to have an epiphany and switch up from that passive cover 3....it's this game. If you don't mix it up against this cat he'll tear us apart, regardless of who the QB is.

I doubt it. That used to work easily when we were in underneath man coverage. Cover 3 would actually work decently well against some of those crossing routes, as we'd have 4 (or even 5 if we rush 3 guys) underneath defenders. Where I'm scared for this game is up the seams, against the run from the spread formation and flooded zones.

Again, I expect us to be ok (relatively speaking) for the better part of the 1st half. It's what happens when we run out of preconceived attacks that I am concerned about. Unless, of course, we've changed our style of play/approach.

In theory...it should. However this version of the cover 3 that Onfrio employs completely gives up pockets in the middle of the field. Wake Forest drove us crazy on some of those long drives with shallow crosses, seam routes, and passes out into the flat. Part of the problem is THE WAY Onfrio deploys the cover 3...when you're asking 260 pound DE''s to backpeddle into coverage and attempt to cover jitterbug slot receivers running 5 yard out patterns....well we've already seen how that movie ends.

Petrino's offenses have always had a heavy dose of shallow crosses...it's an offense I personally love and would have loved to have seen deployed here with the athletes we have. Let's see if the kids run the zone better or if the scheme really is FUBAR.

This.

Route recognition is a major problem. First, we don't do a very good job of locating and redirecting routes in our underneath coverages. That alone would help tremendously.

Just looked through some notes from the Wake Forest game. We got worked out of their spread. Not so much with the crossing routes, but with a lot of PA and misdirection. The Campanaro (or whatever the **** his name is, #3) TD was an atrocious read by Deon Bush on a shoddy corner route with a FB layered in the flat. We got hit with a long pass down the sideline. We also got hit with what looked like a crossing route, but was really a TERRIBLE zone blitz with Luther Robinson lost in the middle of the field. We also got beat with a RB sneaking out of the backfield.

My God. We struggled our asses off in this game. Against Wake Forest. I hate myself and Jedi for just reviewing that.

As for Dynasty's problem, yes. Route recognition and passing between underneath defenders is terrible. Part of that is because those guys are flat-footed and we have not been forcing the QB into anything - a direction, a decision, nada. But, not gonna get into this **** again.

 

[FinsFishandCaneS]

todd grantham is poo.

Dorito makes Grantham look like **** Lebeau

Lolz

 

[D.L.I.N.K.D.A.GR8]

You're going to see 475 shallow crosses which in the past have been the death of our defense. Petrino's offense is efficient and you have to think he's watering at the mouth from the tape he's seen of our schematical approach from prior years.

If there was ever a moment for Onfrio to have an epiphany and switch up from that passive cover 3....it's this game. If you don't mix it up against this cat he'll tear us apart, regardless of who the QB is.

I doubt it. That used to work easily when we were in underneath man coverage. Cover 3 would actually work decently well against some of those crossing routes, as we'd have 4 (or even 5 if we rush 3 guys) underneath defenders. Where I'm scared for this game is up the seams, against the run from the spread formation and flooded zones.

Again, I expect us to be ok (relatively speaking) for the better part of the 1st half. It's what happens when we run out of preconceived attacks that I am concerned about. Unless, of course, we've changed our style of play/approach.

In theory...it should. However this version of the cover 3 that Onfrio employs completely gives up pockets in the middle of the field. Wake Forest drove us crazy on some of those long drives with shallow crosses, seam routes, and passes out into the flat. Part of the problem is THE WAY Onfrio deploys the cover 3...when you're asking 260 pound DE''s to backpeddle into coverage and attempt to cover jitterbug slot receivers running 5 yard out patterns....well we've already seen how that movie ends.

Petrino's offenses have always had a heavy dose of shallow crosses...it's an offense I personally love and would have loved to have seen deployed here with the athletes we have. Let's see if the kids run the zone better or if the scheme really is FUBAR.

This.

Route recognition is a major problem. First, we don't do a very good job of locating and redirecting routes in our underneath coverages. That alone would help tremendously.

Just looked through some notes from the Wake Forest game. We got worked out of their spread. Not so much with the crossing routes, but with a lot of PA and misdirection. The Campanaro (or whatever the **** his name is, #3) TD was an atrocious read by Deon Bush on a shoddy corner route with a FB layered in the flat. We got hit with a long pass down the sideline. We also got hit with what looked like a crossing route, but was really a TERRIBLE zone blitz with Luther Robinson lost in the middle of the field. We also got beat with a RB sneaking out of the backfield.

My God. We struggled our asses off in this game. Against Wake Forest. I hate myself and Jedi for just reviewing that.

As for Dynasty's problem, yes. Route recognition and passing between underneath defenders is terrible. Part of that is because those guys are flat-footed and we have not been forcing the QB into anything - a direction, a decision, nada. But, not gonna get into this **** again.

That made me chuckle a little bit. I felt your pain brother.

 

[obcanes]

Nice article on how to defend petrino's offense.
http://kentuckysportsradio.com/1/crossing-routes-mark-stoops-and-bobby-petrino/

So how do you stop an offense that has given so many fits? From my observations, the best way to slow this kind of passing attack is with pressure from the line. In the above video, LSU slowed Petrino’s passing game by applying immense pressure to the quarterback. While not an example of a shallow cross, at 1:50:30 in the above video, LSU’s Sam Montgomery charged right through the middle of Arkansas’ pass protection and took down Tyler Wilson before he could make the throw. Of course, that type of pressure can typically only be reproduced at schools with elite talent on the line. Perhaps the most feasible way to defend against this type of cross would be placing a linebacker in Zone 4 as a spy. That doesn’t take as much talent and can be easily replicated.

Petrino’s offense has taken many powerful teams down in the past and will likely take more down in the future, but luckily for Kentucky, Stoops has ample time to prepare for something which will inevitably be run. I haven’t watched enough NC State games to know if the shallow cross is a staple in their offense, but I’d venture to guess it’s not because it was run minimally in the first half against Florida State. It wasn’t until the second half after adjustments were made that NC State ran the shallow cross frequently. There will be numerous questions to ponder for the season’s first game. Which coach will learn their personnel better in the short time they’ve known each other? Will Za’Darius Smith and his teammates on the line be able to pressure Western’s quarterback? Will Petrino have enough time to implement his offense? These questions will all be important for the season opener, but to me, one question stands above them all. Who wins the battle of the shallow cross?

 

[rudebuddha]

Just get it in your head now.. We gonna give up yards.. a ton of yards.

Unless AG and MD changed things that we don't currently know about.

I'm sure they changed quite a few things you don't know about.

 

[Sandman211]

I hope Tyriq is able to get loose on their QB a time or two. AQM a time or two as well.