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HurricaneinLA said:
This is a parcial list that keeps growing from back for the UM glory days to today. Always comparing and fact checking with these PAC ten and Texas guys out here in LA on who has or had the fastest teams or high school track times and got to out fact them. Florida has had the fastest sprinters over all since the Bob Hayes days to today.

UM used to have so many fast players on the team at one time and a lot of them ran on the track team together back in the 80s and the 2000s champion year teams. Maybe some of you south Florida track guys and coaches can dig up some old times or new times and add to it or correct it. Hard to find 80s and 90s times. Put up some 40 times last week on this post or the Harrel post of some 4.25 times but not sure how accurate they were.

The 100 times are usually more accurate advanced set up electronic track competition times and are just more accurate than the 40 mostly stop watch times unless they have electronic UM pro days or NFL combine times. Not sure how a accurate the pro day times are but the players are probably a lot more relaxed and have faster times on their home fields vs the extreme pressure at the combine. Track times start at the sound of the start signal or gun to the laser and football some forty times are laser to laser. Laser to laser would be faster than sound reaction to laser.

Miami track 100- 200 meter times
1. Robert Thomas 10.06 04/11/87 Track only 20.79
2. Raheem Chambers 10.09 04/10/19 Track only 20.97
2. Myles Valentine 10.27 05/25/18 Track only
4. Isaiah Taylor 10.37 04/07/18 Track only
1. Davian Clarke 200 meter 20.66 05/04/97 Track only

Miami football track times.

Chris Johnson 10.25 20.40
Tyler Harell 10.37 20.83 4.24
Travis Benjamin 10.40 4.31 4.36 NFL comb
Devin Hester 10.42 4.41 NFL comb
Horrace Copeland 10.42 4.3 forty
Terrell Walden 10.43
Tony Gaiter 10.44 21.15 1995
Daryl Jones 10.45
Sam Shields 10.47 4.30 40 4.25 UM Pro day.
Darnell Jenkins 10.47
Sinorice Moss 10.50 4.38
Tanard Davis 10.51
Philip Dorsett 10.51 21.26 4.33 NFL Comb. 4.25 UM Pro day
‘Travarous Bain 10.52
Mark Pope 10.53 21.53
Shane Brown 10.55
Lamar Miller 10.56 21.50 HS
Phillip Buchanon 10.5 4.31
Andre Johson 10.59 6’3” 229
Duke Johnson 10.62 22.31 4.54
Clinton Portis 10.6 4.42 NFL Comb
James Stewert 10.64 HS 215 pounds
Roscoe Parrish 10.65 21.13
DeMarcus Van Dyke 10.61 4.28 NFL comb.
Akeem Jolla 10.66
Santana Moss 10.70 4.31
Brandon McGee 10.73
Kelly Jennings 10.76
Don Chaney 10.77
Sean Taylor 10.77 6'3" 230 pounds
Malick Curtis 10.81
Artie Burns 10.95 4.46 NFL comb
Frank Ladson Jr. 10.96
Will Mallory 10.99
Chris Graves 11.01
Ja' Dais Richard 11.02
Davenport, Najeh 11.02 6’1” 250 pounds
Henry Parrish 11.09
55 METERS
1. Randal Hill 6.21 03/02/90
2. Carlos Jones 6.29 02/18/95
3. Robert Thomas 6.34 02/15/87
4. Tanard Davis 6.36 01/18/03
5. Roscoe Parrish 6.38 01/18/03
60 METERS
3. Travis Benjamin 6.70 01/29/11
4. Santana Moss 6.72 02/05/00
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Not listed in here is Torrey Mitchell. Signed with us in the late 90s and played fall ball in august. Went back home to Texas before the season started iirc. I had the fortune of watching some of those practices and I watched him easily run stride for stride with Santana (a senior, iirc). Kid ran a 10.1-10.2 in HS and was regarded as the fastest HSer in the country.

