Coley hire can't be overstated

[Port Knox]

 

[Ukcanes1]

How much experience did Chud have calling plays before he took the keys to the 2001 Maybach? How did our offense do that year?

As for the spread worries, did you guys forget all the shotgun 3 WR sets and horizontal passes we threw last year? That's a spread we ran most of the time last year. Remember how Hagans wasn't on the field for the majority of our offensive plays last season? Spread.

I don't think it's simply spreading them out that has some worried. It's going predominately from a shotgun spread where pounding the rock isn't a priority.

Miami has never "pounded the rock" as their predominant offensive strategy in the post-(Lou)Saban era. Ever.

 

[LuCane]

How much experience did Chud have calling plays before he took the keys to the 2001 Maybach? How did our offense do that year?

As for the spread worries, did you guys forget all the shotgun 3 WR sets and horizontal passes we threw last year? That's a spread we ran most of the time last year. Remember how Hagans wasn't on the field for the majority of our offensive plays last season? Spread.

I don't think it's simply spreading them out that has some worried. It's going predominately from a shotgun spread where pounding the rock isn't a priority.

Pounding the rock wasn't a priority for Fisch, and everyone has busted out the anointing oils for him turning him into Bill Walsh, Jr.

If Coley repeats what Fisch did, I'll be equally as skeptical. For all the flash and dash, I want an offense that can reliably perform against the toughest defenses and in the toughest circumstances. The redzone was a microcosm of Fisch's playcalling issues.

 

[bg534]

Fisch was great, great, great for the passing game. Our running backs seemed to perform very well under him, and whether or not we would have utilized the running game a little bit more if we had a better defense is unknown. He was very good here. The fact that we are getting offensive coordinators who are moving on up to the NFL speaks volumes about where this program is headed. That said, the timing of the announcement makes him a giant douche. It all worked out for us, however, as we snagged FSU's offensive coordinator and best remaining recruiter (and all the relationships he built, and talent evals he has made that come with him), it all appears to have worked out for us in the end.


Coley has a record that indicates he likes to pound the rock and run a balanced offense, which might work very well for us down the stretch. In year two of Coley, we will likely be breaking in a redshirt freshman quarterback, with Duke Johnson, Alex Collins, and hopefully Dalvin Cook and Sony Michel in the backfield. Ability to properly utilize the running game to hide potential deficiencies as a result of our inexperience will be critical in 2014, the year we envision this team really coming together on all fronts and approaching MNC levels of talent again.

 

[eleganttomcat]

ferman made a retarded thread on his stupid website and here was my response.. this ones for you Peter

Gary- i feel like if anyone here winds the rumor mill when given the opportunity, it is you..youre reporting recently has kind of been dead and irrelevant. your percentages are groundless and misrepresentative and your overall demeanor is weak. step it up gary, people here spend their hard earned income paying for this site when they could keep their money and spend it on other, more important things, whilst subscribing to a free hurricanes website that is run by a kid that is less than half your age (born in the mid 1990's....wow) and much, much more informed. it isnt eve close how much more reliable and exciting the other forums are than this, and they are FREE.


i'm simply posting this to try to light a fire under your *** because, quite frankly, it needs to happen.

 

[UMJer026]

I always though the promise of what Fisch could become was a little better than what he actually was.

Don't get me wrong, I had great hopes for where our offense was progressing, but last year, it wasn't where I thought it could have been.

That said, the guy obviously has a ton of upside and a bright future, so I'd rather have kept him for another year or so.

 

[The Franchise]

Is that a shot of Jimbutt practicing tossing Al GolDon's salad?

 

[LuCane]

I always though the promise of what Fisch could become was a little better than what he actually was.

Don't get me wrong, I had great hopes for where our offense was progressing, but last year, it wasn't where I thought it could have been.

That said, the guy obviously has a ton of upside and a bright future, so I'd rather have kept him for another year or so.

All of this. I'm going to copy and paste this every time Fisch's name comes up.

 

[LuCane]

Fisch was great, great, great for the passing game. Our running backs seemed to perform very well under him, and whether or not we would have utilized the running game a little bit more if we had a better defense is unknown. He was very good here. The fact that we are getting offensive coordinators who are moving on up to the NFL speaks volumes about where this program is headed. That said, the timing of the announcement makes him a giant douche. It all worked out for us, however, as we snagged FSU's offensive coordinator and best remaining recruiter (and all the relationships he built, and talent evals he has made that come with him), it all appears to have worked out for us in the end.


