Could Have Been 'Canes: Class of 2008

[Peter Ariz]

t.y. hilton was THE ONLY OPTION for fiu...@ Miami he would be fighting to get in the rotation....

it all goes to "fit" and scheme to me...

Travis Benjamin would put up similar or better numbers than T.Y. did had he played at FIU.

Out of this group the only ones that hurt or are true misses to me are:
Patrick Jonson ( we had him as a commit)..

and Corey Liuget.

the rest not so much.

Janoris Jenkins was a pretty good player..but we were shooting for the PJ and Brandon Harris coup.

Lavonte David developed in college..and besides we already had him in (sean spence)...

Robert Sands was a scheme player as a rover type....and Travis Howard is a bum imo.

I completely disagree with the statement about Hilton fighting for playing time here... He is better than every single one of the receivers taken in that 08 Class, even Benjamin

 

[FreePawn]

The kid we mourned the most? Might have been Matt Patchan.

 

[hurricane04]

Hilton hasnt looked so great in the pros up to this point. A few Miami receivers doing a bit better so far.

 

[LexCane55]

Hilton wouldnt have looked like that if he came to Miami. The same goes for a lot of those kids. We have just been so bad in developing and using players that if everyone of those kids would have been Hurricanes I dont know if it makes much of a difference(Peterson shines anywhere). For example, if David comes here I highly doubt he has a better career than Sean Spence

 

[Cityboy4life82]

t.y. hilton was THE ONLY OPTION for fiu...@ Miami he would be fighting to get in the rotation....

it all goes to "fit" and scheme to me...

Travis Benjamin would put up similar or better numbers than T.Y. did had he played at FIU.

Out of this group the only ones that hurt or are true misses to me are:
Patrick Jonson ( we had him as a commit)..

and Corey Liuget.

the rest not so much.

Janoris Jenkins was a pretty good player..but we were shooting for the PJ and Brandon Harris coup.

Lavonte David developed in college..and besides we already had him in (sean spence)...

Robert Sands was a scheme player as a rover type....and Travis Howard is a bum imo.

I completely disagree with the statement about Hilton fighting for playing time here... He is better than every single one of the receivers taken in that 08 Class, even Benjamin

TY Hilton was the odd man out and rightfully so.

Our wide outs would have looked like stars if they played for FIU also. Travis Benjamin would have put up better numbers.

 

[Peter Ariz]

t.y. hilton was THE ONLY OPTION for fiu...@ Miami he would be fighting to get in the rotation....

it all goes to "fit" and scheme to me...

Travis Benjamin would put up similar or better numbers than T.Y. did had he played at FIU.

Out of this group the only ones that hurt or are true misses to me are:
Patrick Jonson ( we had him as a commit)..

and Corey Liuget.

the rest not so much.

Janoris Jenkins was a pretty good player..but we were shooting for the PJ and Brandon Harris coup.

Lavonte David developed in college..and besides we already had him in (sean spence)...

Robert Sands was a scheme player as a rover type....and Travis Howard is a bum imo.

I completely disagree with the statement about Hilton fighting for playing time here... He is better than every single one of the receivers taken in that 08 Class, even Benjamin

TY Hilton was the odd man out and rightfully so.

Our wide outs would have looked like stars if they played for FIU also. Travis Benjamin would have put up better numbers.

I disagree that Benjamin would have put up better numbers

And I understand what you guys are saying about everything looking better in hindsight, but that is the point of this feature: to show you guys that the recruiting game isn't an exact science.

 

[gacericardo]

Janoris was a "pretty good" player? That guy would have been the best player on our team for at least a couple years. Or at least number 2 to Spence

 

[Peter Ariz]

Janoris was a "pretty good" player? That guy would have been the best player on our team for at least a couple years. Or at least number 2 to Spence

Yea Janoris was a lockdown corner. The dude was a high 2nd round pick despite all the off-field stuff. He would have gone top 15 if not for that

 

[BigCaneAl]

This. We were never getting Janoris Jenkins, kid was ALL Gator. There wasn't one person on this board clamoring for Lavonte David, not one. Everybody missed on him. I remember Sands being talked about going into his Senior year but he was generally seen as too big and stiff to play safety for Miami. That was probably a miss. Johnson and Liuget are unforgivable. They should have both been Canes.

I love threads like this. But I have to confess that had those kids that went elsewhere come to Miami, they likely would have had less than stellar careers. I have zero confidence in thinking Randy could have used any of those kids well. If we had gotten PJ and JJ, my guess is that they along with BHarris would have been solid. But without the trio I think they underperform.

