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HurricanesR1 said:
Not a fan of the DB class

Antoine is hurt
Ewald is average
Fitzgerald doesn’t like physicality
Wallace is hurt
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Admittedly I don't follow recruiting closely anymore, but - and I don't mean to pick on you - but I feel like the board is acting like these DBs got diphtheria on the Oregon Trail.

Wallace said he was playing in the All-American game in an article from 11/27. So while compound leg fractures can be disastrous it sounds like he was lucky.

What was Antoine's injury?

Feel like downgrading the DB class on account they suffered injuries in high school - in the 21st century - isn't the best analysis. Were Wallace and Antoine good takes before their injuries? If yes, then I assume they are still good takes
 
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We got some good players, but overall this class is a borderline disaster. No elite WRs like Mario kept preaching, OT 2 longshot projects, DT 1 undersized kid, Safety is an utter cluster ****, and CB is bad to ok. Considering Mario's big talk on WRs this cycle and the atrocious defense we played, this class is BAD in filling needs
 
I may have been generous with my WR grade. It’s a solid group, but we still lack that true game changer. You’d think after showing off the #1 offense in the country we’d have our pick of the litter at that position.
 
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flips said:
Admittedly I don't follow recruiting closely anymore, but - and I don't mean to pick on you - but I feel like the board is acting like these DBs got diphtheria on the Oregon Trail.

Wallace said he was playing in the All-American game in an article from 11/27. So while compound leg fractures can be disastrous it sounds like he was lucky.

What was Antoine's injury?

Feel like downgrading the DB class on account they suffered injuries in high school - in the 21st century - isn't the best analysis. Were Wallace and Antoine good takes before their injuries? If yes, then I assume they are still good takes
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I guess it's just the fact that we didn't land any elite DBs and half of what we got are currently hurt - so we're hoping they bounce back from those injuries.
 
The strength of a recruiting class comes down to:

- Number of Top 100 signees
- How you fare at the premium positions
- Average rating per recruit

We only signed one Top 100 recruit, a center ranked 96th overall in the composite. Four programs (Texas, Bama, UGA, Oregon) hit or exceeded the 300-point mark this year, signed at least four 5* recruits at premium positions, AND signed at least seven Top 100 recruits. The team rounding out the Top 5 (OSU) signed two 5* recruits at premium positions and seven Top 100 players. We're nowhere close to recruiting at an elite level as a program.

The premium positions that command the most money are QB, WR, OT, DL, and CB. We also had a glaring need at safety. Nickel is a solid get at QB. The WR class is solid but unspectacular and we once again failed to land a premier WR1. We did great on the interior of the OL, but the OT haul is highly suspect. Lowe and Scroggins are great gets at edge, but the DT class is clearly lacking. Antoine is the only CB we signed who looks different than the types of corners we've landed for many years. We completely struck out at safety.

The one metric that's a positive for this class is average rating per recruit. What makes this class look reminiscent of the types of classes signed by previous coaches who failed here, though, is that we struck out on Top 100 players and loaded up on low 4*'s that inflate our blue-chip ratio. Historically there's a world of difference between a low 4* and a high 4* in terms of hit rate.

We need to absolutely crush it in the portal with headliners at premium positions. Hope it works out for us.
 
Mario said Wallace would be ready for spring and he’s heeled incredibly well. That’s a good sign. I don’t know if Antione is gonna e healthy but if he is he’s a man to man ace that has been needed for years
 
What I’m reading is, get a decent QB in the portal and offense is still good and defense sucks again?? Wash and repeat?
 
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Dwinstitles said:
Need a recruiter for the secondary cause it feels like we still don’t have one
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If you mean talent! Yet to be determined, but we have bodies to throw at the problem and 3 or 4 guys from Previous classes haven't played yet.
Mack, Stafford,Thomas, day..etc
 
Gables Canes said:
I may have been generous with my WR grade. It’s a solid group, but we still lack that true game changer. You’d think after showing off the #1 offense in the country we’d have our pick of the litter at that position.
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The guy most responsible for making it the #1 offense is gone, baby, gone. Recruits are generally smart enough to know that.
 
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Gables Canes said:
I may have been generous with my WR grade. It’s a solid group, but we still lack that true game changer. You’d think after showing off the #1 offense in the country we’d have our pick of the litter at that position.
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True but not having a QB in place can also hamper that effort.
 