Like other former canes, he left this world much too early.

@TheSwagger1
 
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AUcane said:
Not listed in here is Torrey Mitchell. Signed with us in the late 90s and played fall ball in august. Went back home to Texas before the season started iirc. I had the fortune of watching some of those practices and I watched him easily run stride for stride with Santana (a senior, iirc). Kid ran a 10.1-10.2 in HS and was regarded as the fastest HSer in the country.

Like other former canes, he left this world much too early.

@TheSwagger1
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Yes I remember that guy and the tragedy that happened to him. Was disapointed that he did not play like so many other great players that singed with the U and then ended up somewhere else. Shady McCoy and some really QBs that bailed out as well.
 
HurricaneinLA said:
This is a parcial list that keeps growing from back for the UM glory days to today. Always comparing and fact checking with these PAC ten and Texas guys out here in LA on who has or had the fastest teams or high school track times and got to out fact them. Florida has had the fastest sprinters over all since the Bob Hayes days to today.

UM used to have so many fast players on the team at one time and a lot of them ran on the track team together back in the 80s and the 2000s champion year teams. Maybe some of you south Florida track guys and coaches can dig up some old times or new times and add to it or correct it. Hard to find 80s and 90s times. Put up some 40 times last week on this post or the Harrel post of some 4.25 times but not sure how accurate they were.

The 100 times are usually more accurate advanced set up electronic track competition times and are just more accurate than the 40 mostly stop watch times unless they have electronic UM pro days or NFL combine times. Not sure how a accurate the pro day times are but the players are probably a lot more relaxed and have faster times on their home fields vs the extreme pressure at the combine. Track times start at the sound of the start signal or gun to the laser and football some forty times are laser to laser. Laser to laser would be faster than sound reaction to laser.

Miami track 100- 200 meter times
1. Robert Thomas 10.06 04/11/87 Track only 20.79
2. Raheem Chambers 10.09 04/10/19 Track only 20.97
2. Myles Valentine 10.27 05/25/18 Track only
4. Isaiah Taylor 10.37 04/07/18 Track only
1. Davian Clarke 200 meter 20.66 05/04/97 Track only

Miami football track times.

Chris Johnson 10.25 20.40
Tyler Harell 10.37 20.83 4.24
Travis Benjamin 10.40 4.31 4.36 NFL comb
Devin Hester 10.42 4.41 NFL comb
Horrace Copeland 10.42 4.3 forty
Terrell Walden 10.43
Tony Gaiter 10.44 21.15 1995
Daryl Jones 10.45
Sam Shields 10.47 4.30 40 4.25 UM Pro day.
Darnell Jenkins 10.47
Sinorice Moss 10.50 4.38
Tanard Davis 10.51
Philip Dorsett 10.51 21.26 4.33 NFL Comb. 4.25 UM Pro day
‘Travarous Bain 10.52
Mark Pope 10.53 21.53
Shane Brown 10.55
Lamar Miller 10.56 21.50 HS
Phillip Buchanon 10.5 4.31
Andre Johson 10.59 6’3” 229
Duke Johnson 10.62 22.31 4.54
Clinton Portis 10.6 4.42 NFL Comb
James Stewert 10.64 HS 215 pounds
Roscoe Parrish 10.65 21.13
DeMarcus Van Dyke 10.61 4.28 NFL comb.
Akeem Jolla 10.66
Santana Moss 10.70 4.31
Brandon McGee 10.73
Kelly Jennings 10.76
Don Chaney 10.77
Sean Taylor 10.77 6'3" 230 pounds
Malick Curtis 10.81
Artie Burns 10.95 4.46 NFL comb
Frank Ladson Jr. 10.96
Will Mallory 10.99
Chris Graves 11.01
Ja' Dais Richard 11.02
Davenport, Najeh 11.02 6’1” 250 pounds
Henry Parrish 11.09
55 METERS
1. Randal Hill 6.21 03/02/90
2. Carlos Jones 6.29 02/18/95
3. Robert Thomas 6.34 02/15/87
4. Tanard Davis 6.36 01/18/03
5. Roscoe Parrish 6.38 01/18/03
60 METERS
3. Travis Benjamin 6.70 01/29/11
4. Santana Moss 6.72 02/05/00
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Thanks for ur hard work & time put in to look all of this up. Go Canes
 