Coley has a record that indicates he likes to pound the rock and run a balanced offense, which might work very well for us down the stretch. In year two of Coley, we will likely be breaking in a redshirt freshman quarterback, with Duke Johnson, Alex Collins, and hopefully Dalvin Cook and Sony Michel in the backfield. Ability to properly utilize the running game to hide potential deficiencies as a result of our inexperience will be critical in 2014, the year we envision this team really coming together on all fronts and approaching MNC levels of talent again.

I'm not necessarily challenging you on this, but I'm curious where you're pulling it from. I readily admit I have nothing on the guy. If you can inform us, it'd be helpful. Where is his history of pounding the rock? Beyond that, is it FSU/Jimbo-like pounding the rock? Is it an edge system? Are we going to suck in short yardage? What's the foundation of his offense?

 

[JHallCanes]

I always though the promise of what Fisch could become was a little better than what he actually was.

Don't get me wrong, I had great hopes for where our offense was progressing, but last year, it wasn't where I thought it could have been.

That said, the guy obviously has a ton of upside and a bright future, so I'd rather have kept him for another year or so.

All of this. I'm going to copy and paste this every time Fisch's name comes up.

Yup, it's exactly what I have been saying as well.

I know people get all ****** whenever I say this, but our talent on offense wasn't that great last year, outside of Duke. A young solid, but unspectacular group of WR's and Duke and a few decent RB's. Also a QB that has talent but is still a ways off.

What Fisch did was a mirage at times. I would have expected a pretty healthy jump in efficiency this year if Fisch had stuck around and we added guys like Sandland, Coley, and Collins.

The talent will be more polished this year but only time will tell how we use that/

 

[Port Knox]

Is that a shot of Jimbutt practicing tossing Al GolDon's salad?

Couldn't figure out if he is throwing up the U, or counting how many coahes he's lost.

 

[The Franchise]

Is that a shot of Jimbutt practicing tossing Al GolDon's salad?

Couldn't figure out if he is throwing up the U, or counting how many coahes he's lost.

Looks to me like he's got a hand on each of Al's butt cheeks and he's ready to dive in for some salad tossing. But I'm admittedly out there when it comes to the Rorschach imagery stuff.

 

[Ethnicsands]

How much experience did Chud have calling plays before he took the keys to the 2001 Maybach? How did our offense do that year?

As for the spread worries, did you guys forget all the shotgun 3 WR sets and horizontal passes we threw last year? That's a spread we ran most of the time last year. Remember how Hagans wasn't on the field for the majority of our offensive plays last season? Spread.

I don't think it's simply spreading them out that has some worried. It's going predominately from a shotgun spread where pounding the rock isn't a priority.

Pounding the rock wasn't a priority for Fisch, and everyone has busted out the anointing oils for him turning him into Bill Walsh, Jr.

If Coley repeats what Fisch did, I'll be equally as skeptical. For all the flash and dash, I want an offense that can reliably perform against the toughest defenses and in the toughest circumstances. The redzone was a microcosm of Fisch's playcalling issues.

This. This. This.

 

[JHallCanes]

How much experience did Chud have calling plays before he took the keys to the 2001 Maybach? How did our offense do that year?

As for the spread worries, did you guys forget all the shotgun 3 WR sets and horizontal passes we threw last year? That's a spread we ran most of the time last year. Remember how Hagans wasn't on the field for the majority of our offensive plays last season? Spread.

I don't think it's simply spreading them out that has some worried. It's going predominately from a shotgun spread where pounding the rock isn't a priority.

Pounding the rock wasn't a priority for Fisch, and everyone has busted out the anointing oils for him turning him into Bill Walsh, Jr.

If Coley repeats what Fisch did, I'll be equally as skeptical. For all the flash and dash, I want an offense that can reliably perform against the toughest defenses and in the toughest circumstances. The redzone was a microcosm of Fisch's playcalling issues.

This. This. This.

Just to add to you guys, but ball control against well balanced teams is paramount. KSU, ND, FSU all had good defenses but offenses that were plenty capable as well (to varying degrees).

Not that you guys didnt know that already but just to add to the point.

 

[AlGolden'sTie]

I thought Fisch always did a good job moving the ball from the 20 to the 20, but he was an absolute disaster in the redzone, and cost us wins (the KSU game last year stands out) with his redzone calls. His offense was also extremely streaky, it would get hot for 1-2 quarters, then **** the bed for 2-3 quarters. Never consistent, unless we were playing Duke. We aren't replacing a legend IMO

 

[Ethnicsands]

I don't think it's simply spreading them out that has some worried. It's going predominately from a shotgun spread where pounding the rock isn't a priority.

