MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

[sedlst11]

Why don’t you read the thread and you’ll find the answer to your own question instead of yapping.

Guess will see us in the SEC then huh is that your prediction?

 

[Canesrule230]

The ACC/Big XII merger seems inevitable down the road

Call me crazy but this feels like a heck of a conference to watch both in football and basketball.

1. Miami
2. FSU
3. Clemson
4. UNC
5. Louisville
6. GT
7. VA Tech
8. One of the Arizona schools
9. Baylor/TT/Houston/TCU/SMU
10. WVU
11. Utah
12. Oklahoma State
13. Kansas
14. Colorado
15. Cincinnati
16. Iowa State

Gets you a ton of markets, some of the basketball bluebloods, and in my opinion some very intriguing potential football matchups that would draw significant tv coverage.

I would gladly trade playing Duke/Syracuse/WF/Stanford for WVU/Utah/Oklahoma State/Colorado. It's a pipe dream but it would be a fun league.

 

[Rickd]

Call me crazy but this feels like a heck of a conference to watch both in football and basketball.

1. Miami
2. FSU
3. Clemson
4. UNC
5. Louisville
6. GT
7. VA Tech
8. One of the Arizona schools
9. Baylor/TT/Houston/TCU/SMU
10. WVU
11. Utah
12. Oklahoma State
13. Kansas
14. Colorado
15. Cincinnati
16. Iowa State

Gets you a ton of markets, some of the basketball bluebloods, and in my opinion some very intriguing potential football matchups that would draw significant tv coverage.

I would gladly trade playing Duke/Syracuse/WF/Stanford for WVU/Utah/Oklahoma State/Colorado. It's a pipe dream but it would be a fun league.

Problem is it will be games exclusively in streaming apps and '0' on ESPN, ABC, CBS, FOX national broadcasts.

 

[CaneinBroward]

They shot their SHOT… we join them (along with UNC) in the lawsuit, we had a SHOT for real leverage pushing up against the deadline… instead we left the only chance we HAD to pwn the RIVALS. Now there’s no leverage and we are STUCK for this decade in this crap conference

Real leverage pushing up against the deadline? Does Miami or UNC have any evidence to provide that is different from what FSU and Clemson have provided already? Or are you just hoping there is? My guess is the latter.

 

[ssvir]

He has changed his story so many times it's hard to keep up ... and now he is claiming "to have been right all along ... the only one"??? What happened to "FSU to the Big 10 ... a lock ... approved by FOX and by the presidents ... regardless of AAU".

I've been around this thread so long I remember the days you used to worship at the Genetics altar.

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

When analyzing energy options—coal, nuclear, solar, wind, and others—there are several key criteria to evaluate: safety, efficiency, sustainability, and environmental impact. These factors help determine the overall viability of an energy source for meeting the world’s growing energy demands while minimizing harm to the planet and human health. Below is a detailed analysis of the different options.

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Safety​

Coal mining and burning have serious safety concerns. Mining can be dangerous, with risks of cave-ins, exposure to hazardous chemicals, and black lung disease among miners. Burning coal produces harmful particulate matter, which contributes to air pollution and respiratory problems. Furthermore, the storage and management of coal waste (such as ash) can lead to toxic spills, harming local ecosystems.

Efficiency​

Coal is relatively efficient in terms of energy output per unit of fuel, but it has high operational costs, especially when factoring in the need for pollution control and carbon capture. It is less efficient than natural gas, but historically, it has been a cheaper option for electricity generation due to low fuel costs.

Sustainability​

Coal is not a sustainable energy source. It is a finite fossil fuel, and its extraction causes long-term environmental degradation. The carbon emissions from coal combustion are among the highest of any energy source, significantly contributing to climate change.

Environmental Impact​

Coal has the highest environmental impact of any energy source. It emits large amounts of carbon dioxide (CO2), sulfur dioxide (SO2), nitrogen oxides (NOx), and particulate matter, which all contribute to air pollution, acid rain, and climate change. Additionally, coal mining leads to habitat destruction, water contamination, and significant land degradation.

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Safety​

Nuclear power is one of the safest sources of energy in terms of direct fatalities, but it is fraught with risks related to accidents and radiation exposure. High-profile accidents such as Chernobyl and ***ushima have heightened concerns about nuclear safety. However, modern reactor designs have significantly improved safety features, making the likelihood of a catastrophic event much lower than in the past.

Efficiency​

Nuclear power plants are highly efficient in terms of energy output. A small amount of nuclear fuel can produce a large amount of energy, and nuclear reactors have high capacity factors (the ratio of actual output to maximum possible output). This makes nuclear a reliable source of base-load power.