01Canes said:
The strength of a recruiting class comes down to:

- Number of Top 100 signees
- How you fare at the premium positions
- Average rating per recruit

We only signed one Top 100 recruit, a center ranked 96th overall in the composite. Four programs (Texas, Bama, UGA, Oregon) hit or exceeded the 300-point mark this year, signed at least four 5* recruits at premium positions, AND signed at least seven Top 100 recruits. The team rounding out the Top 5 (OSU) signed two 5* recruits at premium positions and seven Top 100 players. We're nowhere close to recruiting at an elite level as a program.

The premium positions that command the most money are QB, WR, OT, DL, and CB. We also had a glaring need at safety. Nickel is a solid get at QB. The WR class is solid but unspectacular and we once again failed to land a premier WR1. We did great on the interior of the OL, but the OT haul is highly suspect. Lowe and Scroggins are great gets at edge, but the DT class is clearly lacking. Antoine is the only CB we signed who looks different than the types of corners we've landed for many years. We completely struck out at safety.

The one metric that's a positive for this class is average rating per recruit. What makes this class look reminiscent of the types of classes signed by previous coaches who failed here, though, is that we struck out on Top 100 players and loaded up on low 4*'s that inflate our blue-chip ratio. Historically there's a world of difference between a low 4* and a high 4* in terms of hit rate.

We need to absolutely crush it in the portal with headliners at premium positions. Hope it works out for us.
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We signed two top 100 players, not one. You’re forgetting the defensive end from California.
 
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TrumpyCane not sure why people expected a massive recruiting hall just because we were 10-2, we won 12 games the 2 years before and you expect recruits to think "Oh they're going to continue to be good"

This is why the 2025 season is very important for Mario, 1 reason being the 2026 class is loaded, tons of high ranking guys, and if we do well it'll show some continued success, can't win 7-8 games.

Also why did we expect high ranking WRs to sign here because of 1 good offensive season with a QB who won't be here next year? If Cam was a sophomore TrumpyCane could guarantee some of these WR we were after would come here
 
NicKane said:
We signed two top 100 players, not one. You’re forgetting the defensive end from California.
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I meant Top 100 in the 247 composite, where Lowe is ranked at 145. He’s a Top 50 overall player in 247’s rankings, but not the composite.

Lowe is arguably the best player in the class and I like him a lot regardless of where the recruiting services have him rated. But it’s true that we only landed one Top 100 player in the composite.
 
Where would pur guys sign if they didnt sign with Miami?

QB-Luke Nickel-FSU. He committed so early and locked in, but had offers from Brohm and Lousiville and plenty others.

RB-Pringle-Alabama/UF

WR-Moore-UF
WR-Upshaw-Auburn
WR-Toney-Oregon, UF, Alabama?

TE-Schott-Ohio State/Notre Dame
TE-Gilbert-Penn State

OL-SJ-Michigan
OL-Buchanon-Clemson/FSU
OL-Wilkerson-Syracuse
OL-Campbell-Rutgers

DE-Hayden Lowe-Southern Cal
DE-Herbert Scroggins-Auburn
DT-Donta Simpson-Maryland
DT-Mycah Newton-N.C. State

LB-Ezekial Marcelin-Louisville
LB-Kellen Wiley-Texas

CB-Jaboree Antoine-LSU
CB-Chris Ewald-UGA

S-Amari Wallace-Louisville
S-Bryce Fitzgerald-UF/LSU/FSU
 
TrumpyCane said:
TrumpyCane not sure why people expected a massive recruiting hall just because we were 10-2, we won 12 games the 2 years before and you expect recruits to think "Oh they're going to continue to be good"

This is why the 2025 season is very important for Mario, 1 reason being the 2026 class is loaded, tons of high ranking guys, and if we do well it'll show some continued success, can't win 7-8 games.

Also why did we expect high ranking WRs to sign here because of 1 good offensive season with a QB who won't be here next year? If Cam was a sophomore TrumpyCane could guarantee some of these WR we were after would come here
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Dmoney mentioned it yesterday and when you think about it, he's exactly right. It was clear our success this season was not going to have much of an impact on this 25 class. It's a general consensus around the country that the prospects in the 26 class are significantly better than this years. This will be the biggest portal window yet and if we can land impact guys in this portal class, none of this matters. Also, people on here need to stop crying and realize there is talent in this 25 class.
 
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