Pounding the rock wasn't a priority for Fisch, and everyone has busted out the anointing oils for him turning him into Bill Walsh, Jr.

If Coley repeats what Fisch did, I'll be equally as skeptical. For all the flash and dash, I want an offense that can reliably perform against the toughest defenses and in the toughest circumstances. The redzone was a microcosm of Fisch's playcalling issues.

This. This. This.

Just to add to you guys, but ball control against well balanced teams is paramount. KSU, ND, FSU all had good defenses but offenses that were plenty capable as well (to varying degrees).

Not that you guys didnt know that already but just to add to the point.

When talent meets talent, physicality and ball control wins.

 

[Boston_Cane]

How much experience did Chud have calling plays before he took the keys to the 2001 Maybach? How did our offense do that year?

As for the spread worries, did you guys forget all the shotgun 3 WR sets and horizontal passes we threw last year? That's a spread we ran most of the time last year. Remember how Hagans wasn't on the field for the majority of our offensive plays last season? Spread.

3 WR sets and horizontal passes makes me think West Coast offense more than spread. What worries me when I think spread offense is 5 receiver sets, empty backfield, trying to run 90 plays a game, back-up QB holding flashcards with pictures of a pizza, a flower, **** Vitale's head and an iphone, 7-on-7 style of football that would make my father turn over in his grave. I'd rather stop watching football entirely than root for a team running the option or the spread.

 

[The Franchise]

How much experience did Chud have calling plays before he took the keys to the 2001 Maybach? How did our offense do that year?

As for the spread worries, did you guys forget all the shotgun 3 WR sets and horizontal passes we threw last year? That's a spread we ran most of the time last year. Remember how Hagans wasn't on the field for the majority of our offensive plays last season? Spread.

3 WR sets and horizontal passes makes me think West Coast offense more than spread. What worries me when I think spread offense is 5 receiver sets, empty backfield, trying to run 90 plays a game, back-up QB holding flashcards with pictures of a pizza, a flower, **** Vitale's head and an iphone, 7-on-7 style of football that would make my father turn over in his grave. I'd rather stop watching football entirely than root for a team running the option or the spread.

You're talking about the Air Raid. There are multiple versions of a "spread" offense. New England has employed a spread with Brady. And we ran a spread with Fisch last year.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

I'm curious to see what targets Golden is having Coley actively recruit. I haven't seen any reports from recruits that they've talked to Coley since the hire. Pete.....have you heard from any 13 recruits that they've talked to him since the hire?

I wonder if Golden is having him specifically target 2014 kids, with the risk of Coley sounding like a hypocrite with the 2013 recruits. I'm sure he's available to talk to the 2013 kids, but I wonder if he's actively recruiting.

Freet said in a tweet that he is "out recruiting" and that is why they aren't having a presser but that seems a bit odd to me. Maybe Coley didn't want to face a bunch of questions about why he left FSU for Miami out of respect for his alma mater.

Thoughts?

 

[drifters1234]

Fisch was great, great, great for the passing game. Our running backs seemed to perform very well under him, and whether or not we would have utilized the running game a little bit more if we had a better defense is unknown. He was very good here. The fact that we are getting offensive coordinators who are moving on up to the NFL speaks volumes about where this program is headed. That said, the timing of the announcement makes him a giant douche. It all worked out for us, however, as we snagged FSU's offensive coordinator and best remaining recruiter (and all the relationships he built, and talent evals he has made that come with him), it all appears to have worked out for us in the end.


Coley has a record that indicates he likes to pound the rock and run a balanced offense, which might work very well for us down the stretch. In year two of Coley, we will likely be breaking in a redshirt freshman quarterback, with Duke Johnson, Alex Collins, and hopefully Dalvin Cook and Sony Michel in the backfield. Ability to properly utilize the running game to hide potential deficiencies as a result of our inexperience will be critical in 2014, the year we envision this team really coming together on all fronts and approaching MNC levels of talent again.

Nothing about the hire makes fisch a douche. He earned a great opportunity and deserves credit, not ridicule. The douche would be the college coordinator who turns down a promotion to an NFL coordinator slot because of the perceived impact the timing would theoretically have on recruiting.