Sustainability​

Nuclear power is considered a low-carbon energy source. It does not produce carbon emissions during operation, making it more sustainable than fossil fuels. However, nuclear energy is not fully sustainable due to the limited supply of uranium and the challenges associated with waste disposal and reactor decommissioning. Additionally, nuclear waste remains hazardous for thousands of years.

Environmental Impact​

The environmental impact of nuclear power is relatively low during operation, with no air pollution or greenhouse gas emissions. However, the mining of uranium, the risk of radioactive contamination from accidents, and the long-term storage of nuclear waste present significant environmental concerns. The construction of nuclear plants also requires large amounts of concrete and steel, which contributes to carbon emissions.

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Safety​

Solar power is one of the safest energy sources available. There are no major risks related to safety during its operation, aside from the possibility of electrical hazards during installation or maintenance. Solar panels and systems generally have a low risk of accidents and have a proven track record of being safe for consumers and workers.

Efficiency​

While solar energy technology has improved significantly over the past few decades, its efficiency remains lower compared to fossil fuels and nuclear. Typical solar panels have an efficiency range of 15-22%, meaning they convert a fraction of the sunlight into usable electricity. Solar power generation is also intermittent, requiring energy storage systems or backup generation for times when sunlight is not available.

Sustainability​

Solar energy is highly sustainable, as the sun’s energy is virtually limitless and renewable. Solar panels have a relatively low environmental impact in terms of resources needed to produce them. However, manufacturing solar panels involves mining and the use of rare materials like silicon and lithium, which can have an environmental footprint. Solar power systems also have a lifespan of about 25-30 years, after which recycling becomes important.

Environmental Impact​

Solar power has a very low environmental impact compared to fossil fuels. It generates no emissions or air pollution during operation. However, the production of solar panels does involve some energy use and emissions, particularly during the mining of raw materials and manufacturing processes. Despite this, solar is still one of the most environmentally friendly options available.

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Safety​

Wind energy is also a very safe energy source. Wind turbines pose minimal safety risks, though there have been some concerns over turbine failure, as well as safety during installation and maintenance. The primary risks are associated with high-altitude work, but wind energy generally has a strong safety record.

Efficiency​

Wind turbines are generally less efficient than nuclear and coal plants in terms of energy density, but they are highly efficient at converting wind energy into electricity. Wind energy is also intermittent, which means it requires energy storage or supplementary generation (e.g., from natural gas or battery storage) to ensure a reliable power supply.

Sustainability​

Wind energy is extremely sustainable. It harnesses the natural power of wind, which is abundant and renewable. Wind turbines have long lifespans (20-25 years), and their environmental footprint during operation is minimal. However, turbine production does require the mining of materials like steel and rare earth metals, which has some environmental impact.

Environmental Impact​

Wind energy has very low environmental impact in terms of air pollution and greenhouse gas emissions. However, wind farms can impact local wildlife, particularly bird and bat populations, although technological advancements are minimizing these risks. Additionally, the visual impact and the space required for large wind farms can raise aesthetic concerns.

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Safety​

Natural gas is generally considered a safe energy source, but it does carry the risk of explosions, leaks, and fire hazards, especially during extraction and transport. Methane leaks can contribute to environmental and health hazards.

Efficiency​

Natural gas is highly efficient in converting fuel into electricity, often more so than coal. Combined-cycle gas turbines (CCGT) can reach efficiencies above 60%, making it one of the most efficient fossil fuels. Natural gas plants are also flexible, able to adjust quickly to fluctuations in energy demand.

Sustainability​

While natural gas is a fossil fuel, it emits significantly less CO2 than coal and oil. However, it is still not a sustainable option in the long term, as it is finite and contributes to climate change through greenhouse gas emissions.

Environmental Impact​

Natural gas has a lower environmental impact compared to coal, but it still contributes to climate change. Methane leaks during extraction and transportation are a concern, as methane is a potent greenhouse gas. However, natural gas is cleaner than coal in terms of particulate matter, sulfur dioxide, and nitrogen oxides.

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Conclusion:​

• Safety: Solar and wind energy are the safest, with minimal operational hazards. Nuclear, while safe in terms of direct fatalities, involves greater risks in the event of an accident.
• Efficiency: Nuclear and natural gas are the most efficient in terms of energy density, but solar and wind have much lower efficiency, though advances in storage may help mitigate this.
• Sustainability: Solar and wind are the most sustainable, being renewable and abundant, with no fuel costs and minimal environmental impact. Nuclear is sustainable but has issues with waste and uranium supply. Coal and natural gas are not sustainable long-term.
• Environmental Impact: Solar and wind have the least environmental impact. Nuclear has low emissions during operation but faces long-term waste management issues. Coal and natural gas have significant environmental drawbacks, especially in terms of emissions.

