MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

[JD08]

The only way the ACC can survive middle to long term is to keep teams in by making it worth their while, not by trying to bankrupt them if they try to leave.

 

[Jonnyblaze]

They have more revenue. Their game experience is pitiful.

So, financially, yes. But what else? They don't win. They have no rivalries. They don't recruit. The point of being a sports fan is not to have your athletic department with a healthy balance sheet. It's to win, have fun tailgates and keep up with your teams.

I grew up in md, a big terps fan, and their home football games now are sad. Nothing but OSU, Penn state, Michigan etc fans. Basketball is a bit better but it's not like the old Duke, UVA and UNC rivalries.

For a lot of the lesser schools financial stability IS the goal. Despite an occasional 9 win season here and there programs like Rutgers and Maryland have never won in football and never will. They fully understand that. They also understand that being in the Big Ten allows them to fund a lot of things beyond football.

 

[Yoyo423]

For a lot of the lesser schools financial stability IS the goal. Despite an occasional 9 win season here and there programs like Rutgers and Maryland have never won in football and never will. They fully understand that. They also understand that being in the Big Ten allows them to fund a lot of things beyond football.

same reason we joined the ACC 20+ years ago...

 

[Rickd]

Supposedly changes to the GOR for 2031 are being discussed in order to get FSU and Clemson to agree to drop/settle their lawsuits. I believe the ACC feels pretty confident that they would prevail, but guessing they probably think it is not worth the risk that they wouldn't.

From everything "commented" on ... it was first and foremost an attempt at a negotiated settlement and nobody is certain if the two sides (ACC and FSU / Clemson ... other ACC members) have reached a final determination but it has been alluded to by several different media individuals that part of the AGREEMENT, in addition to the supposed formula(s) on unequal pay distribution, is a significant reduction in exit fee for schools leaving for the P2 in the next round of P2 media contracts. It has been also "reported" that the ACC has already identified and vetted the 4-6 schools that they would backfill the ACC with at that time (USF and Memphis being two).

 

[Shogungts]

From everything "commented" on ... it was first and foremost an attempt at a negotiated settlement and nobody is certain if the two sides (ACC and FSU / Clemson ... other ACC members) have reached a final determination but it has been alluded to by several different media individuals that part of the AGREEMENT, in addition to the supposed formula(s) on unequal pay distribution, is a significant reduction in exit fee for schools leaving for the P2 in the next round of P2 media contracts. It has been also "reported" that the ACC has already identified and vetted the 4-6 schools that they would backfill the ACC with at that time (USF and Memphis being two).

Yeah - I hadn't heard the backfill schools, but did hear about the GOR stuff from Ross Dellinger who is one of the most plugged in college football analysts for the behind the scenes stuff.

 

[CaneinBroward]

The only way the ACC can survive middle to long term is to keep teams in by making it worth their while, not by trying to bankrupt them if they try to leave.

That is if the ACC can even make it worth their while to begin with. And if they can make it worth their while, will they be bankrupting the mid to lower tier schools to do it?

These next 5 years will be interesting to watch for the ACC survivability as well as the power given to the P2 by the now group of 8. Personally, would love to see a little spine shown by the ACC, Big XII, and the rest of the group of 8. Although, I think the ACC is officially in the bag though as I'm sure ESPN continued the ACC TV deal with ACC's assurance they won't stand in the way of any changes to the playoff that the P2 wants. We'll see.

 

[JD08]

That is if the ACC can even make it worth their while to begin with. And if they can make it worth their while, will they be bankrupting the mid to lower tier schools to do it?

These next 5 years will be interesting to watch for the ACC survivability as well as the power given to the P2 by the now group of 8. Personally, would love to see a little spine shown by the ACC, Big XII, and the rest of the group of 8. Although, I think the ACC is officially in the bag though as I'm sure ESPN continued the ACC TV deal with ACC's assurance they won't stand in the way of any changes to the playoff that the P2 wants. We'll see.

ESPN is viewed as the 800 lb gorilla, but the Big 10 is doing just fine without them. ESPN went for quantity, CBS/Fox went for quality.

I suspect a lot will depend on the Big 10' contract more than any other.

 

[NorthernVirginiaCane]

That is if the ACC can even make it worth their while to begin with. And if they can make it worth their while, will they be bankrupting the mid to lower tier schools to do it?

These next 5 years will be interesting to watch for the ACC survivability as well as the power given to the P2 by the now group of 8. Personally, would love to see a little spine shown by the ACC, Big XII, and the rest of the group of 8. Although, I think the ACC is officially in the bag though as I'm sure ESPN continued the ACC TV deal with ACC's assurance they won't stand in the way of any changes to the playoff that the P2 wants. We'll see.

The money for the brands will be new revenue, the ****** programs won't take less.

And the GOR isn't up in 2030 or '31. That makes no sense. They are better off going to trial.

 

[CaneinBroward]

The money for the brands will be new revenue, the ****** programs won't take less.

And the GOR isn't up in 2030 or '31. That makes no sense. They are better off going to trial.

What new revenue? ESPN is increasing the payout to the ACC? I thought it was just agreeing to keep the existing agreement active through 2036.

And yes, I was just going on the assumption that FSU and Clemson agreed to play nice in exchange for a relaxed GOR in 2031 as is being speculated on here. If not, yes, keep the trial going.