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HurricaneinLA said:
This is a parcial list that keeps growing from back for the UM glory days to today. Always comparing and fact checking with these PAC ten and Texas guys out here in LA on who has or had the fastest teams or high school track times and got to out fact them. Florida has had the fastest sprinters over all since the Bob Hayes days to today.

UM used to have so many fast players on the team at one time and a lot of them ran on the track team together back in the 80s and the 2000s champion year teams. Maybe some of you south Florida track guys and coaches can dig up some old times or new times and add to it or correct it. Hard to find 80s and 90s times. Put up some 40 times last week on this post or the Harrel post of some 4.25 times but not sure how accurate they were.

The 100 times are usually more accurate advanced set up electronic track competition times and are just more accurate than the 40 mostly stop watch times unless they have electronic UM pro days or NFL combine times. Not sure how a accurate the pro day times are but the players are probably a lot more relaxed and have faster times on their home fields vs the extreme pressure at the combine. Track times start at the sound of the start signal or gun to the laser and football some forty times are laser to laser. Laser to laser would be faster than sound reaction to laser.

Miami track 100- 200 meter times
1. Robert Thomas 10.06 04/11/87 Track only 20.79
2. Raheem Chambers 10.09 04/10/19 Track only 20.97
2. Myles Valentine 10.27 05/25/18 Track only
4. Isaiah Taylor 10.37 04/07/18 Track only
1. Davian Clarke 200 meter 20.66 05/04/97 Track only

Miami football track times.

Chris Johnson 10.25 20.40
Tyler Harell 10.37 20.83 4.24
Travis Benjamin 10.40 4.31 4.36 NFL comb
Devin Hester 10.42 4.41 NFL comb
Horrace Copeland 10.42 4.3 forty
Terrell Walden 10.43
Tony Gaiter 10.44 21.15 1995
Daryl Jones 10.45
Sam Shields 10.47 4.30 40 4.25 UM Pro day.
Darnell Jenkins 10.47
Sinorice Moss 10.50 4.38
Tanard Davis 10.51
Philip Dorsett 10.51 21.26 4.33 NFL Comb. 4.25 UM Pro day
‘Travarous Bain 10.52
Mark Pope 10.53 21.53
Shane Brown 10.55
Lamar Miller 10.56 21.50 HS
Phillip Buchanon 10.5 4.31
Andre Johson 10.59 6’3” 229
Duke Johnson 10.62 22.31 4.54
Clinton Portis 10.6 4.42 NFL Comb
James Stewert 10.64 HS 215 pounds
Roscoe Parrish 10.65 21.13
DeMarcus Van Dyke 10.61 4.28 NFL comb.
Akeem Jolla 10.66
Santana Moss 10.70 4.31
Brandon McGee 10.73
Kelly Jennings 10.76
Don Chaney 10.77
Sean Taylor 10.77 6'3" 230 pounds
Malick Curtis 10.81
Artie Burns 10.95 4.46 NFL comb
Frank Ladson Jr. 10.96
Will Mallory 10.99
Chris Graves 11.01
Ja' Dais Richard 11.02
Davenport, Najeh 11.02 6’1” 250 pounds
Henry Parrish 11.09
55 METERS
1. Randal Hill 6.21 03/02/90
2. Carlos Jones 6.29 02/18/95
3. Robert Thomas 6.34 02/15/87
4. Tanard Davis 6.36 01/18/03
5. Roscoe Parrish 6.38 01/18/03
60 METERS
3. Travis Benjamin 6.70 01/29/11
4. Santana Moss 6.72 02/05/00
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Not taking anything away from CJ and Harrell, they’re obviously blazingly fast. But do you think the prior athletes would have bern faster with the training and gear we have today? I read that the shoe tech has shaved off a couple tenths of a second. Is that true?
 
