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I'm not complaining about losing a tiny linebacker who had a serious injury.
 
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bacane said:
So, the kid publicly tells the world he's de-committed and essentially thrown more fuel on the fire - and yet he's starting or on an official visit? Does this make any sense? What am I missing?
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Our defensive coordinator just left for head coaching job. If he isn’t signing early he needs to postpone the trip so he can see who the new DC is.
 
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g8rh8rMD said:
It's all we've been trying to say bro. This is bad and getting worse. Might as well get to that acceptance stage and get numb to it. False hope = nothing but pain.
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If you think about it, consistently getting a bowl game and signing a top 40 class is better than most schools expect... ya know?
 
CaneFan954 said:
Channing Crowder was jst telling a story of his recruitment on WQAM right now.
He was committed to UF until Spurrier left for the NFL job in D.C.
He immediately decommitted and committed to UGA.
When UF brought Zook on, Zook told Crowder, "Just give me an official visit" to try to change his mind.
Channing declined Zook's offer.
Then Zook poached Charlie Strong from Lou Holtz South Carolina staff.
Strong had been recruiting Crowder for USCe.
Crowder said he was committed to UGA for 2 weeks.
As soon as Zook brought Strong to UF, Crowder recommitted to UF.

His point was basically, Miami might be able to stem the decommitment tide by hiring a new DC that recruits are familiar with really soon.

I wonder who would be a Charlie Strong-like hire for Miami right now. By that I mean someone who is already recruiting the same guys we are and might be able to keep guys committed and bring back guys who decommitted.

The most important quality is obviously competency in teach and calling the defense, but recruiting impact, especially this late in the game, is very important as well.
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Same school Trob. But he is built like willie good recruiter hasn’t proven himself to be a good coordinator yet. I was young so I can’t remember how established as a coordinator Charlie strong was at SC.
 
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Stefan Adams said:
2019 Miami Northwestern linebacker Samuel Brooks decommitted from the Canes after the Manny Diaz departure news became official late last night.



The 6-2, 195-pounder is currently a 3-star in the national rankings. According to the 247Sports Composite, Brooks is the #723 player nationally, #45 OLB in the country, and the #97 player in the Sunshine State. His decommitment moves Miami’s 2019 class ranking down to #30 on 247Sports and #37 on Rivals.


The Background

Brooks had been committed to Miami since March and seemed like a true Hurricane. He said the only place he ever dreamed of playing college football was at Miami. In the middle of a superstar junior campaign for Northwestern leading the county in sacks and TFL, Brooks suffered a devastating knee injury that had people questioning whether he’d ever play football again. Miami was one of the few FBS teams that stuck by him after many backed off, and UM planned to honor his scholarship regardless. As such, Brooks was one of UM’s most solid commits in this class throughout, but the departure of both his coordinator and position coach Manny Diaz to Temple gave him pause, and he decided to open things up to make sure he was making the right decision.


Future of the Class

Brooks' decommitment brings the total class numbers down to 14, and leaves Miami with two linebacker commits. St. Thomas 4-star teammates Anthony Solomon and Avery Huff remain in Surge19 at LB, but Solomon already has one foot out the door and is expected to flip to Michigan next week. Huff told CIS yesterday that although he wanted to play for Diaz, he is still strong with Miami.

The Canes thought they were done at LB for 2019 and completely stopped recruiting the position after Huff pledged back in May. However, at this point, UM will likely only land one of the original trio in Huff and it leaves them scrambling to fill the empty spots.

Plant City 3-star LB James Gordon IV is a Minnesota commit and has been the staff’s preferred choice to take Solomon’s spot ever since he started wavering. Miami offered Gordon a few weeks back and have been working overtime to get him to officially visit during one of the final weeks, sending coaches multiple times for in-home visits with Gordon and his family. As of now, it appears those efforts have gone for naught, as Gordon does not plan to visit on the final weekend before signing day. Since he is expected to sign early, it seems like Gordon is not likely to end up in this class as of now.

The third STA linebacker of the bunch is 3-star Jahmar Brown, who Miami has had their eye for over a year. The Canes originally would not take his commitment back in May, so Brown ended up pledging to South Carolina. Miami reached out to Brown yet again to gauge interest when Solomon started wavering last month, but did not give him a firm offer. With Brooks now gone, Miami has pushed for Brown to make a last minute visit this weekend, so we’ll see if he shows up on campus. If he doesn’t, Brown is expected to sign with South Carolina next week.

