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MEGA Conference Realignment and lawsuits Megathread: Stories, Tales, Lies, and Exaggerations

Rellyrell said:
So the SEC is not a fit, but the B1G is based upon that criteria u just listed? Lol

1. Out of the Top 25 largest stadiums in the country, 10 belong in the B1G including the top 3, & 11 belong in the $EC.

2. Vanderbilt has a student body of 13k, Miami has a student body of 19k

3. Vandy is not TN’s flagship school, that’s UTenn. Miss St is not MS’s flagship school, that’s Ole Miss. Texas A&M is not TX’s flagship school, that’s UT.

What I would like is honesty, not bull **** on this board. The reason y the notion is that The B1G is a better fit is b/c of the perceived upfront $$. It’s the same b.s argument in the Adidas thread, which is y I said this fanbase has myopic views that’s cannot see the big picture.

If the SEC wanted us, that would be the best spot. Geographically it makes the most sense. From a pure athletic standpoint it makes the most sense. From a recruiting standpoint it makes the most sense.

I literally can hear the excuses now if we went to the B1G: “The B1G hates us; they’re scheduling us to play Iowa in November in Iowa.” “Why are we traveling to Los Angeles then we have to travel to Maryland?? The team is jet lagged.”
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The best comparison for us has always been USC. And they just moved to the B1G. Where will Notre Dame go if they enter a conference? That is also a very good comparison. Vanderbilt doesn't come close to matching us in football or media ratings. If USC and ND are in B1G, that is the conference that fits us best.
 

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Empirical Cane said:
@DrNovaCane

From a "military perspective" assuming Miami remains relevant...

- SEC would be foolish to allow B1G to establish beachhead on their Southern Flank
- B1G would be foolish not to continue to encircle SEC by taking Miami + Georgia Tech and establishing a strong position on SEC's Southwestern (e.g. Texas) flank
Both B1G/SEC would be foolish not to establish strongholds in mid-Atlantic markets (e.g. North Carolina/Virgina)

More pressure on B1G expansion than SEC due to demo growth is South.

Assuming Empy's Super Conference doesn't happen*:

- If I'm B1G Commish, I'm taking UNC + somebody in Virginia + Miami + Georgia Tech + poach aTm/SMU/TCU
- If I'm SEC Commish, I'm taking UNC + somebody in Virginia + Miami + poach someone in Southwest US

If you aren't sitting at the table, you are on the menu.

If I'm BXII + ACC, I'm merging yesterday and putting Yormark in charge.


*of course it will happen
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Empirical love the analogy and I can't say you don't make a good point...

The uncertainty is the biggest unpleasantry. What we see today will be different tomorrow and having a seat at the table is paramount but I do believe we have to be very strategic about which table to sit at.
 
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Is this “smoke” hinting at UNC making behind the scenes moves to leave the ACC? “A proposed North Carolina bill, the “Restoring Rivalries Act” (house bill 469) would mandate that UNC and NC State play each other annually in football, basketball, baseball and softball , regardless of conference affiliation”.
 
Empirical Cane said:
@DrNovaCane

From a "military perspective" assuming Miami remains relevant...

- SEC would be foolish to allow B1G to establish beachhead on their Southern Flank
- B1G would be foolish not to continue to encircle SEC by taking Miami + Georgia Tech and establishing a strong position on SEC's Southwestern (e.g. Texas) flank
Both B1G/SEC would be foolish not to establish strongholds in mid-Atlantic markets (e.g. North Carolina/Virgina)

More pressure on B1G expansion than SEC due to demo growth is South.

Assuming Empy's Super Conference doesn't happen*:

- If I'm B1G Commish, I'm taking UNC + somebody in Virginia + Miami + Georgia Tech + poach aTm/SMU/TCU
- If I'm SEC Commish, I'm taking UNC + somebody in Virginia + Miami + poach someone in Southwest US

If you aren't sitting at the table, you are on the menu.

If I'm BXII + ACC, I'm merging yesterday and putting Yormark in charge.


*of course it will happen
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I agree with all your points, even the asterisked suggestion it might not happen (probably because of existing SEC and BiG schools playing politics like when TAMU tried to block UTX from entering the SEC).

OT, but that's probably why Miami let things play out rather than fight the ACC conference like FSU and Clemson. Miami needed to delay as long as possible so Mario could improve the product and we could better make our case. That's why I personally think we're going to spend whatever it takes to improve the team in the portal. Because securing a playoff spot this year is worth a lot more than just this year's revenue and bragging rights.
 
Rickd said:
Is this “smoke” hinting at UNC making behind the scenes moves to leave the ACC? “A proposed North Carolina bill, the “Restoring Rivalries Act” (house bill 469) would mandate that UNC and NC State play each other annually in football, basketball, baseball and softball , regardless of conference affiliation”.
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They aren’t the only ones making moves.
 
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grover said:
I agree with all your points, even the asterisked suggestion it might not happen (probably because of existing SEC and BiG schools playing politics like when TAMU tried to block UTX from entering the SEC).

OT, but that's probably why Miami let things play out rather than fight the ACC conference like FSU and Clemson. Miami needed to delay as long as possible so Mario could improve the product and we could better make our case. That's why I personally think we're going to spend whatever it takes to improve the team in the portal. Because securing a playoff spot this year is worth a lot more than just this year's revenue and bragging rights.
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I believe Miami, Northwestern, USC, SMU, Vanderbilt, etc. of this world need to ask themselves today the following questions:

1. Is particpation in "elite/super league" football +/or basketball critical to our university?
2. IF answer is YES to #1, then what are we going to do today and tomorrow(s) to position ourselves into 2030-2035 to secure our spot?

It appears Miami is at least a strong lean towards #1.
 
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Empirical Cane said:
I believe Miami, Northwestern, USC, SMU, Vanderbilt, etc. of this world need to ask themselves today the following questions:

1. Is particpation in "elite/super league" football +/or basketball critical to our university?
2. IF answer is YES to #1, then what are we going to do today and tomorrow(s) to position ourselves into 2030-2035 to secure our spot?

It appears Miami is at least a strong lean towards #1.
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Would not be at all surprised in at least a couple (maybe a few) schools move prior to this timeline ... maybe as early as 26-27. There is now a defined exit cost with media rights. Networks just have to be convinced the $$ is there for added games in a conference and they can then make it happen. Seems like FSU + Clemson + UNC are all very active "behind the scenes". Is Miami? Who is carrying the ball for Miami? Certainly not Rad. Mas Brothers?
 
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JD08 said:
Nonsense, posters here are very understanding when people are wrong. They give affirmation that they still have value as an individual and help them see it as a growth experience.
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I support Self high fives and victory laps for everyone!!!
 
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