grover said:
Not taking anything away from CJ and Harrell, they’re obviously blazingly fast. But do you think the prior athletes would have bern faster with the training and gear we have today? I read that the shoe tech has shaved off a couple tenths of a second. Is that true?
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Objectively, there is no question about this.

We see faster and faster 40s every year. It's because training methods, nutritional knowledge, equipment is next level compared to where it was 10-20 years ago.
 
grover said:
Not taking anything away from CJ and Harrell, they’re obviously blazingly fast. But do you think the prior athletes would have bern faster with the training and gear we have today? I read that the shoe tech has shaved off a couple tenths of a second. Is that true?
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Yea I would say proliferation of info and training.. Even compared to 10-15 years ago with social media, you can in one minute go on youtube and see how the top athlete in respective sport trains in 4k, listen to their trainer/coach explain how and why, try it out and even reach out to them and ask questions.. IMPOSSIBLE years back..

Also the top athletes all play or train together, all know each other, etc. You could have top players in same area never interact 20 years ago. Even in same city not know about each other.. North dade athletes knew nothing about south dade back then, now they train even in middle school on travel teams, and different events.
 
HurricaneinLA said:
This is a parcial list that keeps growing from back for the UM glory days to today. Always comparing and fact checking with these PAC ten and Texas guys out here in LA on who has or had the fastest teams or high school track times and got to out fact them. Florida has had the fastest sprinters over all since the Bob Hayes days to today.

UM used to have so many fast players on the team at one time and a lot of them ran on the track team together back in the 80s and the 2000s champion year teams. Maybe some of you south Florida track guys and coaches can dig up some old times or new times and add to it or correct it. Hard to find 80s and 90s times. Put up some 40 times last week on this post or the Harrel post of some 4.25 times but not sure how accurate they were.

The 100 times are usually more accurate advanced set up electronic track competition times and are just more accurate than the 40 mostly stop watch times unless they have electronic UM pro days or NFL combine times. Not sure how a accurate the pro day times are but the players are probably a lot more relaxed and have faster times on their home fields vs the extreme pressure at the combine. Track times start at the sound of the start signal or gun to the laser and football some forty times are laser to laser. Laser to laser would be faster than sound reaction to laser.

Miami track 100- 200 meter times
1. Robert Thomas 10.06 04/11/87 Track only 20.79
2. Raheem Chambers 10.09 04/10/19 Track only 20.97
2. Myles Valentine 10.27 05/25/18 Track only
4. Isaiah Taylor 10.37 04/07/18 Track only
1. Davian Clarke 200 meter 20.66 05/04/97 Track only

Miami football track times.