While they wait on the others to decide, Miami has been slow playing Rockledge 3-star Octavious Brothers. Brothers has received multiple in-home visits from the staff the past few weeks but has not actually landed an offer as of yet. Brothers has seen Syracuse and UNC on official visits in the past month. Since he is not signing early, Brothers could become an option down the line if Miami misses on the Gordon and Brown.

Lastly, Brooks is not completely out of the picture just yet though, as he is still considering Miami and is making his UM official visit this weekend. However, recommits are rare in recruiting, and UM should recruit with the mindset that he won’t be in this class so as to not be left hanging; if he is, then it’s a bonus.
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g8rh8rMD said:
No, I didn't read Ivins. Fair enough for UM to be displeased, but there is no way we're getting him to re-commit this weekend, short of announcing the hire of Aranda or Venables by COB today. Point stands that we didn't drop him, he dropped us, and for good reason. We're not getting him back unless and until we can convince him that he's going to be playing under a coaching staff that will suit his skills and advance his career.

My point was, it's not as simple as "if we want him". Not even close.
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To each their own...My point is, Sam Brooks has as been all UM all along, and I think can be won back over if we want him (which I believe UM obviously does). Agree to disagree.
 
Umbra said:
If you think about it, consistently getting a bowl game and signing a top 40 class is better than most schools expect... ya know?
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Dude, you serious? I mean, yeah, I rather be above ground than 6 feet under. The U isn't about bowl streaks and being in the top 40. It's about one thing. Rings. The day we stop chasing that, we may as well cease to exist. Life is not about going through the motions, man.

The University of Miami is nothing like "most schools".

To who much is given, much is demanded. We don't tell Einstein or Picasso it's ok to just be like most people. That would be a tremendous waste of their gifts and a shame for all of humanity. The same goes for certain football programs like UM and USC. Those programs are gifted with very special advantages, it is a crime against football when they waste them.
 
skeeter said:
To each their own...My point is, Sam Brooks has as been all UM all along, and I think can be won back over if we want him (which I believe UM obviously does). Agree to disagree.
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There's no agreeing to disagree on this one. I completely agree we can still get him back if we hire the right DC and it's a fit for Brooks. You said we could get Brooks back by this weekend. That ain't happening. That's all I'm saying bro.
 
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BloodEunsOrangeAndGreen said:
Same school Trob. But he is built like willie good recruiter hasn’t proven himself to be a good coordinator yet. I was young so I can’t remember how established as a coordinator Charlie strong was at SC.
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Charlie Strong was the DC at South Carolina for 3yrs before taking the UF job. South Carolina was his 1st DC job. So he wasn't brand new but hadn't been a coordinator for a million years either.

TRob has been the DC for South Carolina since 2016 so this was his 3rd year there just like Strong.
 
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Cribby said:
Oh we had many a debate with the knuckleheads about this
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We kept telling them, it doesn't matter how loaded a cycle is. Other schools see that to and start plucking kids out of the area. Always assume that you're going to miss out on half of your targets or miss your desired numbers. We didn't do that, and we could be looking at an absolute mess at LB depth next season.

It's an annual CIS tradition though - "Bro, X year is loaded at Y position next cycle!"
 
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AHURT12 said:
I'm not complaining about losing a tiny linebacker who had a serious injury.
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Say that now and then in 2-3 years because we didn't get enough LB's you'll be posting that we have no depth. You got to get kids who will develop into the program. Never know how development happens.
 
Will Sam brooks become small, injury prone, can’t play in space, have no loyalty now that he decomotted
 
CaneFan954 said:
Channing Crowder was jst telling a story of his recruitment on WQAM right now.
He was committed to UF until Spurrier left for the NFL job in D.C.
He immediately decommitted and committed to UGA.
When UF brought Zook on, Zook told Crowder, "Just give me an official visit" to try to change his mind.
Channing declined Zook's offer.
Then Zook poached Charlie Strong from Lou Holtz South Carolina staff.
Strong had been recruiting Crowder for USCe.
Crowder said he was committed to UGA for 2 weeks.
As soon as Zook brought Strong to UF, Crowder recommitted to UF.

His point was basically, Miami might be able to stem the decommitment tide by hiring a new DC that recruits are familiar with really soon.

I wonder who would be a Charlie Strong-like hire for Miami right now. By that I mean someone who is already recruiting the same guys we are and might be able to keep guys committed and bring back guys who decommitted.

The most important quality is obviously competency in teach and calling the defense, but recruiting impact, especially this late in the game, is very important as well.
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If you know how Um does things...we wont have a dc until January some time...they are likely in no rush and would do interviews at the coaches convention and after a bunch of top coaches are poached
 
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