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Duke had 4 receptions for 77 yards the whole year. He caught a pass and broke it for a big gain in the first game of the year. My question is, is this a result of Morris not being a smart QB or is it the offense that Coley runs. I know the season is over, and someone probably brought this up before. But I really want to know what in the **** happened.
 
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Good question. Bad coaching is my quess.

Not getting the ball into dukes hands in the open field is just ridiculous
 
Morris rarely looked for check downs I don't think. First read and throw it, if he didn't panic and leave the pocket too early.
 
I've watched basically all of the FlashForwards for this years games on Youtube, and I can recall maybe two or three screens for the RBs.

Coley didn't an absolutely terrible job of getting our RBs involved in the passing game regardless of Morris' refusal to use the check down.
 
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Massive concern that our backs and TE's are not targeted more in this offense.

EDIT: for the record although the party line was "we are running Fisch's offense" I saw very few of Fischs concepts run by Coley. In fact I'd be very surprised if anything was kept from Fisch aside from some terminology.

Where are the a-b gap counters that Fisch used to run in goalline situations? What happened to the trick plays? I'm a traditionalist when it comes to offense but I like a trick play thrown in for the big games. (remember Duke throwing a TD? and barely missing on another?) It keeps opposing coaches off balance. Fisch's screens were a thing of beauty! Remember the shotgun misdirectrion that we consistently ran under Fisch? (Duke Johnson 54yd TD vs BC)

2012 under Fisch our RB's accounted for 24% of our caught balls (Duke had 27 catches as a frosh). Rb's under Coley accounted for only 13% with Duke only having 4 catches on the entire season. That is a significant drop off and tells me that Coley needs to fix this.

I like Coley BTW, but he's not fully developed as an OC and not nearly creative enough.
 
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We didn't run many screens but Morris' inability to focus on anyone but the primary receiver may be a factor here but his inability to throw touch passes probably limited coley from wanting to call too many. Morris' typical laser pass has to be caught cleanly or either a turnover or duke being lit up would've been the typically result
 
If ESPN took a moment from slurping the SEC they might realize that one of their thousand college football shows might benefit from having a Jaws like analyst to breakdown QB play. Sure, it's sometimes tiresome on the NFL level but I think it'd actually be more intersting on the college level and I'd like to have had Morris broken down a few times. Then I'd smash all of my tv's after watching the analysis of the lowlights of late in that Dook game and probably would say this was a bad idea.
 
Cane Dynasty said:
Massive concern that our backs and TE's are not targeted more in this offense.
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Pretty sure Ryan Williams as starter will force this. Something I'd have been happy to see even if we had an upper echelon QB. I still don't believe our TE's the last handful of years have been that bad to deserve such little use.
 
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One of my favorite Fisch plays of was that RB wheel route which was money. We need to bring back that play. Also Duke or Yearby would be amazing backs with screen plays but we really struggled setting up the blocking on those plays last year. Both Kehoe and Coley need to prepare the team better for that play. But Morris also did **** up one or two of those screens with inaccurate passes as well.
 
Cane Dynasty said:
Massive concern that our backs and TE's are not targeted more in this offense.

EDIT: for the record although the party line was "we are running Fisch's offense" I saw very few of Fischs concepts run by Coley. In fact I'd be very surprised if anything was kept from Fisch aside from some terminology.

Where are the a-b gap counters that Fisch used to run in goalline situations? What happened to the trick plays? I'm a traditionalist when it comes to offense but I like a trick play thrown in for the big games. (remember Duke throwing a TD? and barely missing on another?) It keeps opposing coaches off balance. Fisch's screens were a thing of beauty! Remember the shotgun misdirectrion that we consistently ran under Fisch? (Duke Johnson 54yd TD vs BC)

2012 under Fisch our RB's accounted for 24% of our caught balls (Duke had 27 catches as a frosh). Rb's under Coley accounted for only 13% with Duke only having 4 catches on the entire season. That is a significant drop off and tells me that Coley needs to fix this.

I like Coley BTW, but he's not fully developed as an OC and not nearly creative enough.
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money post
 
Duke can be a Marshall Faulk type player when healthy... He should see more passes his way... I don't think an emphasis was placed on the backs and tight ends enough... Duke on the outside is unstoppable...
 
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I almost hate even referencing it, but I wonder if they'll ever run some Wildcat type stuff with Malik Rosier down the line? That's really the only utilization of a dual threat QB that I can see Coley going to. Being tall seemingly trumps any mobility in this offense.
 
I just want to point out something to the guys who immediately blame Morris for never checking down or never making a read, or whatever other excuses you want. While Morris had many flaws exposed this year, this one is 100% on the change in OC. Lets use some facts instead of opinions.

Last year with Morris as qb under Fisch, Morris had 57 completions between Mike James and Duke (30 James, 27 Duke, and another 7 for hagens and Clements). This year under Coley, there were 24 total receptions by rbs (20 crawford 4 Duke). Duke's or Mike James's receptions alone under Fisch were more than our total this year.

This is not Morris not making the read, this is Coley not calling the play. Coley loves the deep ball and outside hitch routes it seems to me and the occasional WR screen.
 
sszoeboy said:
Duke had 4 receptions for 77 yards the whole year. He caught a pass and broke it for a big gain in the first game of the year. My question is, is this a result of Morris not being a smart QB or is it the offense that Coley runs. I know the season is over, and someone probably brought this up before. But I really want to know what in the **** happened.
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Seemed like every time Duke had to chip a pass rusher before heading out to the flat and would get his bell rung.
He would go low and take a knee to the dome.

I'd love to see Duke running wheels but I'd make sure he doesn't go for DE's knees.
Seemed like opposing teams were purposely going for his head after the 1st concussion.
 
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Doubtful its on Morris. See the 2012 numbers of James and Duke. Disappeared in 2013. Good news is that it's obvious. I am sure they are aware of the absence and will attempt to correct it.
 
rudebuddha said:
sszoeboy said:
Duke had 4 receptions for 77 yards the whole year. He caught a pass and broke it for a big gain in the first game of the year. My question is, is this a result of Morris not being a smart QB or is it the offense that Coley runs. I know the season is over, and someone probably brought this up before. But I really want to know what in the **** happened.
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Seemed like every time Duke had to chip a pass rusher before heading out to the flat and would get his bell rung.
He would go low and take a knee to the dome.

I'd love to see Duke running wheels but I'd make sure he doesn't go for DE's knees.
Seemed like opposing teams were purposely going for his head after the 1st concussion.
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+10000
He was pass blocking a lot...
 
I don't think it's neither a concern or a fluke. Just different circumstances that led to different strategies.
2012 was Morris's first year as a starter and the WR core was a question mark heading into the season.
These to factors would lead a OC to call more passes to RB's out of the back field.
Plus in 2013 we were more balanced which took away passes which some would have went to the RB's.
I'd be more concerned had the passing game overall went down because of the lack of passes to the RB's but it didn't. It was actually slightly better.
As for 2014, I'd prefer passes going more to our playmaking WR's like Coley, Dorsett and Waters, and let Duke handle the rushing with some occasional screen passes.
 
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