A lot of it to is knowing how to utilize these guys. FIU knew that They had to get Hilton the ball in various ways. WVU knew that Sands wasn't the best cover safety, but he had strengths that could be used in their schemes.

t.y. hilton was THE ONLY OPTION for fiu...@ Miami he would be fighting to get in the rotation....

it all goes to "fit" and scheme to me...

Travis Benjamin would put up similar or better numbers than T.Y. did had he played at FIU.

Out of this group the only ones that hurt or are true misses to me are:
Patrick Jonson ( we had him as a commit)..

and Corey Liuget.

the rest not so much.

Janoris Jenkins was a pretty good player..but we were shooting for the PJ and Brandon Harris coup.

Lavonte David developed in college..and besides we already had him in (sean spence)...

Robert Sands was a scheme player as a rover type....and Travis Howard is a bum imo.

While it would have been great to get Liguet, not sure how it's a miss. If I remember correctly we went full court press on him, and he wanted to leave Miami. I don't think there was much more the staff could have done in that case.

 

[BisCane]

This. We were never getting Janoris Jenkins, kid was ALL Gator. There wasn't one person on this board clamoring for Lavonte David, not one. Everybody missed on him. I remember Sands being talked about going into his Senior year but he was generally seen as too big and stiff to play safety for Miami. That was probably a miss. Johnson and Liuget are unforgivable. They should have both been Canes.

I love threads like this. But I have to confess that had those kids that went elsewhere come to Miami, they likely would have had less than stellar careers. I have zero confidence in thinking Randy could have used any of those kids well. If we had gotten PJ and JJ, my guess is that they along with BHarris would have been solid. But without the trio I think they underperform.

A lot of it to is knowing how to utilize these guys. FIU knew that They had to get Hilton the ball in various ways. WVU knew that Sands wasn't the best cover safety, but he had strengths that could be used in their schemes.

t.y. hilton was THE ONLY OPTION for fiu...@ Miami he would be fighting to get in the rotation....

it all goes to "fit" and scheme to me...

Travis Benjamin would put up similar or better numbers than T.Y. did had he played at FIU.

Out of this group the only ones that hurt or are true misses to me are:
Patrick Jonson ( we had him as a commit)..

and Corey Liuget.

the rest not so much.

Janoris Jenkins was a pretty good player..but we were shooting for the PJ and Brandon Harris coup.

Lavonte David developed in college..and besides we already had him in (sean spence)...

Robert Sands was a scheme player as a rover type....and Travis Howard is a bum imo.

While it would have been great to get Liguet, not sure how it's a miss. If I remember correctly we went full court press on him, and he wanted to leave Miami. I don't think there was much more the staff could have done in that case.

HIs mom was **** bent on getting him out of here, word was she wanted him away from tough crowds he was running with. And Zook still had a job and everyone remembers the recruiter he was. We were never getting Luiget.

How can you say that Benjamin or even Aldarius wouldn't have put up big numbers against that Sun BElt competition?

And why u deleting my post making fun of this thread?

 

[Plzwork4]

Liuget's mom wanted him out. He was all about Miami. She was worried about the gangs that he was mixed up in. As for Janoris...he wasn't all Gator. I remember that Shannon brought in all the top recruits out of the area at the end of their junior seasons for a meeting. Janoris went into Shannon's office wanting an offer...b/c he had already offered B Harris, PJ, and the kid from Tally-Lincoln (TJ Bryant I think). Shannon was slowplaying him b/c he wanted the other 3 and from that point on he was all Gator.

 

[BigPoopaCane]

ILL TAKE 3 YEARS OF SPENCE OVER 2 YEARS OF DAVID

 

[AlexCane]

t.y. hilton was THE ONLY OPTION for fiu...@ Miami he would be fighting to get in the rotation....

it all goes to "fit" and scheme to me...

Travis Benjamin would put up similar or better numbers than T.Y. did had he played at FIU.

Out of this group the only ones that hurt or are true misses to me are:
Patrick Jonson ( we had him as a commit)..

and Corey Liuget.

the rest not so much.

Janoris Jenkins was a pretty good player..but we were shooting for the PJ and Brandon Harris coup.

Lavonte David developed in college..and besides we already had him in (sean spence)...

Robert Sands was a scheme player as a rover type....and Travis Howard is a bum imo.

I completely disagree with the statement about Hilton fighting for playing time here... He is better than every single one of the receivers taken in that 08 Class, even Benjamin

TY Hilton was the odd man out and rightfully so.