Chris Johnson 10.25 20.40
Tyler Harell 10.37 20.83 4.24
Travis Benjamin 10.40 4.31 4.36 NFL comb
Devin Hester 10.42 4.41 NFL comb
Horrace Copeland 10.42 4.3 forty
Terrell Walden 10.43
Tony Gaiter 10.44 21.15 1995
Daryl Jones 10.45
Sam Shields 10.47 4.30 40 4.25 UM Pro day.
Darnell Jenkins 10.47
Sinorice Moss 10.50 4.38
Tanard Davis 10.51
Philip Dorsett 10.51 21.26 4.33 NFL Comb. 4.25 UM Pro day
‘Travarous Bain 10.52
Mark Pope 10.53 21.53
Shane Brown 10.55
Lamar Miller 10.56 21.50 HS
Phillip Buchanon 10.5 4.31
Andre Johson 10.59 6’3” 229
Duke Johnson 10.62 22.31 4.54
Clinton Portis 10.6 4.42 NFL Comb
James Stewert 10.64 HS 215 pounds
Roscoe Parrish 10.65 21.13
DeMarcus Van Dyke 10.61 4.28 NFL comb.
Akeem Jolla 10.66
Santana Moss 10.70 4.31
Brandon McGee 10.73
Kelly Jennings 10.76
Don Chaney 10.77
Sean Taylor 10.77 6'3" 230 pounds
Malick Curtis 10.81
Artie Burns 10.95 4.46 NFL comb
Frank Ladson Jr. 10.96
Will Mallory 10.99
Chris Graves 11.01
Ja' Dais Richard 11.02
Davenport, Najeh 11.02 6’1” 250 pounds
Henry Parrish 11.09
55 METERS
1. Randal Hill 6.21 03/02/90
2. Carlos Jones 6.29 02/18/95
3. Robert Thomas 6.34 02/15/87
4. Tanard Davis 6.36 01/18/03
5. Roscoe Parrish 6.38 01/18/03
60 METERS
3. Travis Benjamin 6.70 01/29/11
4. Santana Moss 6.72 02/05/00
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skyman said:
Yea I would say proliferation of info and training.. Even compared to 10-15 years ago with social media, you can in one minute go on youtube and see how the top athlete in respective sport trains in 4k, listen to their trainer/coach explain how and why, try it out and even reach out to them and ask questions.. IMPOSSIBLE years back..

Also the top athletes all play or train together, all know each other, etc. You could have top players in same area never interact 20 years ago. Even in same city not know about each other.. North dade athletes knew nothing about south dade back then, now they train even in middle school on travel teams, and different events.
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Great point on the social media aspect making these connections and the exchange of information much easier. I had not considered that aspect, but it makes a lot of sense.
 
Cane4life18 said:
I hate to be this guy buy this might need to rethink playing football. He has Olympic level speed. Kid is going to do damage on Saturdays. If he builds his contact-balance, he'll be a LaMichale James 2.0.
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Whats also scary is the kid that came in second.....

Is a kid i brought to the board and is only a freshman in hs. Hes a kid that we should recruit as well that plays football to.

Kaj Baker. My boy showed out this weekend too as a ninth grader....

Kaj is NITRO's son from MNW if you posters remember Nitro another speed football/track legend from the early 2000s
 
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No_Fly_Zone said:
Great point on the social media aspect making these connections and the exchange of information much easier. I had not considered that aspect, but it makes a lot of sense.
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Yea this being a football board it wont come up much but social media and the ripple affects touch every aspect. Quick example I remember getting back in gym like say 13 years ago, legendary lounge 2009 gym workout thread.. Anyway people start asking me what I am doing and can they come, everytime would go with a girl, she didnt want to touch the weights because she didnt want to get big like a man. In the weights section you might see one girl who probably training for an event, usually they stuck to treadmill or machines..

Fast forward now, you go to gym and these girls have full on programs going on. Squats, RDLS, deadlifts, and I have never seen a workout explode like the hip thrust. You talk to them and its intermittent fasting, keto diet, yada yada. NOBODY was doing that even 10 years ago, but with IG and them seeing fitness models doing resistance training and the results, they are like fish in water in the weights section and I know most nobody is complaining.
 
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grover said:
Not taking anything away from CJ and Harrell, they’re obviously blazingly fast. But do you think the prior athletes would have bern faster with the training and gear we have today? I read that the shoe tech has shaved off a couple tenths of a second. Is that true?
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skyman said:
Yea I would say proliferation of info and training.. Even compared to 10-15 years ago with social media, you can in one minute go on youtube and see how the top athlete in respective sport trains in 4k, listen to their trainer/coach explain how and why, try it out and even reach out to them and ask questions.. IMPOSSIBLE years back..