Overall, from a safety, sustainability, and environmental perspective, solar and wind energy are the most attractive options for the future, especially when coupled with energy storage technologies. Nuclear can play a key role in providing reliable base-load power, but concerns about waste and safety still need to be addressed. Coal is the least favorable option due to its high emissions and environmental damage, while natural gas, though cleaner than coal, still contributes to climate change.

 

[NorthernVirginiaCane]

They have more revenue. Their game experience is pitiful.

Joining the BiG was Maryland’s and Rutgers’ best organizational decision ever.

So, financially, yes. But what else? They don't win. They have no rivalries. They don't recruit. The point of being a sports fan is not to have your athletic department with a healthy balance sheet. It's to win, have fun tailgates and keep up with your teams.

I grew up in md, a big terps fan, and their home football games now are sad. Nothing but OSU, Penn state, Michigan etc fans. Basketball is a bit better but it's not like the old Duke, UVA and UNC rivalries.

 

[Ispyin]

Call me crazy but this feels like a heck of a conference to watch both in football and basketball.

1. Miami
2. FSU
3. Clemson
4. UNC
5. Louisville
6. GT
7. VA Tech
8. One of the Arizona schools
9. Baylor/TT/Houston/TCU/SMU
10. WVU
11. Utah
12. Oklahoma State
13. Kansas
14. Colorado
15. Cincinnati
16. Iowa State

Gets you a ton of markets, some of the basketball bluebloods, and in my opinion some very intriguing potential football matchups that would draw significant tv coverage.

I would gladly trade playing Duke/Syracuse/WF/Stanford for WVU/Utah/Oklahoma State/Colorado. It's a pipe dream but it would be a fun league.

It’s a terrible conference if you want to compete for national titles as none of the schools in the big 12 other than Colorado and only with Deion Sanders involved draws enough ratings to close the gap in the ACC media deal with the Big Ten and the SEC and that is just a straight out fact, so you’re always gonna be at a deficit. It’s not sustainable.

 

[TheEye]

The ACC/Big XII merger seems inevitable down the road

Then we should definitely reduce the buyout.

 

[grover]

Then we should definitely reduce the buyout.

Donno on Locked on Canes mentioned that the GOR is up for renegotiation in 2031 which coincides with the last year of the BiG and SEC media contracts. Unless something fundamentally changes, Miami, Clemson and FSU are in the ACC at least until then. That sounds like a plausible outcome to me, unless someone cares to offer a more likely scenario?

In the meantime, we definitely need to have a conference rev share based on viewership and other performance metrics, not the even splits we're getting. And we need to fight like **** to get more primetime games showcased, as well as keep the SEC/BiG from claiming 8 of 12 playoff spots. Our polling participants have to start doing what they do and ranking ACC schools high up in the preseason polls and throughout the season to offset their inflated SoS ratings.

 

[dycane]

take the best 16 programs not in SEC/B10 and do a deal with Amazon.

 

[TheEye]

Donno on Locked on Canes mentioned that the GOR is up for renegotiation in 2031 which coincides with the last year of the BiG and SEC media contracts. Unless something fundamentally changes, Miami, Clemson and FSU are in the ACC at least until then. That sounds like a plausible outcome to me, unless someone cares to offer a more likely scenario?

In the meantime, we definitely need to have a conference rev share based on viewership and other performance metrics, not the even splits we're getting. And we need to fight like **** to get more primetime games showcased, as well as keep the SEC/BiG from claiming 8 of 12 playoff spots. Our polling participants have to start doing what they do and ranking ACC schools high up in the preseason polls and throughout the season to offset their inflated SoS ratings.

You are speaking reality and I think that is what will play out. I was responding to the ACC/b12 combo of which a conference that huge should be way less restrictive with schools wanting to bolt.

 

[NorthernVirginiaCane]

Donno on Locked on Canes mentioned that the GOR is up for renegotiation in 2031 which coincides with the last year of the BiG and SEC media contracts. Unless something fundamentally changes, Miami, Clemson and FSU are in the ACC at least until then. That sounds like a plausible outcome to me, unless someone cares to offer a more likely scenario?

In the meantime, we definitely need to have a conference rev share based on viewership and other performance metrics, not the even splits we're getting. And we need to fight like **** to get more primetime games showcased, as well as keep the SEC/BiG from claiming 8 of 12 playoff spots. Our polling participants have to start doing what they do and ranking ACC schools high up in the preseason polls and throughout the season to offset their inflated SoS ratings.

I seriously doubt the GOR is up for "renegotiation" in 2031. Why would the acc possibly agree to that?

Let's see what the new deal is when it leaks.