Our wide outs would have looked like stars if they played for FIU also. Travis Benjamin would have put up better numbers.

I disagree that Benjamin would have put up better numbers

And I understand what you guys are saying about everything looking better in hindsight, but that is the point of this feature: to show you guys that the recruiting game isn't an exact science.

Sadly, Cristobal > Shannon.

Had Ty come here, he would have put up poor to modest numbers.

Had Benjamin, Collier, Johnson, etc., gone to FIU, they would have put up better numbers or had better careers.

What's comical to me is that as much fun as we make of these high-school aged kids and their decision-making, each of these kids made the right decision not coming here to play for Shannon. Perhaps these kids are a little smarter than we give them credit for.

 

[CanesAreAble]

Having these guys wouldn't have helped us overcome Shannon's coaching imo. Our conditioning and attitude would've still sucked.

This.

Levonte David is a prime example. The 8th best guy off the team becomes a stud somewhere else.

LULZ

 

[Madbugger]

I love threads like this. But I have to confess that had those kids that went elsewhere come to Miami, they likely would have had less than stellar careers. I have zero confidence in thinking Randy could have used any of those kids well. If we had gotten PJ and JJ, my guess is that they along with BHarris would have been solid. But without the trio I think they underperform.

A lot of it to is knowing how to utilize these guys. FIU knew that They had to get Hilton the ball in various ways. WVU knew that Sands wasn't the best cover safety, but he had strengths that could be used in their schemes.

t.y. hilton was THE ONLY OPTION for fiu...@ Miami he would be fighting to get in the rotation....

it all goes to "fit" and scheme to me...

Travis Benjamin would put up similar or better numbers than T.Y. did had he played at FIU.

Out of this group the only ones that hurt or are true misses to me are:
Patrick Jonson ( we had him as a commit)..

and Corey Liuget.

the rest not so much.

Janoris Jenkins was a pretty good player..but we were shooting for the PJ and Brandon Harris coup.

Lavonte David developed in college..and besides we already had him in (sean spence)...

Robert Sands was a scheme player as a rover type....and Travis Howard is a bum imo.

IIRC, we were also chasing the Tally kid that went to USC.

 

[Peter Ariz]

I love threads like this. But I have to confess that had those kids that went elsewhere come to Miami, they likely would have had less than stellar careers. I have zero confidence in thinking Randy could have used any of those kids well. If we had gotten PJ and JJ, my guess is that they along with BHarris would have been solid. But without the trio I think they underperform.

A lot of it to is knowing how to utilize these guys. FIU knew that They had to get Hilton the ball in various ways. WVU knew that Sands wasn't the best cover safety, but he had strengths that could be used in their schemes.

t.y. hilton was THE ONLY OPTION for fiu...@ Miami he would be fighting to get in the rotation....

it all goes to "fit" and scheme to me...

Travis Benjamin would put up similar or better numbers than T.Y. did had he played at FIU.

Out of this group the only ones that hurt or are true misses to me are:
Patrick Jonson ( we had him as a commit)..

and Corey Liuget.

the rest not so much.

Janoris Jenkins was a pretty good player..but we were shooting for the PJ and Brandon Harris coup.

Lavonte David developed in college..and besides we already had him in (sean spence)...

Robert Sands was a scheme player as a rover type....and Travis Howard is a bum imo.

IIRC, we were also chasing the Tally kid that went to USC.

TJ Bryant

 

[cowboycane]

Wasn't the story at the time that we told Janoris we were holding off on offering any corners until after the spring evaluation period, then he heard we had offered Harris and Howard and got ****ed and flew the coup?

Liuget and Peterson obviously hurt the most but this recruiting isn't done in a vacuum, always remember that outside circumstances DO come in to play.

 

[Dan E. Dangerously]

The kid we mourned the most? Might have been Matt Patchan.

I was so butt hurt about Patchan going to UiF. Now...I don't think he's even a real person. That's how irrelevant he is.

 

[SigEp77]

Would TY even have qualified at Miami? I seem to remember that grades were of concern with him.

 

[gogeta4]

Janoris was a "pretty good" player? That guy would have been the best player on our team for at least a couple years. Or at least number 2 to Spence

Yea Janoris was a lockdown corner. The dude was a high 2nd round pick despite all the off-field stuff. He would have gone top 15 if not for that

ya but the thing is Ptrick Johnson was even better than him...and there was NO WAY Janoris would come here with PJ in the fold...and Brandon Harris a cane lock sine he was in diapers.

the crazy part is ..we were in on TJ Bryant who chose to go to USC....liked him more than Janoris i think also.