Also the top athletes all play or train together, all know each other, etc. You could have top players in same area never interact 20 years ago. Even in same city not know about each other.. North dade athletes knew nothing about south dade back then, now they train even in middle school on travel teams, and different events.
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skyman said:
Yea this being a football board it wont come up much but social media and the ripple affects touch every aspect. Quick example I remember getting back in gym like say 13 years ago, legendary lounge 2009 gym workout thread.. Anyway people start asking me what I am doing and can they come, everytime would go with a girl, she didnt want to touch the weights because she didnt want to get big like a man. In the weights section you might see one girl who probably training for an event, usually they stuck to treadmill or machines..

Fast forward now, you go to gym and these girls have full on programs going on. Squats, RDLS, deadlifts, and I have never seen a workout explode like the hip thrust. You talk to them and its intermittent fasting, keto diet, yada yada. NOBODY was doing that even 10 years ago, but with IG and them seeing fitness models doing resistance training and the results, they are like fish in water in the weights section and I know most nobody is complaining.
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This is absolutely true - I have been going to the same gym in a big city for about 10 years now. It's not a Planet Fitness type gym, but also not a Crossfit or similar type gym, but instead had a large amount of aerobic machines (treadmills, spin bikes, ellipticals, etc), a machine weights section and then a decent free weight section. 10 years ago there was some people using the free weights, but most were at the gym for the aerobics (spin classes were huge) and maybe some weight machines, but little by little people started shifting to free weights.

By the time COVID hit there was a decent amount of guys in the free weight section and you would often have to wait for the squat rack. There was more women using the free weights, but still a pretty small amount. The gym shutdown for COVID and then it was still a bit of time before everyone came back but now (much to my chagrin) not only is the free weight section always crowded, but there is way more women using free weights than there used to be.

The gym has been a little slow to react, but thankfully they have been swapping out some of the aerobic equipment for more squat racks and deadlift platforms which helps with the crowding, but there is no doubt more people - and especially more women - are focused on strength training. Certainly some of this is due to things like Crossfit, but I believe - to your point - that social media has played a huge role this this shift.
 
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Shogungts said:
This is absolutely true - I have been going to the same gym in a big city for about 10 years now. It's not a Planet Fitness type gym, but also not a Crossfit or similar type gym, but instead had a large amount of aerobic machines (treadmills, spin bikes, ellipticals, etc), a machine weights section and then a decent free weight section. 10 years ago there was some people using the free weights, but most were at the gym for the aerobics (spin classes were huge) and maybe some weight machines, but little by little people started shifting to free weights.

By the time COVID hit there was a decent amount of guys in the free weight section and you would often have to wait for the squat rack. There was more women using the free weights, but still a pretty small amount. The gym shutdown for COVID and then it was still a bit of time before everyone came back but now (much to my chagrin) not only is the free weight section always crowded, but there is way more women using free weights than there used to be.

The gym has been a little slow to react, but thankfully they have been swapping out some of the aerobic equipment for more squat racks and deadlift platforms which helps with the crowding, but there is no doubt more people - and especially more women - are focused on strength training. Certainly some of this is due to things like Crossfit, but I believe - to your point - that social media has played a huge role this this shift.
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Yea they will be writing and Docs about that covid era and social media in the years to come, good and bad (bad: companies having unlimited ability to create algorithms to hack peoples brains, depression spikes, etc).. I tend to go to different gyms and you see how much more packed they are and the free weights section is always now also. Very interesting times..

Seeing social media "influencers" grow huge followings (250k-1 mil+) and then sell products, knowing even at 2-5% of that purchasing will create a great life. I know a fitness influencer doing that living in penthouse selling workouts/meal plans and another who had pole studio which got shut down during covid and made her pivot, during this time, a popular music artist used her studio and her followers blew up, from there now she has 200k followers and starts selling poles at $200 a pop. After moving a couple thousand units in days, couldnt move out of garage anymore and had to get a warehouse. Do the math. Insane times.
 
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